Question about FFR Rank

XBmaster · 06-22-2007, 04:26 PM

I just recently decided to go through and play all of the songs I could to try and get my overall rank up, but it seems like it should be higher.

I'm currently at around 22,000. The only reason I think it should be lower is that because all but a few of my scores are ranked under 16,000 and the majority are under 10,000. (I'm using FFR - Level Rank Stats for this info)

I'm not sure how exactly the rank is calculated and it seems like I'm missing something, so that's why I posted on the newbie forum.

Any light you can shed on the rank or why it works out this way would be appreciated.

Thanks

Noah

EDIT:

I just thought of something. Are Credits, Games Played, and Multiplayer level used in FFR Rank calculations, or is it just Your Grand Total?

**blindreper1179** · 06-22-2007, 04:42 PM

grand total is just your total points.

nothing missing. those are your ranks on each song. and then averaged out.

XBmaster · 06-22-2007, 04:50 PM

That's what I thought, but if you averaged all of the ranks on my individual songs it would come out to some number below 10,000. I know it wouldn't be exact because different songs are worth different points, but it seems like it would be close, rather than about 12,000 off like mine is.

**blindreper1179** · 06-22-2007, 04:53 PM

if you added the ranks of each song and divided by the number of songs there, you should get the same average rank as the site.

Engler · 06-22-2007, 04:54 PM

You grand total is the only factor for deciding your overall rank. For example if Sue has played 500 games and sucks, while Joe has played 50 games and is amazing, Sue will have a better rank than Joe, although Joe is far better at FFR than Sue is. Does that answer your question?

XBmaster · 06-22-2007, 05:08 PM

blindreper1179 - Assuming average rank is the same thing as FFR Rank, which is what I'm talking about, then you can't be right because three songs are above my FFR Rank and the other 300+ are below it, so the average would be far below my FFR Rank.

Engler - your answer makes sense, but how would I go about getting my Grand Total up if I've already played every song. (I know you're probably going to say get a better score on them, but like I said, most of mine are already in the top 10,000)

I do appreciate the responses and sorry if I sound mean, I'm terrible at composing elegant posts when it's hard to convey what I'm really attempting to communicate to you all.

Noah

**Doug31** · 06-22-2007, 05:12 PM

You can up your grand total by playing songs you've already played additional times. Even if your old best is 1,000,000, and you score 900,000, it still adds 900,000 to your grand total score.

XBmaster · 06-22-2007, 05:16 PM

Thank you very very much Doug31

It all makes sense now.

So FFR Rank really just decides who plays the most, rather than who's the best. I'm not sure if I agree with that approach, but at least I understand it now.

Is there a way to see Grand total for just the top score on each song, because that's what I'm really interested in.

Thanks again to everyone

Noah

AriesMalvis · 06-22-2007, 05:44 PM

yea...that's why they created the tier system
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=64820

FalcoLombardi · 06-22-2007, 06:03 PM

i hate the tier system and it hates me lol

**blindreper1179** · 06-22-2007, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XBmaster

Is there a way to see Grand total for just the top score on each song, because that's what I'm really interested in.

no, but that would be interesting. and sorry for not understanding you.

**Doug31** · 06-22-2007, 06:33 PM

Yes there is. Go here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelrank.php copy your level rank stats from there, paste them into excel, then have it sum up that whole column, and see what it comes up with.

XBmaster · 06-22-2007, 06:39 PM

That Tier system is absurd, but I guess it does show who's the best.

Thanks for all your help

EDIT (after missing Doug31's post):
That would give you the total, but what I really want to see is it compared to other users, because a number by itself doesn't really mean anything to me.

**Doug31** · 06-22-2007, 06:44 PM

Well, there's a thread that shows the best average rank of users, not their highest score on each song added up, but it's really pretty similar, since better score=better rank. To see this thread, go here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=65834 Be warned that the list there is of only the very best players in terms of average rank, so don't feel bad if you don't measure up to them.

XBmaster · 06-22-2007, 07:14 PM

Thanks for that link, it's pretty much what I was looking for. I noticed that the average rank is at the bottom of the level ranks page and currently I'm at 3812.4, but that should be getting lower and lower in the coming days, weeks, whenever. With this method, it seems that AAA's really boost it up, so I'm going to go back and do some easier songs to get those AAA's.

