Ingame Song Information - Page 19

**igotrhythm** · 01-17-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

yea degraded Synes to high 3.5, below Green Twilight.

I must have played the new version at least 15 times in a row before I got that elusive FC due to the really weird note placement. (Hakulyte once complained about it being the type of song I could beat him at when we played in MP once.) But since I remember pretty well how much I was gnashing my teeth over being unable to combo one part of Domani around the 150 combo point back when I was less skilled, whereas I was able to bang out the Synes FC in a single night of whoring, maybe Synes should be moved down another notch. It's still a 3.5, I'm just saying to move it below Domani.

**Shashakiro** · 01-18-2007, 12:24 AM

Requesting Max Forever be moved up...it's harder than CIA Rave IMO, at the very least.

Might be only 150 BPM (basically), but it's insanely long (stamina draining for some) and has long trills.

Doesn't feel like a 4 at all, either...much more like a 4.5.

**Doug31** · 01-18-2007, 01:25 AM

I've always thought Caprice should be a 6, although I stopped arguing it long ago. For me, Max Forever is way easier than CIA Rave; I even find it easier to FC, even though it's very much longer. Although, I'm not affected by the stamina factor on it, and CIA Rave is a lot easier for indexers than it is for me, also. Also, add the credit requirement of Summer as 25,000.

Also, I came up with another definition for 6/6:
Songs that barely anyone has FC'd. From looking at the high score lists, it appears to me that all of the now 6/6 songs are the songs that have 10 or less FCs, and the rest of the songs have more. This discounts stuff like chrono, though.

**Shashakiro** · 01-18-2007, 01:28 AM

Meh. If anything, do what was done with Caprice: just stick it in the higher difficulty without changing the order.

really feels more like a 4.5 than a 4, that's all.

**Doug31** · 01-18-2007, 01:31 AM

I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear. I agree with what was done with Caprice. I'm not sure what to do with max forever though, I think it's fine where it is, but I admit it may be different for other people.

**jimerax** · 01-18-2007, 07:07 AM

Length is the only factor that makes MAX Forever harder than CIA for me.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 01-18-2007, 07:21 AM

I'd agree with moving max forever to a 4.5. Mainy because of the long trills that CIA doesn't really have. Cia's faster, but its constant stream over the whole song without many breaks. Max has a bunch of breaks which makes it slightly (not much) harder to pa. Lengths already been disussed.

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Originally Posted by JX

[*] - Songs that is impossible to AAA

I'm sure this is killing the grammar gurus out there.

**Tasselfoot** · 01-18-2007, 08:04 AM

CIA Rave is definitely harder... for spread.

**jimerax** · 01-18-2007, 08:13 AM

Breaks make it a lot easier for me.

* fixed grammar kthx *

purevil · 01-18-2007, 03:46 PM

i agree with the list

**Doug31** · 01-18-2007, 05:14 PM

You still need to add Summer -Speedy Mix- to the Credit requirement of Secret Songs requiring 25,000.

**jimerax** · 01-18-2007, 05:25 PM

added.

**jimerax** · 01-20-2007, 10:59 AM

added {Red Alert} to 4.

moches · 01-21-2007, 09:20 PM

I agree Max Forever is underrated. For people like me, we get tired halfway in then do sucky the rest of the song. Therefore, it should be a low challenging, like Playdoh or Famouz, it deserves a 62 rating.

**jimerax** · 01-22-2007, 05:30 AM

added Get Ready to 3.5.
IMO it's between Platypus and Domani though.

and yea like I said if you consider length factor is more important, Max Forever would be 4.5.

**Shashakiro** · 01-22-2007, 07:55 AM

You mean Platypus and Domani, lol.

**jimerax** · 01-22-2007, 07:57 AM

omg yea *resembles*

**hi19hi19** · 01-22-2007, 08:13 AM

If I have one gripe with this list, it's that I think TGWP4 should be around Tribal and Evil Apporaches in difficulty. I never understood why people think it is that easy; it took me tons more tries to FC than Evil Approches, and it's harder to PA too.

FRANKKK · 01-22-2007, 09:16 AM

i used to play index and i still think cia rave is way harder
i play spread now so its still the same

Vishnal · 01-22-2007, 09:48 AM

CIA isn't really that hard. You don't have jacks, and it's really just a big, long stream of 16th steps with a break of some 8th jumpstream in the middle. At most it's Very Difficult, IMO.

