TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

*bangs on the table like a baby wanting juice* Lynch V!!

What's the rush? There's like 36 hours left in the phase.
Normally I'd assume you're attempting to push a mislynch here, but ya know..confirmed town an all.

[roundbox]

Man nice development on those reads Red Blaster, you really have this scum crew nailed

[thesunfan]

Votecount:
red blaster (3)- rzr, charu, choof
Charu (2)- DBP, V
V (2)- plop, Rex
Xel (2)- round, AA

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

What's the rush? There's like 36 hours left in the phase.
Normally I'd assume you're attempting to push a mislynch here, but ya know..confirmed town an all.

Why the fuck wait and waste time? What's the point in waiting for EOD to do work? Wanna know what happens when town doesn't do work and EOD hits? People vote like morons and we end up with a mislynch. Ymia and YoshL must be rolling in their graves watching half of town afk or dick around

[AragakiAyase]

V, Xel, or RB?

[rzr]

is anyone even here anymore? I have a big post written up and I explained a lot more of my work, I wanna add some tags so it's easier for you guys to read but I feel pretty confident saying Red Blaster/Xel team is 100% in my face. Not so much their interactions that make them teammates (which I still say I've found), but I still find both of them extremely wolfy. I hate how plop was digging on Zenith because I was seeing him towny, but I think there's something to notice that I think he was targetting V and now plop says V is scum, so I want to give Rex a day. Post coming now

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

V, Xel, or RB?

I think the Red Blaster lynch will yield the most/best info. Xel hasn't given us anything to work with, I'll comb V/RB interactoins

[AragakiAyase]

I'm here and I'm annoyed at a few people who clearly aren't trying

namely xel and RB

charu is fucking around but some people say that's normal so idk

and then V clearly doesn't WIM so there's that

[rzr]

though don't get me wrong I've maintained I think Xel is a wolf too, he just hasn't given us much. RB has given a contradictory reads list that, if/when he flips scum would be very incriminating to others esp given interactions

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm here and I'm annoyed at a few people who clearly aren't trying

namely xel and RB

charu is fucking around but some people say that's normal so idk

and then V clearly doesn't WIM so there's that

Do you think choof is putting in his normal amount of work?
Do you think DBP could be a wolf?
I'm ttrying to get this post out now lol it's all in there

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

Do you think choof is putting in his normal amount of work?
Do you think DBP could be a wolf?
I'm ttrying to get this post out now lol it's all in there

DBP definitely isn't on his wolf meta right now as has been said before. He could have changed his meta of course but his confidence and willingness to push people seems like a town scumhunting. I'm feeling better about him today than I was d0

I have no idea about choof because I haven't played much with him. seems town enough because also scumhunting

[AragakiAyase]

maybe it should be red blaster

[AragakiAyase]

his reads list pushed him back towards null for me but his latest shenanigans clearly show that he doesn't care. he's been asking some questions (to seem towny) but doesn't actually follow up on them so they don't go anywhere. they're there just for the sake of asking questions. and instead of defending himself he just chucks insults/repeats things, opting out of actually presenting an argument. also pretty much 0 scumhunting aside from a d0 push on rzr that didn't actually go anywhere

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Agree entirely, but unfortunately this is what red blaster does. Ironically, he's more conciliatory and tries to put forth a greater effort in "solving" the game when he's scum...at least, he did when I was on a team with him.

hmm

so do you think he's town? I'm still pretty confident about there being one between rzr/blaster

[AragakiAyase]

ninjad

[AragakiAyase]

do you think there's more likely to be a wolf in xel or RB?

[AragakiAyase]

if we want to lynch V I think we should wait a little back to give him a chance to defend himself

if we want to lynch RB I'm ok with it now

if we want to lynch with xel I'm also ok with it now

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

DBP's entire train of logic is bullshit and he's doubling down on a point after multiple people have told him it's sort've a non-point.

first off, he's asking charu to behave in some sort of "this is generally the play humans always make" except it's a play i don't always expect humans to make and he's negging him for specific behavior lacking from charu that is hella minor esp. w/r/t charu, and just drilling the point into the ground.

i don't quite see his logic on charu and i feel like it's forced

Originally Posted by Charu

forced or not, i don't see anything in his train that would be wolfy.

if i didn't concede the very last game we played, pretty sure i would've dunked backpack, or if not dunked, make him make a decision that was apparently mind blowing to him.

so he gets some slack from me. i get he's probably still angry, or if not angry, highly suspicious of me.

again, i don't blame him.

Something I thought worth pointing out was how you kept saying earlier that you didn't like how much people were agreeing with you? Was this bait?

Up till post 1695 I was understanding DBP on Charu, but the more he stays attached to the point the more it worried me because I think Charu pretended to care as a wolf a lot more than he is now. I'd at least hope he's watching and analyzing more than he appears to be, but he hasn't struck me as wolfy that much. On the other hand, V says it perfectly that DBP's logic sounds forced, especially after a while.
That said, it's entirely possible that V is simly aiding Charu to help with the heat. I don't think a wolf DBP would take on that challenge.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=1798
I think this post is the most amount of work I've seen from Xel so far. It doesn't clear him for me though, I find it odd that just about everyone commented on his lack of scumhunting and he finally drops in this, but the last 100 posts (1700-1800) tell me I think it's safe to clear Charu. Which sucks because I have had DBP so towny, and I doubt a charu/DBP/xel world is possible at this point, and I believe dbp was the only one with me at first saying Xel wasn't posting enough/the same, so I'd outrule a xel/DBP team.
That said, out of the two who is more likely to be a wolf? I'm still sticking with Xel.
And given the way Zenith addresses Xel shortly after, I don't think Zenith/xel would be on a team either.

