TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see - Page 42

**j-rodd123** · 06-3-2013, 07:11 PM

the thing is i already used it last night, maybe a bit premature but i wasn't sure if i was going to be targetted since i was the other outed blue.

anyways ac1 and vic were on my list so originally i submitted it under ac1, but with only 30 minutes left in the phase i switched to vic. the only thing i wasn't sure of was if vic/tps were wolf pair, and tps submitted the kill, if it would still go through even though he was killed.

in hindsight i am wishing i left the roleblock on ac1

**j-rodd123** · 06-3-2013, 07:15 PM

so yeah, vic can't be the serial killer, and if serial killer takes precedent over wolf kill (i.e. SK kills tps, tps dead so unable to kill cedo), then vic is cleared. if not, then the block was kind of useless

**Vendetta21** · 06-3-2013, 07:26 PM

The block cleared Vic as serial killer. There is that.

We also can have a slightly lower degree of confidence in her wolf hood because if I were TPS and Vic I would have had Vic send in the kill.

Viccica · 06-3-2013, 07:43 PM

I think that you assuming I would distance myself from every wolf partner, when almost every lynch has been a controversial one is a little reaching. Further, while AC1 is an older player I don't think he's one to give credit for making zero mistakes whatsoever. His response in particular to votes falling on him was angry, but with no legitimate defense. Which in my experiences is standard of AC1 when he's backed into a corner.

Further to defend myself, I was in favor of lynching dance, but waiting to do it. It was clear he was going to die, why defend him at all? I even listed him as one of my two suspects before he was even on the chopping block.

Meanwhile Ac1 has jumped on people out of convenience with weak assertions of his own. He's been very passive aggressive, enough to ensure he doesn't get too far on anyone's bad side. The only reason he's coming up now is really because we're running out of other candidates.

FoJaR · 06-3-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendetta21

@fojar can you explain whether there is an order to night time action resolution or if all killing roles strike simultaneously

killing roles do not strike simultaneously. kills can prevent other actions from occuring.

Viccica · 06-3-2013, 07:44 PM

Also just saw the new posts. I guess I didn't need to say much anyway.

**Vendetta21** · 06-3-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FoJaR

killing roles do not strike simultaneously. kills can prevent other actions from occuring.

What is the order of operations?

This seems like something that should be public knowledge, as after you reveal in post game all players will expect and play as if it operates in that order in future games.

**j-rodd123** · 06-3-2013, 07:45 PM

yay ur all clear viccccccy!!!

Viccica · 06-3-2013, 07:47 PM

Cool. Now obey me.

Viccica · 06-3-2013, 07:47 PM

As of right now I have no demands.

FoJaR · 06-3-2013, 07:48 PM

i go back until i find an event that doesnt have anything modifying it and then i resolve, kind of like natural action resolution, but i let kills modify the chain of events.

AC1speakerbox · 06-3-2013, 07:53 PM

wolves definitely kill before or along with SK

vic is most definitely not cleared

**Vendetta21** · 06-3-2013, 07:53 PM

I believe the serial killer can either be AC1 or Zoshi and no one else.

Zoshi is also my #2 wolf suspect after mulling over the thing jrodd used to clear him. I think TPS could have said that intentionally.

Zoshi has been pretty neutral, jokey, and laissez faire this whole game. Hasn't contributed anything useful either. He was the last to lynch dance.

v safety on myself so we don't have a shotgun no lynch

I'm going to have a beer before happy hour ends

Viccica since the suspicion on you is less strong please weigh in on your top SK and wolf candidates

**Vendetta21** · 06-3-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AC1speakerbox

wolves definitely kill before or along with SK

vic is most definitely not cleared

No that isn't what fojar said, also lol you are getting yourself killed

**j-rodd123** · 06-3-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AC1speakerbox

wolves definitely kill before or along with SK

vic is most definitely not cleared

did u not read what fojar said? a kill disrupts the chain of events. SK kills TPS --> kill TPS sends no longer is active. Therefore vic is clear

AC1speakerbox · 06-3-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Viccica

enough to ensure he doesn't get too far on anyone's bad side

that's funny

**j-rodd123** · 06-3-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Zoshi is also my #2 wolf suspect after mulling over the thing jrodd used to clear him. I think TPS could have said that intentionally.

when did i clear zoshi?

AC1speakerbox · 06-3-2013, 07:56 PM

I honestly don't see where he said SK takes precedence. Being totally serious here.

**Vendetta21** · 06-3-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by j-rodd123

when did i clear zoshi?

Sorry that was freaky. Linked a post by TPS concerning zoshi. Please read.

**j-rodd123** · 06-3-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AC1speakerbox

I honestly don't see where he said SK takes precedence. Being totally serious here.

he didn't, just that if someone sending in an action (i.e a kill) were killed, then their action is voided

06-3-2013, 07:26 PM	#823
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see The block cleared Vic as serial killer. There is that. We also can have a slightly lower degree of confidence in her wolf hood because if I were TPS and Vic I would have had Vic send in the kill.

06-3-2013, 07:48 PM	#831
FoJaR The Worst Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: space ghost is dead to me Posts: 2,816	Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see i go back until i find an event that doesnt have anything modifying it and then i resolve, kind of like natural action resolution, but i let kills modify the chain of events. __________________

06-3-2013, 07:53 PM	#832
AC1speakerbox FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 1,242	Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see wolves definitely kill before or along with SK vic is most definitely not cleared

06-3-2013, 07:53 PM	#833
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see I believe the serial killer can either be AC1 or Zoshi and no one else. Zoshi is also my #2 wolf suspect after mulling over the thing jrodd used to clear him. I think TPS could have said that intentionally. Zoshi has been pretty neutral, jokey, and laissez faire this whole game. Hasn't contributed anything useful either. He was the last to lynch dance. v safety on myself so we don't have a shotgun no lynch I'm going to have a beer before happy hour ends Viccica since the suspicion on you is less strong please weigh in on your top SK and wolf candidates

06-3-2013, 07:56 PM	#838
AC1speakerbox FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 1,242	Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see I honestly don't see where he said SK takes precedence. Being totally serious here.

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