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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the fix for the avmiss glitch?
I think it is a good idea 157 80.51%
I think we should keep avmisses 38 19.49%
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:05 PM   #161
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They are confused cause the FFR Beta has kepmap as well. And lol people thinking you gonna have good PA cause average misses is fixed. Sorry to say but your accuracy is still gonna be trash (if its trash), this fix is only benefical to fast players and good jack hitters.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:13 PM   #162
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PA on harder songs can be impaired because of the constant re-compensation for framers amidst a sea of 6+ framers. I'd predict that there is a psychological effect from fixing avmisses. Now, without the worry of looking for framers or avmissing, it is much easier to get "in the zone" and keep your rhythm. The effect is probably small overall but still existent.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:51 PM   #163
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EAGAMES+, QuadDamage, Xelius

Hi Xelius!
I 100% agree with QuadDamage.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:57 PM   #164
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Avemisses will have NO EFFECT on PA.
Average + Miss -> Perfect + Perfect

AMG more Perfects = Better PA!

Technically speaking. I agree with the psychological aspect. In most framer songs I try to hit early-ish, but when they won't exist anymore I'll just have to be wary about not missing notes, not trying to hit them too early.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:01 PM   #165
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Average + Miss -> Perfect + Perfect

AMG more Perfects = Better PA!

Technically speaking. I agree with the psychological aspect. In most framer songs I try to hit early-ish, but when they won't exist anymore I'll just have to be wary about not missing notes, not trying to hit them too early.
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Fixing the avemiss bug is hardly going to any effect AT ALL on anyone's PA in general except for the few aves/misses (go figure) you would get normally from an avemiss.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:07 PM   #166
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Some of the current FMOs have a couple hundred 4-framers. It's much more than just a couple. (IMO)
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:48 PM   #167
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Hurray, I'll actually be able to hit the notes according to the... ya know... music.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:57 PM   #168
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Hurray, I'll actually be able to hit the notes according to the... ya know... music.
You might be in the wrong thread.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:37 PM   #169
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This is a comment that's starting to annoy me. Fixing the avemiss bug is hardly going to any effect AT ALL on anyone's PA in general except for the few aves/misses (go figure) you would get normally from an avemiss. It will not be fixed and all of the sudden anyone with a decent skill level can now AAA Molto. It will be almost no different than their old crappy 200 good score except now they will be able to achieve a higher combo.

Let me repeat myself for the slow ones.

Avemisses will have NO EFFECT on PA.
I don't know if you're talking about what I said, or what person I responded to said, but when I say it makes AAA'ing a little easier, I'm talking about the songs that require you to get a good to get the next arrow at all.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:39 PM   #170
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I can't play FFR worth **** now. Cuz I'll be like, meh no worrys can't miss. I can't even fc ****ing vc's when I used to be able to AAA them.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:46 PM   #171
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who the fuck is xelius
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:46 PM   #172
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This is the best thing ever. I just got rank 517 on AIM Anthem. It wasn't even a good run. And I suck hard at FFR.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:51 PM   #173
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Wrong.

Removal of avgmisses = non-impaired PA, NOT better PA.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:54 PM   #174
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I -SUCK- at FFR and I just pulled 1100 ranks off Crowdpleaser, and 1600 ranks off OMW
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:23 PM   #175
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You might be in the wrong thread.
Not. Assuming that the notes are in-synch with the music (that's a big if sometimes) and framers require you to hit the key before the note, therefore the framers cause you to play before the music. QED.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:25 AM   #176
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THE BETA IS AMAZING!

Just wait guys. Just friggin' wait.

I'm glad avmisses are gone.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:17 PM   #177
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Yeah, my friend got a subscription just to try it out.

He FC'd Runny on his first go, can't wait
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:01 PM   #178
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Default Re: Goodbye Framers!

No Avgmisses would be awesome on FFR.
Like some say though, it may take away from the skill involved in getting those avgmiss songs.

However, it can just be compensated for by adding harder songs. Perhaps a new difficulty level may be implemented?
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:13 PM   #179
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No Avgmisses would be awesome on FFR.
Like some say though, it may take away from the skill involved in getting those avgmiss songs.

However, it can just be compensated for by adding harder songs. Perhaps a new difficulty level may be implemented?
I'm curious what you people think the new difficulty level would be called. I mean, there's not very far you can go after Guru. "For Gods Only" "For Legends Only"....If anything, all the current songs we have will just be brought down or something.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:15 PM   #180
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Yeah, there was a thread awhile back that tried to give Vertex BETA vROFL a name, because technically it's rated a 13. All sorts of gayness and ******ry ensued as people came up with terrible names for the difficulty. There was a point where I just couldn't read the thread anymore.

I mean, really, For Guru's Only says enough. Though, I do like your suggestion about For Legends Only. That's pretty good.
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