jTWG LII: Sacred Heart

[u84]

Way to use it out of context. I was talking about my conversation and yours. Not mine and Freaky's. Stop trying to take things out of context to kill me, wolf.

[infinity.]

Originally Posted by u84

Way to use it out of context. I was talking about my conversation and yours. Not mine and Freaky's. Stop trying to take things out of context to kill me, wolf.

the thing is, i havent done anything suspicious

you've done plenty

so calling names isnt really something you should do.

[u84]

Originally Posted by Infinity.

the thing is, i havent done anything suspicious

you've done plenty

so calling names isnt really something you should do.

You know what? I'm done arguing this. TWG, I ask that you carefully read this and understand that I may be wrong that they are wolves, but I am the seer and if I die tonight, then kill them. That would make them wolves trying to frame me and doing a damn good job of it.

[kotorfanboy]

ok, infinity's post shows that u84 mixed up freaky and infinity. u84 came out as seer to infinity, but thought he came out to freaky. Freaky jumped to conclusions and assumed that this meant u84 is a wolf, but in reality u84 might be the seer who just made a simple mistake. We can't rush and bandwagon this thing.

[Ruritsu]

^That...

However, we can go about voting Robert at any time...

[kotorfanboy]

Well, when Robert gets freaked out, it could mean two things:

1. He is a wolf who thinks he got seered and was getting really nervous
2. He is a human who is nervous because he think he will be pegged as a wolf when he really is a green or even a blue.

It could go either way, we are rushing into this thing way to fast. Think about it for a moment. I'm voting hi_top for rushing into a bandwagon vote way to fast. 3 minutes after the post? Think about it before you vote.

[robertsona]

switching vote to hoochan for inactivity

[Ruritsu]

Roberts behavior in the chat seems, to me, like that of a wolf whom has given up on convincing people he is not one. He seemed to be just playing around and accepting death...

But whatever...

I also think that Freaky and Infinity aren't lying, but are just under the impression that U84 is a wolf. I think (And this will meet opposition) it stupid for them to pose as the mansons be them human or wolf, because ONE of the real mansons could counter claim...

SO if someone wants to make a counter claim I'm all for it, and if someone does we lynch all three of them and get at least one wolf...

[Ruritsu]

All those places where it says "manson" replace with mason

[infinity.]

Originally Posted by Ruritsu

Roberts behavior in the chat seems, to me, like that of a wolf whom has given up on convincing people he is not one. He seemed to be just playing around and accepting death...

But whatever...

I also think that Freaky and Infinity aren't lying, but are just under the impression that U84 is a wolf. I think (And this will meet opposition) it stupid for them to pose as the mansons be them human or wolf, because ONE of the real mansons could counter claim...

SO if someone wants to make a counter claim I'm all for it, and if someone does we lynch all three of them and get at least one wolf...

i dont understand robert's behavior at all, honestly.
as u84 said, drop it for now and lets see how it unfolds,

switching to a safety on ruritsu

[Temote]

Originally Posted by chat

Sumote (7:53:28 PM): The point of a mason is for one mason to keep hidden and the other one to use all the info the two collect. >_>
Ruritsu (7:53:32 PM): Runs is what I meant
robertsonarofl (7:53:37 PM): oh
Sumote (7:53:42 PM): And then freaky screwed it up by saying who the other one is, assuming they're telling the truth.
Ruritsu (7:54:00 PM): Sumote: Right now I think that could use some revision, no?
kotorfanboy (7:54:06 PM): good logic Sumote
kotorfanboy (7:54:16 PM): wait
kotorfanboy (7:54:20 PM): not on your second par
kotorfanboy (7:54:20 PM): t
Ruritsu (7:54:27 PM): Assume they aren't telling the truth sumote
u84 77 (7:54:36 PM): then if they arent
Ruritsu (7:54:36 PM): Then its an utterly stupid move
Sumote (7:54:38 PM): Then they're both wolves, and trying to get our trust.
u84 77 (7:54:38 PM): then its good
kotorfanboy (7:54:41 PM): if only one mason comes out, how do we know they are telling the truth?
robertsonarofl (7:54:45 PM): oh god so many convos
kotorfanboy (7:54:48 PM): if they are both wolves the real masons should come out
Sumote (7:54:48 PM): or freaky is trying to get infinity lynched with him.
robertsonarofl (7:54:49 PM): MAKE IT STOP
u84 77 (7:54:49 PM): alright hold on
robertsonarofl (7:54:50 PM): AHAHHHHH
u84 77 (7:54:52 PM): lemme try this
u84 77 (7:54:54 PM): lemme talk
u84 77 (7:54:54 PM): ok
u84 77 (7:54:55 PM): so
kotorfanboy (7:54:58 PM): go on
robertsonarofl (7:55:00 PM): combo break
Ruritsu (7:55:01 PM): Only one of the real mansons need to out them selves to ruin that move
robertsonarofl (7:55:01 PM): er
u84 77 (7:55:05 PM): if freaky and infin arent mason
u84 77 (7:55:16 PM): then it was imparitive that freaky bring both out as "masons
kotorfanboy (7:55:19 PM): brb
u84 77 (7:55:25 PM): to further back up his "proof"
u84 77 (7:55:26 PM): but
u84 77 (7:55:29 PM): if they were real
u84 77 (7:55:32 PM): sumote is right
u84 77 (7:55:37 PM): makes no sense to bring both out
robertsonarofl (7:55:41 PM): hmmm
u84 77 (7:55:46 PM): that's what i have
robertsonarofl (7:55:47 PM): why is that again
robertsonarofl (7:55:50 PM): ?
Sumote (7:55:59 PM): Because then someone has extra info in case the front dies.
kotorfanboy (7:56:00 PM): back
robertsonarofl (7:56:06 PM): ah

Freaky, you have a bit of explaining to do.

