TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes (Day 4!) - Page 8

TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons · 12-3-2005, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

Um, imo, telling the guardian they did a good job (which they did) is completely different from asking in a thread "why nick?"

Agreed, especially as Night 1 saves don't happen often. Giving the guardian praise for making a good decision is very different from wolfily analyzing the kill on the first page.

mattc16 · 12-4-2005, 09:50 AM

Interesting kilga. However, if i was a wolf, I'd want to keep people like nick and rai for example around, as they are fairly new to TWG, like me, so I would be hoping they made somekind of slip up which took suspicion off me.

apologies to everyone for my inactivity on day 2, a good friend of mine was killed in a car crash last week, and i attended his funeral on friday, so TWG wasn't exactly at the top of my priorities list over this weekend.

Afrobean · 12-4-2005, 01:07 PM

oh hay i haven't voted for tass yet today. Just looking back at his vote for jurs on day 1:

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Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

Jurs. I have no evidence of my own to add. I haven't talked to Jurs at all this game... purely based off of the interactions posted by Fish and eb. Definately seems out of character for her. Well, not out of character... just, her character outside of TWG vs her character inside of TWG.

Not something Tass should be doing. Blind bandwagons are not cool~ and Tass is not usually one to go with the flow if there's poor reasoning behind it.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-4-2005, 02:06 PM

Aww... and to think, it just wouldn't be a day of TWG without Afro coming up with a reason to vote me.

evilbutterfly · 12-4-2005, 06:08 PM

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bjstrattonIM: eb is also up there, I'm wondering if he was following Fish's lead and going after another easy target in Jurs.
bjstrattonIM: He overemphasized the "omg I have no clue who to vote for" bit in his voting post imo

omg I have no clue who to vote for. Seriously though, there's 1 wolf left? I can't ever see the wolves when there's 3, so at this point I'm just gonna sit around until the alliance is like "lol we seered the last guy, kill him!" Until then, I'm gonna like, get to level 51, cuz seriously I dunno. And like, none of you have IMed me. It seems like you're all talking or something and so you have suspicions, but the only person I've talked to is Afro, and that's mostly about MS, and talisman, and he's just asking people for suspicions and I'm like I don't freaking know. Kinda like Guido said in one thread (that guy asking how to be good I think), he's seen as one of the top tier guys but he has no intuition at all, so he's really not even that good. I'm not considered top tier like he is, but you guys know I'm not stupid. You apparently don't realize I have crappy intuition, though. All I can do is work through logic and present strategies, but I think talisman has the logic stuff handled, so I'm gonna continue to do nothing, kthx.

PS: Reading this post as I wrote it, I've realized that I've stopped taking anything seriously. I used kthx and everything, rofl. I should definitely sit some games out until I get back in srs bizniz TWG mode.

**talisman** · 12-4-2005, 06:27 PM

Here's what I want to hear people talk about... on day one, did the third wolf vote with blah (on nforcer), with fish (on jurs), or on someone else (in your opinions)? I've already talked to some people about this, but I want to start a little public discussion on it.

Sorry I wasn't around today on aim... bengals game (who dey) and myst v have been distracting me. I'll be around most likely all tonight. Drop a line on my away message and hopefully I'll see it.

Tps222 · 12-4-2005, 06:55 PM

If I had to guess, I would say with Blah, manily because the evidence of Jurs was incredibly weak. I doubt the wolves would try to disassociate on such a stretch, also, doing it on day 1 seems better to get it out of the way early, before people and alliances get going and associating.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-4-2005, 07:52 PM

i'm with TPS... also with 6 people on nforcer, it could be easy to slip in.

BUT, I know when I'm a wolf I like to have the wolves vote for 3 different people for as long as possible... which would lead to having it be option c) none of the above... aka, voting for neither nforcer or jurs.

**talisman** · 12-5-2005, 10:15 AM

Alright, I'm thinking that hans is the last wolf.

This is based largely on his day one vote. Of the ones on nforcer it seemed most like it was just trying to fit in and seemed the most contrived. (rai's might be an exception, but I felt that rai's late switch would be a retarded move for a wolf to make). It's also based on the fact that in our aim convos he's done some things to make me suspect him... for example coming to me and telling me about why the wolves might have done the pm business and telling me exactly what blah had already told me (and what was already posted). It felt a little like he was trying to get on my good side or something.