Thanks

L[][]K · 06-22-2007, 07:27 PM

The rank is based on your Grand Total for all your played song's scores combined. So being number 1 on the FFR rank page does not make you the best, it merely shows that you play a lot of FFR and/or have no life. lol

06-22-2007, 04:26 PM	#1
XBmaster FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 324	Question about FFR Rank I just recently decided to go through and play all of the songs I could to try and get my overall rank up, but it seems like it should be higher. I'm currently at around 22,000. The only reason I think it should be lower is that because all but a few of my scores are ranked under 16,000 and the majority are under 10,000. (I'm using FFR - Level Rank Stats for this info) I'm not sure how exactly the rank is calculated and it seems like I'm missing something, so that's why I posted on the newbie forum. Any light you can shed on the rank or why it works out this way would be appreciated. Thanks Noah EDIT: I just thought of something. Are Credits, Games Played, and Multiplayer level used in FFR Rank calculations, or is it just Your Grand Total? Last edited by XBmaster; 06-22-2007 at 04:28 PM.. Reason: New thoughts

06-22-2007, 04:50 PM	#3
XBmaster FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 324	Re: Question about FFR Rank That's what I thought, but if you averaged all of the ranks on my individual songs it would come out to some number below 10,000. I know it wouldn't be exact because different songs are worth different points, but it seems like it would be close, rather than about 12,000 off like mine is.

06-22-2007, 04:54 PM	#5
Engler FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CNY Age: 31 Posts: 2,339	Re: Question about FFR Rank You grand total is the only factor for deciding your overall rank. For example if Sue has played 500 games and sucks, while Joe has played 50 games and is amazing, Sue will have a better rank than Joe, although Joe is far better at FFR than Sue is. Does that answer your question? __________________

06-22-2007, 05:08 PM	#6
XBmaster FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 324	Re: Question about FFR Rank blindreper1179 - Assuming average rank is the same thing as FFR Rank, which is what I'm talking about, then you can't be right because three songs are above my FFR Rank and the other 300+ are below it, so the average would be far below my FFR Rank. Engler - your answer makes sense, but how would I go about getting my Grand Total up if I've already played every song. (I know you're probably going to say get a better score on them, but like I said, most of mine are already in the top 10,000) I do appreciate the responses and sorry if I sound mean, I'm terrible at composing elegant posts when it's hard to convey what I'm really attempting to communicate to you all. Noah

06-22-2007, 05:12 PM	#7
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Question about FFR Rank You can up your grand total by playing songs you've already played additional times. Even if your old best is 1,000,000, and you score 900,000, it still adds 900,000 to your grand total score. __________________

06-22-2007, 05:16 PM	#8
XBmaster FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 324	Re: Question about FFR Rank Thank you very very much Doug31 It all makes sense now. So FFR Rank really just decides who plays the most, rather than who's the best. I'm not sure if I agree with that approach, but at least I understand it now. Is there a way to see Grand total for just the top score on each song, because that's what I'm really interested in. Thanks again to everyone Noah

06-22-2007, 05:44 PM	#9
AriesMalvis FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,345	Re: Question about FFR Rank yea...that's why they created the tier system http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=64820 __________________

06-22-2007, 06:03 PM	#10
FalcoLombardi FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 360	Re: Question about FFR Rank i hate the tier system and it hates me lol __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence..." - Vince Lombardi

06-22-2007, 06:33 PM	#12
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Question about FFR Rank Yes there is. Go here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelrank.php copy your level rank stats from there, paste them into excel, then have it sum up that whole column, and see what it comes up with. __________________

06-22-2007, 06:39 PM	#13
XBmaster FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 324	Re: Question about FFR Rank That Tier system is absurd, but I guess it does show who's the best. Thanks for all your help EDIT (after missing Doug31's post): That would give you the total, but what I really want to see is it compared to other users, because a number by itself doesn't really mean anything to me. Last edited by XBmaster; 06-22-2007 at 06:41 PM..

06-22-2007, 06:44 PM	#14
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Question about FFR Rank Well, there's a thread that shows the best average rank of users, not their highest score on each song added up, but it's really pretty similar, since better score=better rank. To see this thread, go here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=65834 Be warned that the list there is of only the very best players in terms of average rank, so don't feel bad if you don't measure up to them. __________________

06-22-2007, 07:14 PM	#15
XBmaster FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 324	Re: Question about FFR Rank Thanks for that link, it's pretty much what I was looking for. I noticed that the average rank is at the bottom of the level ranks page and currently I'm at 3812.4, but that should be getting lower and lower in the coming days, weeks, whenever. With this method, it seems that AAA's really boost it up, so I'm going to go back and do some easier songs to get those AAA's. Thanks

06-22-2007, 07:27 PM	#16
L[][]K FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United States of America Age: 33 Posts: 180	Re: Question about FFR Rank The rank is based on your Grand Total for all your played song's scores combined. So being number 1 on the FFR rank page does not make you the best, it merely shows that you play a lot of FFR and/or have no life. lol __________________ L[][]k's Unofficial FFR Tournament Join Now!

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