Delirium is a little harder, though, because the BG screws with your mind a little. It also has some 16th jumpstream, quirky jumps, and some 8th jumpwhoring. It deserves to be a high Challenging.

TGWP4 is harder, since you have some sub-16th stream, major 8th jumpwhoring, and it also kinda lulls you in with a simpler beginning. It deserves a Very Challenging rating, at least.

Chrono Trigger: it's really a Very Difficult at most. It's not hard to pass, and it's short. You know you're guaranteed at least 8 misses, so you can relax a little. Also, the jacks aren't too grinding to hit.

Secret Zombie Room is Easy at best. Those 8ths are cake to FC, and I believe around 500+ players have it AAA'd.

Kick It is Tricky, at most, though. None of the 16ths really throw you off too much, and the 8th stream is pretty easy, too.

Tetris Remix should just be Difficult. The jumpstream is predictable and easy. The 16ths are fairly easy, as well.

Revolutionary Etude has the right rating. That can't possibly be AAA'd, though; what's wrong with you??? JK...

Also, do you really think Crowdpleaser is FC'able? Or Grand Gallop? Or OMW?

Coat Czech is Very Difficult; it's not too hard to get the jacks, since they're kind of, in essence, 8th-12th notes through the BPM. Also, it's not too chaotic, since the sub-16ths are predictable: nearly always in staircases. None of the jumps are too hard either...

And that's my review: feel free to give feedback.

01-18-2007, 01:25 AM	#363
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I've always thought Caprice should be a 6, although I stopped arguing it long ago. For me, Max Forever is way easier than CIA Rave; I even find it easier to FC, even though it's very much longer. Although, I'm not affected by the stamina factor on it, and CIA Rave is a lot easier for indexers than it is for me, also. Also, add the credit requirement of Summer as 25,000. Also, I came up with another definition for 6/6: Songs that barely anyone has FC'd. From looking at the high score lists, it appears to me that all of the now 6/6 songs are the songs that have 10 or less FCs, and the rest of the songs have more. This discounts stuff like chrono, though. __________________

01-18-2007, 01:31 AM	#365
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear. I agree with what was done with Caprice. I'm not sure what to do with max forever though, I think it's fine where it is, but I admit it may be different for other people. __________________

01-18-2007, 07:07 AM	#366
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Length is the only factor that makes MAX Forever harder than CIA for me. Last edited by jimerax; 01-19-2007 at 04:42 AM..

01-18-2007, 08:04 AM	#368
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 CIA Rave is definitely harder... for spread. __________________ RIP

01-18-2007, 08:13 AM	#369
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Breaks make it a lot easier for me. * fixed grammar kthx *

01-18-2007, 03:46 PM	#370
purevil FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Twilight Zone Age: 31 Posts: 22	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 i agree with the list

01-18-2007, 05:14 PM	#371
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 You still need to add Summer -Speedy Mix- to the Credit requirement of Secret Songs requiring 25,000. __________________

01-18-2007, 05:25 PM	#372
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 added.

01-20-2007, 10:59 AM	#373
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 added {Red Alert} to 4.

01-21-2007, 09:20 PM	#374
moches FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 28 Posts: 3,996	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I agree Max Forever is underrated. For people like me, we get tired halfway in then do sucky the rest of the song. Therefore, it should be a low challenging, like Playdoh or Famouz, it deserves a 62 rating.

01-22-2007, 05:30 AM	#375
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 added Get Ready to 3.5. IMO it's between Platypus and Domani though. and yea like I said if you consider length factor is more important, Max Forever would be 4.5. Last edited by jimerax; 01-22-2007 at 07:57 AM..

01-22-2007, 07:57 AM	#377
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 omg yea resembles

01-22-2007, 08:13 AM	#378
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 If I have one gripe with this list, it's that I think TGWP4 should be around Tribal and Evil Apporaches in difficulty. I never understood why people think it is that easy; it took me tons more tries to FC than Evil Approches, and it's harder to PA too. __________________

01-22-2007, 09:16 AM	#379
FRANKKK FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,802	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 i used to play index and i still think cia rave is way harder i play spread now so its still the same

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