[Temote]

Or, to paraphrase:

Freaky shouldn't have brought out infinity along with him, because that would just leave them both as targets, whereas we could have kept all freaky's info on infinity while still pursuing u84. However, if he's not the mason, then he would need someone to collaborate with his actions (that is, a fellow wolf).

[kotorfanboy]

To further my vote against hi_top, I believe him to be a wolf that is trying to band wagon against someone else to draw attention away from him and his wolves.

[robertsona]

i really dont think voting for someone is very good evidence

[freakysnots]

Uh hi, to answer temote's little thing.

u84 had the conversation with my partner. Since I posted all of this, then I am sure that u84 is a wolf and that he has my partner's name. So it wouldn't make sense for me to not post my partner's name since I know that the wolves know who my partner is but all the humans don't.

Robert is a wolf, no questions asked.

u84 may or may not be the seer, we don't know that. The way he is randomly telling people that he is the seer makes him a very worthless seer. But that isn't the reason I am suspecting him. The only reason I see him randomly telling people that he is seer is to gain their trust. He chose new players to tell them that he is the seer to gain their trust. After he saw that I caught a wolf, he immediately had a "reason" to go to me and tell me that he is the seer.

I am going to go and read over all of the posts cuz you guys posted a lot in the last hour.

Physic/Seer come out to either me or infinity. We need to build an alliance here.

[freakysnots]

Also might I add, the reason u84 came to me is because of my post on robert. Amazing how quickly he changed his views after I voted for him and now he is defending robert.

Originally Posted by u84

My vote is going to Freakysnots for trying to frame everyone. Although, that robertsona log seems kind of funky. I think you just scared the **** out of him. That's all.

Anyways, the physic can confirm all of this when we kill u84.

Also, in a game without guards, the seer / physic are almost useless since it would be terribly hard to bring out the information. If a mason comes out to gather information, it is more than likely that a wolf would try to go inside the alliance and a physic/ seer not trusting the mason and not coming out to them. This creates chaos. I thought about that the moment this game started and decided to take a different approch.

And we have ourselves this.

btw, still not done reading
gonna go read some more

[kotorfanboy]

Alright I just talked to freaky, and he cleared things up for me. I agree that robertsona is a wolf, because of the stated evidence and also this which I didn't catch onto before:

(11:10:56 PM) freakysnots: i said this
(11:11:01 PM) freakysnots: [16:32] freakysnots: when i seer you
[16:32] freakysnots: it was like
[16:32] freakysnots: robertsonofa is a wolf
(11:11:10 PM) freakysnots: and he said this immediately after that
(11:11:10 PM) freakysnots: [16:32] robertsonarofl: pntballa
[16:32] robertsonarofl: what a lazy guy
(11:11:20 PM) freakysnots: refering to "robertsonofa is a wolf"

Paint said he would customize all pm's, and instead of proving he wasn't a red, robertsona just said that paint is lazy for not saying a story behind the seering. That is basically a confession of his being a wolf. He didn't make a counterpoint, just basically gave in when he realized that he was found out

I reiterate, robertsona

[u84]

Yeah, a little word of warning. Do not come out to freaky or infinity. They are both possible wolves. I came out to them as the seer and now this. So keep it to yourself. I'm not telling you to come out to me, but they could easily. Now, don't take this the wrong way. I am not saying they are, but it would be a great strategy to take out little tid-bits of conversations, accuse the seer and come out as masons by killing off one of your fellow wolves, robertsona. This gains people's trust. So, I am not saying they are wolves, but I wouldn't trust them, as they are both trying to frame me as a wolf only because I was a fool and trusted them.

[freakysnots]

Haha you are silly u84.

What you are saying is that you want the Physic/Seer to keep their readings to themselves and have no way of getting it to the public.

Good job. You win twg.

Anyways guys, robert do it now.

This
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...8&postcount=11

Plus
This
[16:32] freakysnots: when i seer you
[16:32] freakysnots: it was like
[16:32] freakysnots: robertsonofa is a wolf
[16:32] robertsonarofl: pntballa
[16:32] robertsonarofl: what a lazy guy
[16:32] robertsonarofl: rofl

Equals wolf.

[u84]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

Haha you are silly u84.

What you are saying is that you want the Physic/Seer to keep their readings to themselves and have no way of getting it to the public.

Good job. You win twg.

Anyways guys, robert do it now.

This
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...8&postcount=11

Plus
This
[16:32] freakysnots: when i seer you
[16:32] freakysnots: it was like
[16:32] freakysnots: robertsonofa is a wolf
[16:32] robertsonarofl: pntballa
[16:32] robertsonarofl: what a lazy guy
[16:32] robertsonarofl: rofl

Equals wolf.

I don't care if they get into the public. Feel free to post it. But do not reveal yourself to them alone. Stop ****ing framing me, wolf.