Also he sent me an IM yesterday around 8:40 asking me if I had received a psychic report... and the only conceivable reason for that I can think of is that he wants to know the chances that I got to use a seering last night and thus how large the alliance is. I mean, he knows I said it was two wolves yesterday and that we lynched blah, a seered wolf.... so why else would a psychic report be useful?

flypie743 · 12-5-2005, 01:30 PM

Votin' Guide:
Mattc16-1 (Kilgamayan)
Tasselfoot-1 (Afrobean)
HansSky-1 (Talisman)

3 out of 12 people have voted. Deadline is tonight at 9 PM Eastern.

mattc16 · 12-5-2005, 03:52 PM

Just out of interest, has LD posted yet. sorry for the inactivity vote, i know it doesn't look good, but there's a valid reason for all this, i kinda explained it in my last post, but feel free to talk to me on AIM about things whenever.

JurseyRider734 · 12-5-2005, 04:40 PM

mattc that's fucking retarded. You have plenty of time to take 5 minutes and read a thread. No, LD is not active, but you shouldn't vote him for it because a. we have already come to the conclusion that voting for inactive people usually is bad and b. you're doing the same thing yourself. Go back to jTWG.

Also, I agree on the Hans-being-sketchy thing. Kind of something I'm just feeling. He's been very dodgy about talking TWG and hasn't really said anything to me about it like he usually does. I want to hear from him

pls hans baby

Afrobean · 12-5-2005, 04:52 PM

Maybe I missed something. Why do you guys want to lynch matt?

Seems like it's just because he "wouldn't be as much of a loss." That's a terrible reason to lynch someone. Why not vote for someone you think is a wolf?

PS jurs, that was seriously fucking stupid and here's why:

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Originally Posted by jurs

a. we have already come to the conclusion that voting for inactive people usually is bad and b. you're doing the same thing yourself.

c. jurs, you just did the same thing yourself.

Besides, if matt was the last wolf, he wouldn't vote LD and look even more sketchy. He'd vote for Hans or Tass or someone with a vote on them already.

Afrobean · 12-5-2005, 04:59 PM

Oh, by the way:

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Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

Also, I agree on the Hans-being-sketchy thing. Kind of something I'm just feeling. He's been very dodgy about talking TWG and hasn't really said anything to me about it like he usually does. I want to hear from him

You should have voted hans then. Jesus Christ. What were you thinking?

**Tasselfoot** · 12-5-2005, 05:18 PM

Hans. I've talked alot with Talisman over AIM... he's felt Hans is our man, he knows more than me, I trust him.

Hans it is.

Afrobean · 12-5-2005, 05:24 PM

I'm also going to vote hans.

Seriously, though, I don't want to leave it up to these people thinking we should kill matt. Hans, however, does seem like an excellent candidate for a lynching.

**Kilgamayan** · 12-5-2005, 05:25 PM

Whoa Jesus Afro don't do that to me >_>

I was about to vote Hans but if several people are at once I'll hold off for fear of accidentally triggering an insta

You guys don't have anyone else waiting, do you?

**talisman** · 12-5-2005, 05:36 PM

it could be matt, but I don't know... I'm more confident in hans for now. There's the fact that matt's response in the rules violation thread was either really off the cuff brilliant or else it is genuine. Would matt (as a wolf) come up with that on the spot and be the first reply? I don't know, I don't know him that well. His day one vote is somewhat sketchy, and if it's option c, neither jurs nor nforcer, I'd say he'd be near the top of the list in terms of suspicious votes.

The one piece of the puzzle I don't understand is how fish or blah would let their third partner (if it is hans) be so inactive... but maybe that wasn't their doing, I don't know.

Afrobean · 12-5-2005, 05:38 PM

Well... day ends... when? Like 9 tonight, right? I'd say an insta would be beneficial in this instance. Wouldn't want someone with an insta hanging around, now would we?

Well... maybe not now. But soon an insta would be good. Not like we're talking about much anyway.

**Kilgamayan** · 12-5-2005, 06:09 PM

talisman, while it would make sense to do so, there's no guarantee Fish told anyone what he was doing.

12-4-2005, 09:50 AM	#142
mattc16 FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suffolk, England Age: 34 Posts: 524	Interesting kilga. However, if i was a wolf, I'd want to keep people like nick and rai for example around, as they are fairly new to TWG, like me, so I would be hoping they made somekind of slip up which took suspicion off me. apologies to everyone for my inactivity on day 2, a good friend of mine was killed in a car crash last week, and i attended his funeral on friday, so TWG wasn't exactly at the top of my priorities list over this weekend. __________________ Click for great online poker rakeback offers!

