Um, why was 'bag' changed?

**Goldenwind** · 02-22-2007, 05:21 PM

DDR Extreme and Stepmania agree that it's a Chaos-heavy song, and the definition of Chaos applies.

SuperNova, however, says it has about 4/10 Voltage, 4/10 Chaos, and 9-10/10 Stream.

lol? Why?

rel89 · 02-22-2007, 05:47 PM

Because Ex and SM are stupid.

**Goldenwind** · 02-22-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rel89

Because Ex and SM are stupid.

The arbitrary definition of "Chaos" are notes that don't occur on the beat (Not 4ths, not 8ths)

Songs like Insertion, bag, Tsugaru and Tino's White Horse all demonstrate this, through gallops, or other such offbeat notes.

And now you come here and tell me it happens because it's stupid.

What I'm getting at is, was the definition of Chaos changed when Supernova came out?

Also, why does Sakura *still* show the wrong BPM? (Really 27-320, but DDR Ex and DDR SN show 14-300)

rel89 · 02-22-2007, 05:55 PM

I'm sorry. I was just kidding.
Are you talking about the arcade versions?

**Goldenwind** · 02-22-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rel89

I'm sorry. I was just kidding.
Are you talking about the arcade versions?

Yes.

Stepmania, and the Extreme arcade machine both agree, displaying 'bag' as a song that is top-heavy in Chaos, and medium in Voltage/Stream.

SuperNova displays 'bag' as top-heavy in Stream, medium in Voltage/Chaos.

And I still don't get the Sakura thing.

rel89 · 02-22-2007, 05:59 PM

They probably got lazy or there were different producers for both games.

**Loyal2Death** · 02-22-2007, 09:57 PM

I was under the impression that Chaos was the types of patterns of the notes. IE Tons of crossovers etc.

~-[L2D]-~

**Shashakiro** · 02-22-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Loyal2Death

I was under the impression that Chaos was the types of patterns of the notes. IE Tons of crossovers etc.

~-[L2D]-~

Nope, Chaos just means the density of notes that aren't 4ths or 8ths.

That's why So Deep has a huge Chaos meter, even though I wouldn't exactly call the file chaotic.

ddr_f4n · 02-22-2007, 10:11 PM

It was like that in Supernova? I never noticed that. I should check that out next time.

**Goldenwind** · 02-22-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ddr_f4n

It was like that in Supernova? I never noticed that. I should check that out next time.

The song "Chaos"? It's really not that chaotic. All they did was compose the song of 16th notes, all spaced apart the same distance as 4ths (Aka Yellow-Note-Symdrome). A few places it switches to Orange (32nds) and such. In my opinion, this is just a cheap way to up the meter a bit. The real difficulty is in the stops.

Hence another reason that proves what Chaos (The rating) is.

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UberMario · 02-23-2007, 04:25 AM

I didn't notice the typo until the very last picture of it.

**Goldenwind** · 02-23-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UberMario

I didn't notice the typo until the very last picture of it.

Same here. Damn you iPatch, lmao
First I say Snarpnel, now Symdrome. Sigh.

I'm going to have to start spell-checking my posts. You have to admit, I type better than *most* people. =P Not all.

nforcer06164 · 02-23-2007, 11:46 AM

I believe Extreme and SuperNOVA are written on different engines. It might be a glitch, or just a different interpretation, updated on the machine.

Stepmania does not hold a place here because the groove gauge on Stepmania is modeled after Extreme's groove gauge.

rel89 · 02-23-2007, 04:02 PM

I like how iPatcH is such a retard.. XDD

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