hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

[hi19hi19]

So after doing all three scoring types I had two credits left over.
These went to qqwref for being an awesome co-host
Thanks a lot for all your help man, much appreciated. I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did!



I also sent sticklydude 35k from my own pocket for being really cool with being moved a division in the middle of the tournament.
Thanks for being such a good sport dude, this is the least I can do to show my appreciation.






Okay the main questions I wanted to ask were:

Did you actually find the PMs I sent for the start of the first few rounds useful?

-and-

Now that you see the final results, what scoring type(s) do you prefer for a tournament of this structure and difficulty?

EDIT- ALSO!
I will be finishing the pack of files used in this tournament as soon as possible.
Really I'm stuck, because I want the files to have decent graphics but I suck at making graphics. I've been learning but it's a slow process.
I'll be finishing that task up as soon as I can.
If this thread is locked before I finish, you'll be able to find the pack in the Stepmania forum when it's ready to be released!

[EzExZeRo7497]

I found it to be pretty useful. Also I prefer cumulative scoring. Better room for comeback, but it might cause a lot of unfairness to people who did really well for the first 6 rounds and then got annihilated at the last round for tournaments (Brutality-themed) like this.

All in all very nice tournament, I really love tournaments like these, non-AAA fest tourneys.

[Jake Ferguson]

Yes the PMs were helpful since I almost forgot about the tournament until I got an email saying you messaged me.

And I actually really like how you did all three types of scoring since it ended up with basically everybody getting credits which is cool.
It would've been impossible to do this if you hadn't of had the over 3,000,000 credit pot though so it's a good thing people were so generous.

Only thing bad about this way is having so much to do all at the end, unless you get the individual round scores out of the way each time a round ends.

Basically, this tournament was awesome and host another one soon

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by Jake Ferguson

Yes the PMs were helpful since I almost forgot about the tournament until I got an email saying you messaged me.

Ah, good to know!

Originally Posted by Jake Ferguson

Basically, this tournament was awesome and host another one soon

I actually have enough finished files to hold another custom tournament right now lol
But I will probably wait about 4 months for two reasons: the first is that Jae put me on the "bad boy list" for taking too long to do the credits so I can't hold another tournament for a few months until my time-out is over. Also the more practical reason is I'm busy as hell and these things take a lot of work haha. If someone else wants to run the tournament for me with my files feel free to PM me lmao, otherwise maybe this autumn


Thanks jake and Eze for the comments, anyone else feel free to chip in too! Part of the reason I did all three scoring types was an experiment so I'd really like to know what people think about that.

[reuben_tate]

I think tournament points is a good system to use, it makes it so the earlier rounds have an equal weight compared to the later rounds, since the difference in scores for the early rounds are usually so minute. Anyways, thanks for the credz, 10/10, would join again. :3

As for the reminder pm's, I usually kept up with the thread myself, but I still think they are useful anyways, especially for the people that don't keep up with tourney threads.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

About time lol. :P

[qqwref]

I think I got more credits on side games than on the actual tournament ._.

It was fun though! Great files, and good competition within the division.

[pikakirby123]

I really enjoyed this tournament. Out of the few tournaments I've done, this has definitely been my favorite. I liked all of the files (even Freefall :P ) even though at the time they were really hard for me. It was a nice mix and didn't focus too much on any one skillset. I actually went back and played all of them and supped my scores by huge amounts so it's cool to see how much my skill has changed since then. Thanks for hosting a great tournament!

Edit: The PMs were a nice reminder, especially since I forgot about Round 3... >.< Also, I think I prefer tournament points because in the later levels when difficulties really spike the difference in points can easily overwhelm any hard work you may have put in on the earlier rounds because the scores will be so different.

[icontrolyourworld]

woo! Again awesome tourney, the side games were really creative and fun too (and thanks for the credits)

[Winrar]

Thanks for (finally ;P) distributing the credits. I honestly loved the rivalry in this tournament and the songs were amazing! It gave myself and possibly others some major skillboosts.
You can count on me joining your next one <3

[noname219]

