jTWG LXXXIII Game Thread

[star-crossed]

OK "doesn't make sense" is not the greatest restating of "doesn't seem genuine" fair enough. But "why not both" is not a good excuse because of your tone.

[Wayward Vagabond]

It feels like you're dismissing me and my suspicion on you because I'm not town reading you the way my post lead you to believe

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

But "why not both" is not a good excuse because of your tone.

This is the second time in a row you've misquoted me because I never said "why not both". I said "you know it can be both" and then explained myself. "Why not both" while not very different word wise is hugely different when it comes to intention. It's like you're trying to make me come off as worse than i should. Sure I admit that saying those two things seem to contradict each other but I don't think they do because they aren't entirely connected

[Wayward Vagabond]

I feel stupid arguing small things like that but it bugs me that you're doing it when I don't feel like you're the kind of person I'd expect to do it

[Charu]

I've read everything up to here, but I wanna address this post.

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Hey charu on a scale of 1-10 how invested are you in this game

FFA and star also addressed, but WV is asking how invested I actually feel.

...Probably a 2

[Charu]

If it means anything though, I still don't think you're wolfin', your posting a lot of thoughts and putting pieces together. It reminds me of the, coincidentally as you said later, the last jTWG that happened where you took some of the reign.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Charu

I've read everything up to here, but I wanna address this post.



FFA and star also addressed, but WV is asking how invested I actually feel.

...Probably a 2

Huh?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

In my mind, a difference between how townspeople think and act, versus how the wolves do, is that wolves have more information on how they should vote and behave to meet their goals. Because of that, I am leaning that Jessie choosing not to vote for jefanno, is something she is a lot more likely to do as a town who is feeling overwhelmed. (It does remind me of behavior I mistakenly suspected someone else for, in another game, but I am doing my best to argue this in terms of stuff that is more accessible to everybody). I am keeping in mind that if Jessie is town, it is her first time having to figure out how to navigate an end of day time from a town perspective, which is part of why it makes more sense to me if she is not a wolf. So it is my opinion we were on the totally wrong track yesterday and neither of the people with multiple votes on them were wolves.

I would like to know everybody's thoughts on this, though especially funnygurl's.

Oh, my thoughts pretty much gonna echo. She didn't self preserve or anything of the sort, but then again it was like... 3 minutes until the day officially ended, no? Anyways, a wolf pulling that off seems super reckless so I'm gonna dismiss her from here on unless I want to go down that route that maybe she knew when she saw inDheart that she had the potential to be toast, but RNG was on her side and now she's off the hook scot free.

I can see it anyways... I've seen players do just that in Mafia Universe. I don't know if I ever seen anyone here on FFR gamble like that, but it's a gamble that can seriously have the wolves get a free pass for a few phases. Like I said though, I'll hang this up and assume that's not what's going on for a bit until I need to consider it.

...

Also, just to reiterate regarding antori, just to cement my stance on him.

As I said, I think antori is town specifically due to being finally pressured by yours truly to vote. He picked from his "most suspicious" list and he voted for the wagon. This may be meta gaming a bit and it could totally kick me in the rump, but I want to say his vote in the final few minutes was probably a town being bullied into a vote instead of a scared wolf since wolves have day chat enabled.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Huh?

Yeah, you wished I said something more serious than something joking like having fur, dohoho.

[Charu]

So yeah, this is my town team at the moment.

Wayward Vagabond
jessiebessie
antori

[Charu]

Is it bad to say I literally think if we lynch from these three only

star-crossed
Funnygurl555
flashflash account

That the game is pretty much over?

[Charu]

Heyooooooo, PoE is awesome in such a low number setup, lol

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charu

Is it bad to say I literally think if we lynch from these three only

star-crossed
Funnygurl555
flashflash account

That the game is pretty much over?

Wanna add that if the game is not over here and only one of them is a wolf.

Lynch jessie

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Charu

Is it bad to say I literally think if we lynch from these three only

star-crossed
Funnygurl555
flashflash account

That the game is pretty much over?

Yes, in a town loss.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

This is the second time in a row you've misquoted me because I never said "why not both". I said "you know it can be both" and then explained myself. "Why not both" while not very different word wise is hugely different when it comes to intention. It's like you're trying to make me come off as worse than i should. Sure I admit that saying those two things seem to contradict each other but I don't think they do because they aren't entirely connected

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I feel stupid arguing small things like that but it bugs me that you're doing it when I don't feel like you're the kind of person I'd expect to do it

I mean, I do not think those are much different sentiments at all. The thread is public record, so it would be silly to do that to "make [you] come off worse than [you] should." It is just happening that way because I feel passionate and am replying furiously. But so you will actually address my points and not that, I will just stick to directly quoting you.

So let me try to explain again. So firstly you seemed to not understand what I was getting at. Then you seemed to have a reaction that was over-the-top positive and I thought was trying to appease me basically. Then in your reads, you claimed your real reaction was something completely different, and mostly of scrutiny. It's not illogical for you to both think my perspective was interesting, and also to be suspicious, which is what you are arguing I am saying. But what I am actually saying, is that the manner in which you have explained these two reactions, sounds really disingenuous and fake. If you had just said like "huh I wouldn't have thought of that" and then posted something critical, it would not be weird. But the disparate-ness of the two reactions, makes it seem like your supposed suspicion of me protecting ffa is something you only came up with during the readwall as something you could use as reasoning against me, and are pretending is something you really believe.

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

You know it can be both right? I wasn't thinking about the inconsistency the way you were and when you brought it up it did open my eyes to what the motives behind the questions are. That doesn't mean that I can't find it suspicious that you're trying to make it sound like I'm seer hunting maybe to divert attention that I'm bringing to ffa. I also never said that it didn't make sense to me so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

I actually have the same problem with this post. As far as I can tell "it did open my eyes to what the motives behind the questions are" is an empty rhetorical statement. Because you are having trouble faking a consistent mind frame to present to us.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Yes, in a town loss.

So those other two I have in are not wolves either?

I saw you not liking Wayward's disposition and have voted for him. Could you go in more detail of your mistrust?

[star-crossed]

Don't we only get 3 more chances to hang somebody..?

[Charu]

Okay, I read above.

Guess I'll give WV's post a critical read...

[Charu]

So long story short, star, you believe you caught WV in a tone contradiction when he went from

"I didn't think about that, thanks!"

to

"You questioning me about this felt defensive."

Am I understanding this right?

[Funnygurl555]

jess isn't doing the thing where she fakes attempting to solve the game to seem townie and detract attention from herself, which is the basis of my town read on her. if i'm wrong, then that'll hurt. i think it's unlikely and won't be voting for her in a while, though. also, she was working on an app for something all day, so it makes sense why she was away from the game for today too

as for me "dipping" instead of interacting today, honestly i was having the shittiest day, so i slept early. you guys decided to interact itt while i was asleep/avoiding the thread to not be a pissy person