TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[meno_rocks123]

Playing rocket league, will refute soontm.

[meno_rocks123]

I made a bunch of tuna pinwheels and I ate them all and I feel like puking right now so I'm going to quickly cherry pick on you. Rest assured that you haven't convinced me.

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

What does Aryxi dying while thinking he's pink change? If he were Chaos Wolf, he'd have to choose his color after dying, and Aryxi COULD NOT HAVE CHOSEN PINK.

Chaos wolf doesn't choose death colour at death time. It's chosen earlier. That would be such a sequence break, waiting for the chaos wolf to choose their flip colour at eod/eon.

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

e) the reasoning for the above lies in Xel's flip. If Xel was vigi, then the chances of no N0 nightkill are incredibly low. Therefore, he must either have chaos wolfed (unlikely considering he was lynched), or a wolf himself.

A N1 vigi would be a stupid move. You have triple the odds of nailing a human over a wolf. Better to wait at least until N2 and then take N3 off to recharge.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I'm now nearly 100% that the last wolf is in Haku/meno.
I would still like to see more from Raeko (her brief return earlier did little to assuage my concern of her being UTR), but I'm pretty confident it isn't her.

What do you want from me dude? People need to stop being scared of me being "UTR" and need to focus on what has actually been posted. I'm not the most active poster in the thread and that is never going to be me, ever, but it doesn't automatically mean I have been UTR.

I know it's impossible for me to prove to you but I do think it's important that you focus your attention elsewhere. Despite the other player's eagerness to just lynch two people and be done I'd still rather avoid a mislynch so the wolf has less control over the next phase if the game does continue

Anyways I've been waiting to reread this phase in a quiet and undistracted environment so I'll be doing that this afternoon and I'll share any thoughts I have.

I wish V would show up more. He's our confirmed human and his input would be really valuable. I really liked a few of the points he made about Jrodd. V come on don't let us down now in the home stretch ;_;

[Vendetta21]

it's between hakulyte and shado imo that's what i think

[Vendetta21]

i'd kill hakulyte here

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

i'd kill hakulyte here

Okie. Would you mind expanding on this post a bit more from yesterday?

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

oh yeah im pretty sure its hakulyte he took the bait yesterday

[Hakulyte]

Yeah, I want to hear about my super secret master plan that makes all my other wolf games look pathetic in comparison.

[Hakulyte]

Going to vote ShadoWolfe once again like the impatient and nervous wolf that I am and claim heresy for anyone else that thinks differently.

tl;dr: I want to see my world win or gets broken this phase so you can debate all you want about chaos wolf being the real thing in F3. If it reaches F3, you have two more flips to use as well for this.

I don't regret the insta on jrodd.
I want to believe in what Sunfan said yesterday with clearing raeko.
I prefer to clear meno over Shado because pocketing me as wolf at this point is kinda crazy imo.
V simply seems off from the game, but based on flips/claims etc. he's cleared fmpov so he's not an issue.

I strongly believe Shado is simply tryharding and waiting for me to continue to throw weak arguments until I look bad enough to be considered.

Good luck with F3 if I'm wrong, but I do believe this ends the game.

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Okie. Would you mind expanding on this post a bit more from yesterday?

no i want to see other peoples thoughts

[Hakulyte]

ps: I expected this phase to end in the first 30 minutes or so. That's how badly I was convinced.

[Vendetta21]

you're getting all worked up calm down and go over your case slowly, taking a deep breath every few seconds, and explain it to me

[Hakulyte]

1. ShadoWolfe called that I could have been the only person responsible of AA's death without me saying anything about having AA picked as my Adversary.

This call doesn't make sense because

A) Other players can NK AA.
B) It's extremely odd for me that he would know about my night action unless he's the player who chosen me for his night action.

2. ShadoWolfe was fine with getting lynched yesterday, but he's not fine anymore about getting lynched.

What changed? jrodd flipped. That's another flag. I think we broke his agenda with the jrodd insta.

3. ShadoWolfe said that Xiz looked genuine during D3 at the end of the phase.

I cannot buy this regardless of him saying that he didn't read the claim with Aryxi because Xiz has been strange all along since the end of D0.

[Vendetta21]

aight

[Vendetta21]

can i get a quote on 1.)

[Vendetta21]

don't see how 2.) makes sense

[Vendetta21]

he was on the insta -- you aren't drawing any reasonable lines here

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Don't take Haku off there just yet. He's gone down next to Meno on mine, just cause I can't see anyone else making the AA kill.
My list (and I'm fairly confident this will prove accurate) is

ShadoWolfe
Vendetta
thesunfan
j-rodd
Raeko
HAKU
Meno

This game is basically locked at this point. One wolf left, two lock-clears. Just work your way up the list and it's GG
I'd bet good money last wolf is in meno/haku. Raeko possible but unlikely. j-rodd nearing lock status himself at this point.

Sure.

[Vendetta21]

agree with 3.)

[Hakulyte]

#1878 is as good as it will get for me with this game in terms of explaining in detail what is going on.

[Hakulyte]

The only way to break this world is with chaos wolf.

If chaos wolf doesn't exist, I'm right.

The odds are worth trying imo.