Starting in 3D

**Renevatia** · 12-23-2011, 01:13 PM

So I started 3D (finally)
Will be update this thread of a bunch of spam 3d stuff i guess..hopefully get the hang of the controls. The controls makes photoshop look like its made for 3yr olds. ;/
I have to say this is probably one of the proudest moment I've spent on a computer in a very long time lol.

as you can see its a teapot on a table on a floor floating in the sky.

**rushyrulz** · 12-23-2011, 01:17 PM

nice first crack at 3D

If photoshop's controls are for 3 year olds, I'm not even a twinkle in someone's eye.

**Renevatia** · 12-24-2011, 06:36 AM

after http://www.tuvie.com/futuristic-vect...ic-super-bike/

The model is full of glitches and stuff only know how to use extrude chamfer and simple move tool atm so sorry lol.
Took forever.. and then I discovered that you can actually import images into 3ds max as reference in 3d fffffffffff

who_cares973 · 12-24-2011, 07:38 AM

reminds me of autoCAD :'3

**darkshark** · 12-24-2011, 07:53 AM

That's a really good start on that motorcycle. Super sloppy, but a good start. Box extrude modeling is actually my favorite way to model things (aside from ZBrush) however I'm not so sure I would have chosen to model an entire bike in one chunk (unless it's going to be used as a game asset, then you're doing it right).

The bike itself is made up of a bunch of parts, so it's usually best to model it the same way...in parts. You should almost always drop a "Meshsmooth" or a "Turbosmooth" modifier on top of your mesh (turbosmooth has better algorithms for subdivision, I usually use that). You can then see where your model is going to need refinement, and just like your symmetry modifier, you can tick the little lightbulb icon to turn it on and off, so it's a good workflow to keep swapping back and forth between the smoothed model and the base model so you know you're doing things right.

**Renevatia** · 12-24-2011, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark

That's a really good start on that motorcycle. Super sloppy, but a good start. Box extrude modeling is actually my favorite way to model things (aside from ZBrush) however I'm not so sure I would have chosen to model an entire bike in one chunk (unless it's going to be used as a game asset, then you're doing it right).

The bike itself is made up of a bunch of parts, so it's usually best to model it the same way...in parts. You should almost always drop a "Meshsmooth" or a "Turbosmooth" modifier on top of your mesh (turbosmooth has better algorithms for subdivision, I usually use that). You can then see where your model is going to need refinement, and just like your symmetry modifier, you can tick the little lightbulb icon to turn it on and off, so it's a good workflow to keep swapping back and forth between the smoothed model and the base model so you know you're doing things right.

The problem I have with turbosmooth even meshsmooth is it hella smooths everything..it didnt make sense to me. I was kinda looking to get use to the controls a bit it helped a little, back to tutorials.

**darkshark** · 12-24-2011, 01:26 PM

It smooths to the mid point between two edges. I'll give an example gimme a sec.

**darkshark** · 12-24-2011, 01:39 PM

Standard box no smooth.

Standard box with smooth, 3 iterations.

Box with extra edges added near corners.

Box with extra edges added near corners, meshsmooth 3 iterations.

Only the top right edge with extra edges added near the corner

with smooth applied

Notice how that corner gets sharper and sharper the closer the edges are to it. Like I said meshsmooth bends faces at their midpoint, so you just have to keep in mind where the midpoint is on all of your faces.

**Renevatia** · 12-24-2011, 06:33 PM

tried fixing it but not much difference, gotta start cleaner next time..lol

EDIT
WIP lambo reventon took like forever before I figured out a reasonable way to do it...

**darkshark** · 12-25-2011, 07:52 AM

erm...box modeling a car isn't usually a good idea. Try planar modeling instead. It will make your life easier.

**Renevatia** · 12-25-2011, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark

erm...box modeling a car isn't usually a good idea. Try planar modeling instead. It will make your life easier.

with planar, how long does a car model usually take to make..?

edit

was trying it out, it so time consuming that I almost died. Probably done for the day.

I lied, kinda went on a bit more.

I can feel my shoulders dying.

**darkshark** · 12-26-2011, 07:11 AM

You have SO MANY triangles in that mesh, it's going to cause a ton of problems with smoothing. Try your absolute best to avoid creating faces with 3 sides. ALL of them should have 4 or more if you can. Most of the model looks like it's quads, but that back quarterpanel is hideous and will need quite a few cuts to turn all of those tri's into quads.

