TWG 202 - GAME THREAD

[lurker]

i am going to die when ffa reappears, is anyone out there who would like to ask me stuff

[star-crossed]

unvote

[T-Force]

VOTE COUNT
lurker: 2 - FreezinIce (460), Hakulyte (491),
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Hakulyte: 1 - lurker (492)
XelNya: 1 - flashflash account (494)
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Unvote - star-crossed (522)
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Yet to vote - roundbox, XelNya

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[flashflash account]

Does xel lurker make sense

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Does xel lurker make sense

If you're speculating based on the separation then maybe?

I guess in a scenario where my tilting is slank, and then I let them get nightkilled for some reason instead of just being an interaction farm based on the FEW posts from earlier?

But that'd be shaky I think? I don't make sense for the storn kill either?

Lurker's been gone so long, I don't really have a fair comment for this in his perspective.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

If you're speculating based on the separation then maybe?

I guess in a scenario where my tilting is slank, and then I let them get nightkilled for some reason instead of just being an interaction farm based on the FEW posts from earlier?

But that'd be shaky I think? I don't make sense for the storn kill either?

Lurker's been gone so long, I don't really have a fair comment for this in his perspective.

"them" being bugkid btw

[star-crossed]

I haven't seen freezin wolf yet and in the past I often would lean on sunfam for that.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I dont think starcrossed or roundbox are wolfing, they giving off the same tired town vibe to me.

FFA is kinda doing his own thing it seems like, but thats how he usually plays not sure if thats wolfy or not at this point. I might have to crib a read here from someone else

I want more from xel before eod

Same for lurker too i guess

Haku seems ok but i can kick the can down the road a bit till im 100% sure.

Thats where i am so far. 3 town core could be possible by eod depending on how much activity there is.

lurker i want more stuff to follow up that post i answered

This was an interesting vote choice, because Freezin is somebody who is especially caring about interactions. Sometimes he likes to 1v1 people for info, even. FFA is someone he is unsure on, and was available to pressure, and yet he ends up voting for lurker, even after defending lurker. I am interpreting this as kind of wanting to side with Haku's solve of the game, rather than self-determine his focus.

It might also be notable that he seems to feel best about roundbox after what he had just said about his process on trying to read roundbox

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I mean, they really don't explain if they were just given the impostor role (and) given the chance to do the equivalent of a N0 kill.

There's even a world where the host might have randomized a kill on storn, but that feels just illogical.

If someone could kill storn N1 and were wolfing D0 then this setup is just confusing for no reason afaik.

I can see a scenario where this is a slip (inb4 roundbox)

I guess the more charitable interpretation is that the site going down is the source of the confusion here

[XelNya]

haku

[star-crossed]

I still don't get why the "voting when you won't be here for end of day" thing is such a crux of lurker's suspicion of Haku. Your expected alternative is for a TWG player to not vote for two full game days? Am I missing something?

You also had mentioned you're not using meta, but Haku voted while missing every end of day in Excite11, the previous TWG.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I did myself a favor and reread
the biggest tonal shift from pre-d0 to post-d0 has to be Xel on two factors:
-post volume
-solving/deducing

I have seen the solving/deducing from Xel in these most recent posts, sure, but there really wasn't much of it elsewhere last phase or until right now this phase
even when Xel made posts yesterday, they weren't really advancing anything and he didn't even have a vote

I'm surprised to see my play considered as a "coasting" wolf when I'm the 3rd highest postcount in the game (I'm only calling this out for your use of the word coasting)

I think that you can be looked at as coasting because you could be leading more (or maybe not, because you are sick), and because you haven't been under much pressure

[star-crossed]

I'm not typically a proponent of info lynching, but Xel's commentary from day end does put into perspective that if Haku is not hanged today, then that can mean that we are choosing to lean into the view that it was TvT yesterday, and that if there is division on that, then can be dangerous

I know that I have to figure out where I land on the lurker and Haku issue (which is not to say it has to be WvT). My interpretation of both of them is still just really unstable. Know that I'm trying and I know I have less than an hour

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

In general I actually feel the opposite
Wolves are less likely to touch the t/t wagons
What about xel (and technically freezin although they simply voted late) makes you think town here? Overall they don't have strong impressions on me

Someone mentioned star/lurker wagons cropping up as misdirection which I thought was lol but I can't remember who brought that up

It was roundbox; does that matter?

[lurker]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

I still don't get why the "voting when you won't be here for end of day" thing is such a crux of lurker's suspicion of Haku. Your expected alternative is for a TWG player to not vote for two full game days? Am I missing something?

i expect someone not to RNG a vote that they aren't guaranteed to be able to change
i expect someone not the switch that vote when their """explanation""" is quoting the player in question and responding to it with "this game is about me"
i expect someone not to place extremely poorly thought out votes multiple times when there are zero phantoms
i expect someone not to say "i knew that the player i voted for had time constraints like mine that would make it difficult for them to play" but otherwise not express remorse for getting a crewmate rng'd

am i supposed to give them permission to vote in this phase? is that what you're saying? because if so then they're totally fine to place an incorrect vote on me after at least trying to back it up at the start of this phase

Originally Posted by star-crossed

You also had mentioned you're not using meta

correct

[lurker]

not to* switch

[T-Force]

VOTE COUNT
lurker: 2 - FreezinIce (460), Hakulyte (491)
Hakulyte: 2 - lurker (492), XelNya (529)
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XelNya: 1 - flashflash account (494)
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Unvote - star-crossed (522)
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Yet to vote - roundbox

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[roundbox]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

It was roundbox; does that matter?

I reacted like that because FFA had practically zero progression on lurker and his vote calling for other people to join him at the other day just said "spicy wagon time"

here, look at these two posts plus his vote. that's all he said about lurker last phase before last-minute switching to hateandhatred

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Now that you mention it there I assume dit was just force being busy because of the phase extension and stuff

I'm going to just assume d0 is irrelevant
Star seems fine for today
Haku not only acting weird but also weird in a different way than yesterday

Less sure on lurker rn

Originally Posted by flashflash account

What is lurker based on
I liked them yesterday but not as much today

Originally Posted by flashflash account

lurker spicy wagon time

he's just said "I'm less sure" about lurker. he asked me why I had the lurker read I did, but it looks like FFA missed it in a previous post of mine here:

Originally Posted by roundbox

I'm liking lurkers recent posts, specifically the stuff against Haku. I think the statement about straight up following FFA yesterday is such a weird line of attachment to openly place on yourself. I want to be critical of the xel vote too but I'm assuming the vote was just for voting's sake

[roundbox]

not indicating suspicion on FFA at this point for what it's worth

[roundbox]

this game is so weird

[flashflash account]

I'm split between two worlds rn
Lurker rbx has a lot of partner equity
Xel/freezin is very clean and explains a lot of thread state issues haku is having