TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[Wayward Vagabond]

why would freezin being the only town read be important now

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

I feel Soundwave is a push away from partners.

I can almost see a scenario of Xel/Soundwave/you as a trio
but I wouldn't go to vegas with a bet like that.


I think soundwave was shady in the minds of many and that post was more just a... un-objectable stance. That might just be me not buying the soundwave=town thought, but hey.

[Celirra]

I think if anything can be made of Xel's read lists, it's that one of his town leans is a wolf playing the "deep wolf" (remember that term used by someone?) game. I'm gonna go over and think long and hard about the people there, including myself because I'm pretty narcissistic and times and enjoy self-thought.

[Tokzic]

i need to do some mass review, the probable interpretation of last eod is that wolves piled on me but xel being vanilla makes me think there was at least a little bussing

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

why would freezin being the only town read be important now

If the wolves listened to Xel, that'll limit who is partners are imo.

[tiloco217]

@Lar I'm curious why you stopped evaluating the votes on Xel at Manti. What do you think about DBP and Tokzic going on it?

@WV I appreciate you actually posting. You said you were going to reread day1 so do you have any insight on that?

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Xiz

If it helps clarify it wasn't that defense that I factored in. It's the straight up imitative to make those reads I quoted out of nowhere. While no, you are not lock clear I see no reason why you should die today.

this doesn't make sense did you mean something else other than imitative

so does town just mean least likely to want to kill or someone who shouldn't be killed?

[tiloco217]

I think Tokzic is a lot more likely to be town after that eod. Mostly because I think that the Xel vote has a lot of town on it so most of the mafia were probably in Tokzic's wagon

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Tl;dr

I truly believe Tokzic is bussing Xel here.

how good do you think i am at this game :thinking:

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

i need to do some mass review, the probable interpretation of last eod is that wolves piled on me but xel being vanilla makes me think there was at least a little bussing

i think the only reason wolves wouldn't be on you (or just in general off xel) is if you exactly are some wolf PR, and xel not trying to self pres is what's freaking me out there even if you are one of his townreads

i don't think he's referring to you with the shit tier town thing

i forgot that freezin was xel's top town and in his own tier; that might have contributed to him dying

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

@Lar I'm curious why you stopped evaluating the votes on Xel at Manti. What do you think about DBP and Tokzic going on it?

@WV I appreciate you actually posting. You said you were going to reread day1 so do you have any insight on that?

working on it

[Celirra]

Honestly I don't think a ton can be gained from the Freezin nightkill, I've been thinking it over for a bit now, and I couldn't think of a scenario when any other town would be killed, unless Tiloco really is blue, or if some kind of guardian is in play (which again, I have my doubts about).

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

Tokzic's Completely Fucking Arbitrary List of Players Who Started With High Activity Then Dropped Off D0

- Xiz
- Xel
- dbp
- blind

what if this is just the wolf team

[Celirra]

tokzic if that's the wolf team I'll buy you a 12 pack of beer and lend you my couch for a week


Would you be willing to elaborate a bit more yet?

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

this doesn't make sense did you mean something else other than imitative

so does town just mean least likely to want to kill or someone who shouldn't be killed?

*initiative - autocorrect

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

I think Tokzic is a lot more likely to be town after that eod. Mostly because I think that the Xel vote has a lot of town on it so most of the mafia were probably in Tokzic's wagon

I disagree with tokzic being more towny. The interactions and lack of depth between Xel and Tokzic from the multiple posts I quoted show a lack of thought evolution and reasoning as to what tokzic thought about xel

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Xiz

*initiative - autocorrect

that makes a hell of a lot more sense. to be honest i didn't think making claims on who i think is wolf that big of a deal but i guess i thought wrong.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i think the only reason wolves wouldn't be on you (or just in general off xel) is if you exactly are some wolf PR, and xel not trying to self pres is what's freaking me out there even if you are one of his townreads

Good point. I can absolutely see xelnya sacrificing himself for tokzic if tokzic is a more important wolf.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by Celirra

.......unless Tiloco really is blue, or if some kind of guardian is in play (which again, I have my doubts about).

2nd time you have said this. Any particular reasoning as to why?

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by Xiz

2nd time you have said this. Any particular reasoning as to why?

Reasons for doubting Tiloco as blue: I'll doubt until I have reason to believe, and if he has some info to report back on or at least makes good use of it.

Reasons for doubting guardian: If it's a one-shot kind of guardian then that's fair, but honestly... I have trouble thinking of a better d0 guardian target than Roundbox, who wasn't saved. That's just my own take on it though, unless I'm missing someone else who might've been guarded d0.