Credits	User			Division
195,000	Breakdown16		D4B (Freedom Dive)
191,500	noname219		D3B (Freedom Dive)
183,000	RadiantVibe		D2A (Freedom Dive)
182,000	FrozenAngel91		D3A (Freedom Dive)
178,000	DossarLX ODI		D5A (Freedom Dive)
176,000	EzExZeRo7497		D5B
166,833	Khenra			D1 (Freedom Dive)
154,000	Tidus810		D5D (Freedom Dive)
150,333	dvaskate		D2B (Freedom Dive)
148,500	sanzath			D4A (Freedom Dive)
140,500	Plan_Bsk81127		D5C (Freedom Dive)
105,333	Jake Ferguson		D1
102,833	TheThong		D2B
90,000	alloyus			D5B
87,500	MrPreggers		D4A
83,000	One Winged Angel	D5B
78,000	Arbliterator		D4B
75,500	sticklydude		D4A
69,500	Zakvvv666		D4B
67,333	pikakirby123		D1
65,000	Findarian		D5D
61,000	icontrolyourworld	D5C
58,502	qqwref			D4A
58,000	bballa48		D5C
58,000	megamon88		D4A
56,500	magicturbo		D3B
54,500	JJTrixX			D2A
54,000	DissonantMuse		D3A
51,000	Elite Ninja		D5D
50,000	yo man im awesome	D5C
48,500	Winrar			D2A
46,333	popsicle_3000		D2B
44,500	tofurox			D3A
44,001	justin_ator		D5C
39,000	Anaru			D5A
33,500	Zekramcross		D3B
31,500	xXOpkillerXx		D5B
30,000	CammyGoesRawr		D4B
24,000	Xx{Midnight}xX		D4B
19,000	Poison-			D4A
18,500	Ninty64			D5C
18,000	flipsta_lombax		D5D
17,000	who_cares973		D4A
16,500	Crazyjayde		D3B
13,500	krunkykai22		D5C
13,000	U.N. Owen		D5D
12,000	wildfireskunk		D2A
11,500	reuben_tate		D4B
11,500	typing like wat		D2B
11,000	devonin			D1
10,500	FFRGreen		D3B
10,500	.Gazelle.		D3A
10,000	sjoecool1991		D4A
9,500	Samwais			D2A
9,000	zegsigma		D2B
6,500	Cyth The Raccoon	D3A
6,000	Puzzler64		D1
4,000	PriestREA		D3A
2,000	JSH			D2B
2,000	Kirby615		D5D
2,000	rparty89		D1
1,500	The_Toymaker		D4A
1,500	_Zenith_		D5C
500	Trogdor!!!!		D4A
0	00Razor00		D5C
0	AlexDest		D5A
0	Checked_Out		D2B
0	Colour Stream		D2A
0	Coolboyrulez0		D5C
0	FontSize72LOL		D4A
0	Frans813		D1
0	Hateandhatred		D3A
0	Herogashix		D5C
0	hi19hi19		D5D
0	j-rodd123		D4B
0	kmay			D5D
0	musical_vampire		D1
0	noi-or-e		D2A
0	prefx			D4A
0	rayword45		D4A
0	rsr2			D3B
0	rushyrulz		D5C
0	SD_Tsugamush		D4A
0	slipknot_6969		D1
0	Sweet_Feet		D4A
0	Tarrik			D5C
0	TC_Halogen		D5A
0	TK_unreal		D5B
0	UserNameGoesHere	D2B
0	WSCB			D4A
0	x_lambourghini_x	D1
0	xVaLoRx			D3B
0	xXAll-ProXx		D5C
3,769,501	Total credits

[Khenra]

I think the PM's at the start of a round are very useful. For people participating in multiple tourneys at once, this is a great way to keep up with everything.

As for scoring types:

I think I prefer tournament points. With cumulative you can get absolutely screwed on one round (as kinda happened in D1 on Freefall), making the rest of the tourney useless.

The credits based on individual rounds is a nice addition, but should not be the main scoring type of a tourney, because it removes any suspense over multiple rounds.

I really liked this tournament, best one I've participated in ever. Props!

[EzExZeRo7497]

Originally Posted by noname219

Credits	User			Division
195,000	Breakdown16		D4B (Freedom Dive)
191,500	noname219		D3B (Freedom Dive)
183,000	RadiantVibe		D2A (Freedom Dive)
182,000	FrozenAngel91		D3A (Freedom Dive)
178,000	DossarLX ODI		D5A (Freedom Dive)
176,000	EzExZeRo7497		D5B
166,833	Khenra			D1 (Freedom Dive)
154,000	Tidus810		D5D (Freedom Dive)
150,333	dvaskate		D2B (Freedom Dive)
148,500	sanzath			D4A (Freedom Dive)
140,500	Plan_Bsk81127		D5C (Freedom Dive)

Sick combo breaker

[Zakvvv666]

Weird, says 69,500 next to my name but I got exactly 31,500 total.

[hi19hi19]

I think he was counting the credits from the first Spon Con? Those were not from the pot.

idk... I overshot which is much better than having undershot haha
I'm okay with a few extra thousand out of my own pocket, as long as it isn't the other way around.

Also yeah Eze and alloyus was pretty funny to watch. OWA and Opkiller put up really strong scores too, I actually think D5B was the closest of all the divisions!

[Zakvvv666]

Yeah I was confused at first but now thinking of the the spon-con it makes sense lol.

[who_cares973]

cool i got credits \o/

[noname219]

Originally Posted by Zakvvv666

Weird, says 69,500 next to my name but I got exactly 31,500 total.

Don't forget you got 38,000 credits from the Moskau spon con.

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

I think he was counting the credits from the first Spon Con? Those were not from the pot.

idk... I overshot which is much better than having undershot haha
I'm okay with a few extra thousand out of my own pocket, as long as it isn't the other way around.

Also yeah Eze and alloyus was pretty funny to watch. OWA and Opkiller put up really strong scores too, I actually think D5B was the closest of all the divisions!

I count every credits you send during the tournament : spon cons (You Suffer, Moskau) + side games + all three scoring types.
Also counted the 35K credits you send to sticklydude so if we remove that, you get 3,734,501 credits total (a difference by 4,501).

[sticklydude]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

I also sent sticklydude 35k from my own pocket for being really cool with being moved a division in the middle of the tournament.
Thanks for being such a good sport dude, this is the least I can do to show my appreciation.

hi19, the most generous man on the planet

Even though I finished like 5th, this was probably the best tourney I've played. (:

[popsicle_3000]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

I actually have enough finished files to hold another custom tournament right now lol

You're a machine!!!

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

I'm on the "bad boy list"

LOL
and i think that it'd be better to just do one scoring type in the future. You're right though, it's tough when it's the beginning rounds and you're fighting for a 20 point difference, and then drop 500 on the last song...