12-4-2005, 02:06 PM	#144
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Aww... and to think, it just wouldn't be a day of TWG without Afro coming up with a reason to vote me. __________________ RIP

12-4-2005, 07:52 PM	#148
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	i'm with TPS... also with 6 people on nforcer, it could be easy to slip in. BUT, I know when I'm a wolf I like to have the wolves vote for 3 different people for as long as possible... which would lead to having it be option c) none of the above... aka, voting for neither nforcer or jurs. __________________ RIP

12-5-2005, 01:30 PM	#150
flypie743 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: fairyland Posts: 3,210	Votin' Guide: Mattc16-1 (Kilgamayan) Tasselfoot-1 (Afrobean) HansSky-1 (Talisman) 3 out of 12 people have voted. Deadline is tonight at 9 PM Eastern. __________________ IF YOU ARE THE BOMB YOU WILL CLICK THIS and if you dont, you suck.

12-5-2005, 03:52 PM	#151
mattc16 FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suffolk, England Age: 34 Posts: 524	Just out of interest, has LD posted yet. sorry for the inactivity vote, i know it doesn't look good, but there's a valid reason for all this, i kinda explained it in my last post, but feel free to talk to me on AIM about things whenever. __________________ Click for great online poker rakeback offers!

12-4-2005, 06:27 PM	#146
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Here's what I want to hear people talk about... on day one, did the third wolf vote with blah (on nforcer), with fish (on jurs), or on someone else (in your opinions)? I've already talked to some people about this, but I want to start a little public discussion on it. Sorry I wasn't around today on aim... bengals game (who dey) and myst v have been distracting me. I'll be around most likely all tonight. Drop a line on my away message and hopefully I'll see it.

12-4-2005, 06:55 PM	#147
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 6,167	If I had to guess, I would say with Blah, manily because the evidence of Jurs was incredibly weak. I doubt the wolves would try to disassociate on such a stretch, also, doing it on day 1 seems better to get it out of the way early, before people and alliances get going and associating.

12-5-2005, 10:15 AM	#149
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Alright, I'm thinking that hans is the last wolf. This is based largely on his day one vote. Of the ones on nforcer it seemed most like it was just trying to fit in and seemed the most contrived. (rai's might be an exception, but I felt that rai's late switch would be a retarded move for a wolf to make). It's also based on the fact that in our aim convos he's done some things to make me suspect him... for example coming to me and telling me about why the wolves might have done the pm business and telling me exactly what blah had already told me (and what was already posted). It felt a little like he was trying to get on my good side or something. Also he sent me an IM yesterday around 8:40 asking me if I had received a psychic report... and the only conceivable reason for that I can think of is that he wants to know the chances that I got to use a seering last night and thus how large the alliance is. I mean, he knows I said it was two wolves yesterday and that we lynched blah, a seered wolf.... so why else would a psychic report be useful?

12-5-2005, 05:18 PM	#155
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Hans. I've talked alot with Talisman over AIM... he's felt Hans is our man, he knows more than me, I trust him. Hans it is. __________________ RIP

12-5-2005, 05:24 PM	#156
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	I'm also going to vote hans. Seriously, though, I don't want to leave it up to these people thinking we should kill matt. Hans, however, does seem like an excellent candidate for a lynching. __________________

12-5-2005, 05:25 PM	#157
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	Whoa Jesus Afro don't do that to me >_> I was about to vote Hans but if several people are at once I'll hold off for fear of accidentally triggering an insta You guys don't have anyone else waiting, do you? __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

12-5-2005, 05:36 PM	#158
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	it could be matt, but I don't know... I'm more confident in hans for now. There's the fact that matt's response in the rules violation thread was either really off the cuff brilliant or else it is genuine. Would matt (as a wolf) come up with that on the spot and be the first reply? I don't know, I don't know him that well. His day one vote is somewhat sketchy, and if it's option c, neither jurs nor nforcer, I'd say he'd be near the top of the list in terms of suspicious votes. The one piece of the puzzle I don't understand is how fish or blah would let their third partner (if it is hans) be so inactive... but maybe that wasn't their doing, I don't know.

12-5-2005, 05:38 PM	#159
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Well... day ends... when? Like 9 tonight, right? I'd say an insta would be beneficial in this instance. Wouldn't want someone with an insta hanging around, now would we? Well... maybe not now. But soon an insta would be good. Not like we're talking about much anyway. __________________

12-5-2005, 06:09 PM	#160
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	talisman, while it would make sense to do so, there's no guarantee Fish told anyone what he was doing. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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