Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

[Wayward Vagabond]

There's nothing that can make judging not a chore.

[lurker]

judging is easy
unless there's a huge backlog
then judging is hard

[Wayward Vagabond]

The hardest thing about judging files is the lack of diversity in stepartists

[PrawnSkunk]

judging feels like it's the same four arrows over and over again

[mrpreggers]

i have a few simfiles please lower your standards

[PrawnSkunk]

Going 2/2 for batch submission cap! Click each NPS graph to listen to the song~

[SKG_Scintill]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

The hardest thing about judging files is the lack of diversity in stepartists

dang dewd

[Deidara837]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

The hardest thing about judging files is the lack of diversity in stepartists

I'm sorry that waiting for a file to be released from batch is pretty much like a pregnancy #itsbeen9months

[dore]

Originally Posted by HeZe

Should we discuss how we could make file judging a bit less of a chore?

low attention to detail

[lurker]

Originally Posted by jimerax

SpaceLand TOYBOX (bmah) [Apr 30, 21:46]
Amnolys (bmah) [Apr 30, 21:46]

you would

[M0nkeyz]

so any updates?

[Silvuh]

Yesterday had the first real movement there's been on judging the September/October Batch since it was supposed to start back in January. Kayla rallied Nathan and AJ into helping out. (She's a lot better at confronting people one-on-one than I am.) So, 'cause we have three judges who are moving now, we might be trying a thing where each set only gets three judgments, and then game managers can look at the borderline cases. Might mean the conditional queue will be used more. We'll see.

I tried working again today, but I'm still having trouble. Just keep feeling awful about how I couldn't get any done sooner, and it's hard to focus when I keep beating myself up. Anyway.

As for judge applications, Dossar has been really stressed and busy, so he won't have time to look at applications until after the 15th. So over the next couple weeks, the other judges can leave comments on the applications and stuff, but we need the game managers to make final decisions.

Sorry for not posting more updates in here. And deeply sorry about how slow this has all been. I'm still forgetting that no news is still news, even though I know I've told myself that in here before.

[Deidara837]

You're doing what you can, and I appreciate that. Please don't get down on yourself over this, something done is better than nothing, and let's not focus on the "could be doing more" if it's detrimental to personal stuff

[Wayward Vagabond]

i rejected all the files i had to judge to make the process go by faster.

[ilikexd]

realistically speakin i'm consistently drinkin

[DossarLX ODI]

I can move towards judge applications on the 12th. Finals end for me on the 9th and I need a few days to rest my body (I've physically been having chest pains, ugh). There has been an idea I've proposed related to judging files and reducing the time required but still maintaining the overall level of quality, and that should be going into play.

Next week, or the 9th at the earliest, there will be a long post I will make regarding the batch situation and directions that will be taken to recover -- it's the infrastructure issues that need to be resolved first before even considering anything like an official tournament.

[M0nkeyz]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I can move towards judge applications on the 12th. Finals end for me on the 9th and I need a few days to rest my body (I've physically been having chest pains, ugh). There has been an idea I've proposed related to judging files and reducing the time required but still maintaining the overall level of quality, and that should be going into play.

Next week, or the 9th at the earliest, there will be a long post I will make regarding the batch situation and directions that will be taken to recover -- it's the infrastructure issues that need to be resolved first before even considering anything like an official tournament.

good(?) thing the last batch only had 20 files.

[HeZe]

Submitted a diff ~40 file (:

EDIT: How do you get SAP if you step a song with a friend?

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by HeZe

EDIT: How do you get SAP if you step a song with a friend?

You don't.

Collaborations do not count for Simfile Artist Points.

[DossarLX ODI]

Greetings everyone,

As I mentioned earlier I would make a post early this week about the directions that will be taken to recover the batch from its current failed state. I've failed to be an active Game Manager this year and it's been incredibly frustrating that I wasn't able to do as much as I had anticipated from the situation I was in, but it's time to bounce back. When I use "we" I mean Silvuh and myself here.

We will be looking into the judge applications; I've already reviewed several of them. These judge applications are necessary to bring aboard more active judges on the judge team. We're planning to contact inactive judges that haven't officially retired if they will be available any more.

I also proposed an idea around a month ago related to how a judge could approach files in a batch without spending too much time and still retaining quality. In addition, what I have in mind is supposed to give an accurate representation of how the submitted files would look ingame in an attempt to make judge reviews more relevant to the game itself and also reduce the time needed to judge sets without taking a hit on quality. This will be shown to the judge team shortly.

So we're focused on going through applications first before judging batch sets to bring more users on the team as active judges. After deciding on the judges from the applications, we can work towards judging sets again.

On another note, thanks for patiently cooperating despite how much the batch has suffered this year. This is an incremental process.