TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Also I'm not worried about association at this point although I will do some work on that.

I'm reading roundbox more town than wolf at this point and I would not want him lynched.

Reason being wolfbox would never plant that info about multiple night kills and set himself up to be picked apart the next day. Or take any risk like that actually

Tell me, were you also expecting multiple kills to happen night 4 after you saved MML night 1 and have only one person die from there on out?

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

Or was that someone else I said that to?

Meh, regardless, you're overthinking.

What tonal shifts are you referring to?

First 3 days: passive, wait and see approach to analysis where you are most active during eod solving wise.

Today: out of the gate coming after people, very aggressive language, extremely confrontational.

Sorry, I got you. Your not weaseling your way out of this.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

First 3 days: passive, wait and see approach to analysis where you are most active during eod solving wise.

Today: out of the gate coming after people, very aggressive language, extremely confrontational.

Sorry, I got you. Your not weaseling your way out of this.

You're kidding, right? That was only to roundbox with a tinge of Xiz in the mix when asked who I thought were the remaining wolves.

Explain how that's coming after "people".

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

Tell me, were you also expecting multiple kills to happen night 4 after you saved MML night 1 and have only one person die from there on out?

To answer your question, if I had gone to Vegas I would not have bet on it. But I think it's entirely possible.

To pose the unasked question,

How does the fact that roundbox predicted this indicate he is a wolf besides the painfully obvious level 1.

[FreezinIce]

I'm not arguing semantics.

My point still stands

[FreezinIce]

If you think you're going to powerwolf your way out of this against me, when I'm confirmed town to boot, you have another thing coming.

I'd rethink my approach friend

[FreezinIce]

I also realize that I'm just one person.

Hopefully the rest of town sees my viewpoint, corrects me or agrees based on their experiences and views, and we come to a consensus

[Charu]

Well your viewpoint is incorrect, my dude.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

How does the fact that roundbox predicted this indicate he is a wolf besides the painfully obvious level 1.

Town appealment and or a "wolf would never say/do this" strat.

Roundbox already has suspicion on him throughout the game from, not just me, multiple players. Why not post something trivial as to make it so when questioned this phase, players like you could go "I don't see a wolf roundbox doing this."

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

Town appealment and or a "wolf would never say/do this" strat.

Roundbox already has suspicion on him throughout the game from, not just me, multiple players. Why not post something trivial as to make it so when questioned this phase, players like you could go "I don't see a wolf roundbox doing this."

Do you think this is the most likely thing that happened?

And not, you know, genuine concern?

[Daikyi]

re-iterating that multiple dead people have flipped extra killing power

e.g. prec with day vig
manti with character assassinations
haku with vigis
(looking back at role pm,) tokzic actually also had a thing where he could kill the least active poster in the game

[FreezinIce]

What takes away from me believing you is the fact that you attacked immediately and uncharacteristically intensely for it, instead of it coming up naturally or him bringing it up himself

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Do you think this is the most likely thing that happened?

And not, you know, genuine concern?

If it was genuine concern, then he should've been louder about it instead of spending one post on it and nothing else.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

What takes away from me believing you is the fact that you attacked immediately and uncharacteristically intensely for it, instead of it coming up naturally or him bringing it up himself

If he was more vocal about it, I'd be more lenient, but just made the one post.

Double check if you want.

[Daikyi]

Originally Posted by Charu

If it was genuine concern, then he should've been louder about it instead of spending one post on it and nothing else.

i don't think your logic really flows here charu.

what does posting more about "omg there might be potentially more nightkills" do to affect the gamestate? like, posting more about how there might be more than 1 nightkill doesn't actually do anything, it doesn't alter the fact that there were 3 nightkills, and i don't think posting more about it would have prevented anything? like i don't get what you're trying to argue about roundbox?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

re-iterating that multiple dead people have flipped extra killing power

e.g. prec with day vig
manti with character assassinations
haku with vigis
(looking back at role pm,) tokzic actually also had a thing where he could kill the least active poster in the game

Most of 'em would have to have a promotion item, right? Which means something from the events. Tokzic I believe was the only one that naturally got better as the game progressed.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

i don't think your logic really flows here charu.

what does posting more about "omg there might be potentially more nightkills" do to affect the gamestate? like, posting more about how there might be more than 1 nightkill doesn't actually do anything, it doesn't alter the fact that there were 3 nightkills, and i don't think posting more about it would have prevented anything? like i don't get what you're trying to argue about roundbox?

No, it doesn't effect the game. But it does effect how genuine the person in question is about the possibility of multiple deaths after one death per night game.

Like if Roundbox was more into it, then sure, and then we could've talked about it a little and maybe actually freakin' discuss about the melon kill that no one else was interested in. But nope, he only did one post and no one really talked about it after that since it was something random and non-helpful at that point.

Am I making sense here?

[Daikyi]

not really, because it's one single data point involving roundbox calling out the possibility of multiple kill potential per night. I don't think there's really any conversation to come after that, it feels like roundbox is just saying something he's felt, and i don't disagree

his reasoning is exactly what reasoning i'd use as well, i.e. it's a 24 man game, do you honestly expect only 1 kill per night for the entire game? and given the nature of roles that build up over time, can you honestly say that roundbox's remark is a fake worry?

Like, yes on one side wolfbox could setup that claim if he knew of extra kp or something, but it makes just as much sense for townbox to remark about that. There's more discussion points if we assume wolfbox, because we can ask whether he would go out of his way to mention that right before day phase ends (i honestly don't think wolfbox would do anything of the sort there) but otherwise, charu you feel like you're trying to overgeneralize a situation of "being genuine", and "making remarks about the gamestate"

[Celirra]

Do you guys think xiz/xel/blind could work as a wolf trio here?

[Daikyi]

Originally Posted by Celirra

Do you guys think xiz/xel/blind could work as a wolf trio here?

that's more or less where i'm sitting at right now, if you swap around xel+blind in terms of wolfiness sureity