Originally Posted by XelNya

I don't play there but even I know what this is.

HE MUST BE A WUFF

/kidding obviously.

Where do you actually stand on Zenith/Rex?

I think Xel is a wolf.

FIRST POINT

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

You're not qualified to speak on this as you've only played with post most mislynched me. Ask anyone who's played with me during that time (choof, pop, charu, v) and they'll at least acknowledge the validity.

BANG, defensive without even being called out really.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

but it seems you didn't

so that means...?

This question never got an answer.

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Absolutely nothing.

And don't call that a fuckin answer.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

While I'm at it, this is a pure cheesecake post

See, Zenith is getting a lot greener in my book.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Lastly, RB, how do you expect to gain any validity from sheeping the confirmed? That is a scummy trait and you should be focusing on gaining said validity instead of going cheesecake and trying to pick a fight when you are in a hot seat.

And this!! He just ignores all the times anyone actually points something logical about his slips.
Also, after reading the entire exchange between AA and Red Blaster I still don't have faith in his humanity. He doesn't provide a reads list or anything substantial until really prodded, and then red it, it looks so forced. All he says is v is a ?, defends xel AGAIN, im fine, rounds fine, charu's charu, says he's got issues with choof but then sticks it back in the null pile, but what really bothers me is saying DBP is "a big ol null" because that is BS DBP has given a substantial amount of interactions to work with. Especially now that you think about it, with YoshL and AA early on. I would at this point be inclined to think a RB/xel/DBP team is possible.

POINT 2

Red Blaster posts his reads list in this post http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...stcount=1899.2 posts later AA asks if RB has any scum reads. Here is his response:

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

I'd probably have to say it's predominantly choof and Xel right now as they are my scummier null reads.

But this is how he said he read xel

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

3. XelNya - Idk people are reading him as scummy for not posting much content wise, but does he really ever? I think he's replaced his gif posts with fluff posts, but that said he is giving content to at least have something to go off of. I want to lean green on him, but my gut is weary of town reading him for some reason so I'll say null leaning town.

What the fuck kinda contradictin is that Red Blaster? Why not V that's about the scummiest read you listed? Trying to distance?

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

V will always be null for me.
....
As I said on Xel, my gut is just finding it hard to give him the town lean. I'd rather scum read someone like Xel based off of a gut feeling than to scum read Charu for being null.

I don't buy this for a minute, and you've commented on V, you said he was not around or whatever, but yet DBP is in your null pile and completely unmentioned here

I think Red Blaster is a wolf

Some random thoughts on Zenith

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Looking into why YoshL diedther than the bait soft, does it have to do with him claiming DBP as the SK the entire length of D0 phase?

This makes me think a lot. I remember saying with someone, I think AA, that it's possible Yosh was the real SK trying to soft blabla, and in that world I would entirely believe DBP to take that bait and send in a yoshL kill.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Looking into why YoshL diedther than the bait soft, does it have to do with him claiming DBP as the SK the entire length of D0 phase?

This makes me think a lot. I remember saying with someone, I think AA, that it's possible Yosh was the real SK trying to soft blabla, and in that world I would entirely believe DBP to take that bait and send in a yoshL kill.

[rzr]

I have another post coming towards roundbox and my reads list, I
m gonna condense it tho cuz my heads killing me from reading the last like 700 posts. And one big thing is, this first day was awesome imo, lots of interactions to read off of

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

FIRST POINT



BANG, defensive without even being called out really.

This question never got an answer.

And don't call that a fuckin answer.

See, Zenith is getting a lot greener in my book.

And this!! He just ignores all the times anyone actually points something logical about his slips.
Also, after reading the entire exchange between AA and Red Blaster I still don't have faith in his humanity. He doesn't provide a reads list or anything substantial until really prodded, and then red it, it looks so forced. All he says is v is a ?, defends xel AGAIN, im fine, rounds fine, charu's charu, says he's got issues with choof but then sticks it back in the null pile, but what really bothers me is saying DBP is "a big ol null" because that is BS DBP has given a substantial amount of interactions to work with. Especially now that you think about it, with YoshL and AA early on. I would at this point be inclined to think a RB/xel/DBP team is possible.

POINT 2

Red Blaster posts his reads list in this post http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...stcount=1899.2 posts later AA asks if RB has any scum reads. Here is his response:
But this is how he said he read xel

What the fuck kinda contradictin is that Red Blaster? Why not V that's about the scummiest read you listed? Trying to distance?

I don't buy this for a minute, and you've commented on V, you said he was not around or whatever, but yet DBP is in your null pile and completely unmentioned here

I think Red Blaster is a wolf

This makes me think a lot. I remember saying with someone, I think AA, that it's possible Yosh was the real SK trying to soft blabla, and in that world I would entirely believe DBP to take that bait and send in a yoshL kill.

RB is probably a wolf, yes

The SK thing... I think we have much better lynch targets today than DBP. I think we can leave his investigation for later