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Old 10-19-2009, 12:10 PM   #101
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Default Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

either 2 or 3.
Duh. Haven't really learned about series and such yet.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:20 PM   #102
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either 2 or 3.
Yeah. Parentheses are like commas in mathematics.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:20 PM   #103
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15.67999... = 15.68

Not "approximately."

Not "close"

EQUAL

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Firstly, remember that we can't really interpret 0.000...1 as a finite decimal value, but rather, the point that by definition bounds the limit of 1/n as n gets infinitely large. This point is of course 0 (which will be subsequently proven).

For any two values x1 and x2, x1/n can be made arbitrarily close to x2/n by taking n to be a sufficiently large number. Thus,

lim (n→∞) x1/n = lim (n→∞) x2/n, for all x

Since x is a constant, we can extend the notion and say that

lim (n→∞) x1/n = lim (n→∞) x2/n for all x =>
x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = x2[lim (n→∞) 1/n] for all x

Thus, taking x2 to be 0,

x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = x2[lim (n→∞) 1/n] =>
x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = 0[lim (n→∞) 1/n] =>
x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = 0 =>
lim (n→∞) x1/n = 0

And that's why lim (n→∞) x/n = 0 for all x. Proceeding with the proof...

Taking x1 to be 1,

lim (n→∞) x1/n = 0 =>
lim (n→∞) 1/n = 0 =>

From the aforementioned interpretation, 0.000…1 is equivalent to lim (n→∞) 1/n. Thus,

lim (n→∞) 1/n = 0 =>
0.000...1 = 0

And finally getting back to the problem at hand...

Since lim (n→∞) 1/n = 0.000...1 = 0 = lim (n→0) n,

15.68 - lim (n→∞) 1/n = 15.68 - lim (n→0) n =>
15.68 - 0.000...1 = 15.68 - 0 =>
15.67999... = 15.68

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Old 10-19-2009, 12:24 PM   #104
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Yeah. Parentheses are like commas in mathematics.
But its only 1 answer, unless stated otherwise.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:26 PM   #105
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There's one "-1" missing in the end.

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The sum S is infinite, it doesn't make any sesne to say S-A is 4S because nothing can be the 4 times more infinite than something else.
No, you just can't rearrange infinite series that don't conditionally converge because you can make it equal whatever you want (not to mention divergent series).

ieat wouldn't 10^-n have been easier? :P
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:35 PM   #106
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If x is any number,

x ^ 0 = 1

Explain please.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:39 PM   #107
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Default Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

The reason why I suggested we please not get into this is that we were going to discuss a thing that's of the same level as "IS ONE PLUS ONE TWO OR THREE"
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If x is any number =/= 0,

x ^ 0 = 1

Explain please.
fixed, because you just can't divide by 0.

x² x x² = x^(2+2) = x^4
x² / x² = x^(2-2) = x^0
so, x^0 = x / x, it's like dividing x by itself, or just 1.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:52 PM   #109
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lim (n→∞) 1/n = 0 =>
0.000...1 = 0
What the ****?
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:53 PM   #110
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Default Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

But can I say that 1 = 2?

0 x 1 = 0
0 x 2 = 0

Thus

0 x 1 = 0 x 2

and then

0/0 x 1 = 0/0 x 2

so finally

1 = 2
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:55 PM   #111
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No, you just can't rearrange infinite series that don't conditionally converge because you can make it equal whatever you want (not to mention divergent series).
Proof 4 converges. All terms are 0.
But yeah whatever. The only reason you can't rearrange them is because they are already infinite and it doesn't make sense.
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@hakim: You just divided by zero
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But can I say that 1 = 2?

0 x 1 = 0
0 x 2 = 0

Thus

0 x 1 = 0 x 2

and then

0/0 x 1 = 0/0 x 2

so finally

1 = 2
Well, I think if you eliminate the 0's (in case, 0/0), you eliminate the whole line. Or in a different point of view:

Priorizing multiplication, instead of division, using parentheses, you have 0 / (0 x 1) = 0 / (0 x 2),

then, 0 / 0 = 0 / 0

but you can just ignore the parentheses using and priorize the multiplication, it will be right anyway. That's why I think if you eliminate the 0 division, you eliminate the whole line.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:02 PM   #114
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0.000...1 = 0

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Old 10-19-2009, 01:14 PM   #115
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now THAT was mind blowing.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:36 PM   #116
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Proof 4 converges. All terms are 0.
But yeah whatever. The only reason you can't rearrange them is because they are already infinite and it doesn't make sense.
The problem is he takes an absolutely convergent series and changes into a conditionally convergent series, which cannot be rearranged without changing the outcome of the series (to whatever you want :P).

And I meant to say absolutely in my above post, sry.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:58 PM   #117
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But can I say that 1 = 2?

0 x 1 = 0
0 x 2 = 0

Thus

0 x 1 = 0 x 2

and then

0/0 x 1 = 0/0 x 2

so finally

1 = 2
actually, this is typically the proof used to define 0/0 as an indeterminate form
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:41 PM   #118
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yup pretty much

0*whatever = 0 =>
0*whatever1 = 0*whatever2 =>
0 / 0 = (whatever1 / whatever2)^sqrt(1) = whatever

wala you did math
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:54 PM   #120
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Are you all in math enriched? God damn, I dont understand anything of those things and I'm ''ok'' in Math( im not in enriched)
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