**Renevatia** · 12-27-2011, 05:58 AM

Alright got a bit of that done I will probably try it either tomorrow or day after, need a bit of break.
Need to paint something and find someone to play ping pong with. A bit deprived of just aobut everything else atm lol.

12-23-2011, 01:13 PM	#1
Renevatia FFR Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in your worst nightmere Posts: 555	Starting in 3D So I started 3D (finally) Will be update this thread of a bunch of spam 3d stuff i guess..hopefully get the hang of the controls. The controls makes photoshop look like its made for 3yr olds. ;/ I have to say this is probably one of the proudest moment I've spent on a computer in a very long time lol. as you can see its a teapot on a table on a floor floating in the sky. __________________ Reminder for self to make new sig.

12-23-2011, 01:17 PM	#2
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: Starting in 3D nice first crack at 3D If photoshop's controls are for 3 year olds, I'm not even a twinkle in someone's eye. __________________

12-24-2011, 06:36 AM	#3
Renevatia FFR Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in your worst nightmere Posts: 555	Re: Starting in 3D after http://www.tuvie.com/futuristic-vect...ic-super-bike/ The model is full of glitches and stuff only know how to use extrude chamfer and simple move tool atm so sorry lol. Took forever.. and then I discovered that you can actually import images into 3ds max as reference in 3d fffffffffff __________________ Reminder for self to make new sig.

12-24-2011, 07:38 AM	#4
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Starting in 3D reminds me of autoCAD :'3 __________________

12-24-2011, 07:53 AM	#5
darkshark Nothing. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Pacific Ocean Posts: 4,189	Re: Starting in 3D That's a really good start on that motorcycle. Super sloppy, but a good start. Box extrude modeling is actually my favorite way to model things (aside from ZBrush) however I'm not so sure I would have chosen to model an entire bike in one chunk (unless it's going to be used as a game asset, then you're doing it right). The bike itself is made up of a bunch of parts, so it's usually best to model it the same way...in parts. You should almost always drop a "Meshsmooth" or a "Turbosmooth" modifier on top of your mesh (turbosmooth has better algorithms for subdivision, I usually use that). You can then see where your model is going to need refinement, and just like your symmetry modifier, you can tick the little lightbulb icon to turn it on and off, so it's a good workflow to keep swapping back and forth between the smoothed model and the base model so you know you're doing things right.

12-24-2011, 01:26 PM	#7
darkshark Nothing. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Pacific Ocean Posts: 4,189	Re: Starting in 3D It smooths to the mid point between two edges. I'll give an example gimme a sec.

12-24-2011, 01:39 PM	#8
darkshark Nothing. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Pacific Ocean Posts: 4,189	Re: Starting in 3D Standard box no smooth. Standard box with smooth, 3 iterations. Box with extra edges added near corners. Box with extra edges added near corners, meshsmooth 3 iterations. Only the top right edge with extra edges added near the corner with smooth applied Notice how that corner gets sharper and sharper the closer the edges are to it. Like I said meshsmooth bends faces at their midpoint, so you just have to keep in mind where the midpoint is on all of your faces.

12-24-2011, 06:33 PM	#9
Renevatia FFR Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in your worst nightmere Posts: 555	Re: Starting in 3D tried fixing it but not much difference, gotta start cleaner next time..lol EDIT WIP lambo reventon took like forever before I figured out a reasonable way to do it... __________________ Reminder for self to make new sig. Last edited by Renevatia; 12-25-2011 at 06:42 AM..

12-25-2011, 07:52 AM	#10
darkshark Nothing. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Pacific Ocean Posts: 4,189	Re: Starting in 3D erm...box modeling a car isn't usually a good idea. Try planar modeling instead. It will make your life easier.

12-26-2011, 07:11 AM	#12
darkshark Nothing. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Pacific Ocean Posts: 4,189	Re: Starting in 3D You have SO MANY triangles in that mesh, it's going to cause a ton of problems with smoothing. Try your absolute best to avoid creating faces with 3 sides. ALL of them should have 4 or more if you can. Most of the model looks like it's quads, but that back quarterpanel is hideous and will need quite a few cuts to turn all of those tri's into quads.

12-27-2011, 05:58 AM	#13
Renevatia FFR Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in your worst nightmere Posts: 555	Re: Starting in 3D Alright got a bit of that done I will probably try it either tomorrow or day after, need a bit of break. Need to paint something and find someone to play ping pong with. A bit deprived of just aobut everything else atm lol. __________________ Reminder for self to make new sig.

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