Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[who_cares973]

i'll do my judging when i come home from work on monday

[samurai7694]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

I have your version from Rebound's pack - I can easily remove the freezes and re-step it based off of someone who played it on youtube. Not a big deal and I would definitely love to see TBMS in game because it's (imo) REALLY fun.

Yeah, if it's not a burden then please do that for me, please and thanks.

[TC_Halogen]

Alright. I'll do it for you tonight after I get out of work. Shouldn't be too big of an issue. I remember you changing a few bursts so I'll be editing those back to how they are in the DF version.

[Patashu]

Btw, I'm interested in stepping more songs in the 1-7 range. The problem being, of course, that ffr's precedent is 'one chart per song probably', so it needs to be songs where easier files feel just right for it anyway.
Think songs that are primarily 8th-y or slow swing.
Think songs that would be very boring if stepped with their 16ths intact (say their only source is some background or quiet percussive instrument), but cool if they were left out.

ideas:
Kommisar - Nebulous Dream
cornandbeans - {Lazy Summer Days} (since Xandertrax's won't be accepted - maybe other Xandertrax rejected files would work too, like Bump)
Rushjet1 - The Battle With the Betrayed (maybe)
Rushjet1 - Dementia
Rushjet1 - Marble Zone (sounds like **** though)
Rushjet1 - Still Afraid of Darkness 8k RMX
still a ****load of rushjet1 to go through lmao.

I would especially like to make another 1-2, but how many songs are appropriate for that?

ps do we have any dubstep permissions? most dubstep would be quite easy

[Coolboyrulez0]

Originally Posted by Patashu

ps do we have any dubstep permissions? most dubstep would be quite easy

Sadly I don't think so, but you or someone should try to get some, I collect dubstep and could provide some songs then

Some suggestions:
Doctor P - http://www.facebook.com/#!/doctorpcircus
Flux Pavilion - http://www.facebook.com/#!/fluxpavilion
Funtcase - http://www.myspace.com/funtcase
Cookie Monsta - http://www.myspace.com/cookiemonstatc2
Nero - http://www.facebook.com/#!/nerouk
Borgore - http://www.myspace.com/borgore
Roksonix - http://www.myspace.com/roksonix
Numbernin6 - http://www.numbernin6.com/
Excision & Datsik - http://www.myspace.com/excision & http://www.myspace.com/djdatsik
Bar 9 - http://www.myspace.com/bar9uk
Rusko- http://www.ruskoonfire.com/

Most of these artists have further contact information on their sites.

Have a lot of stuff from these guys and they basically cover all sorts of dubstep from crazy sadistic sounds to more mellow pieces.

[Patashu]

Which ones of those aren't signed up to Big Record? (imagine the c is replaced with a cent sign or something)

[Coolboyrulez0]

Try to go for Roksonix, just getting "big" now. (although I do actually recall them getting signed to Circus a few weeks ago >_>) Most others are signed to Circus Records, which ironically I requested permission for a few days ago... no takers yet

Also try Numbernin6

[customstuff]

OMG I SHOULD TRY TO GET HYPE REGIMENT PERMISSION.

BRB DOING THAT.

They have people like Widelows, Culprate, Devnik. It would be amazing!

Edit: There's the following artists, so I HOPE they say yes!

EQU (Beatboxer)
Culprate
D-Jahsta
Depone
Devnik
Doomtrooper
Mr.Boogie
Lonestar
Persist
Point.Blank
Requake
Sinehere
Sinister souls
Statelapse
Tetsuo
Widelows

[kommisar]

patashu if you do nebulous dream get the one from 8bc.org or wait till december when arch is finished his rap over it hehu

[Patashu]

haha nebulous dream rap
yeah I'll wait for that 8)

[bmah]

I came

Mathematics / Vote4Nixon
rating: [+?]
- overall, highly underlayered, especially if you put the song's repetitiveness into consideration; conga and other percussions largely omitted
- I'd consider these two options: either edit the song shorter and keep everything as is; or layer in a climatic manner throughout the song, eventually incorporating more instruments and patterns to keep the file interesting

No Running Water / who_cares973
rating: [+.]
- minor PR discrepencies (e.g. beat 21.50)
- a few missing notes (e.g. beat 27.25) but you probably omitted some for distincting streams
- if there's anything you should add, it's a missing jump at the end of the song (beat 158) going to strings
- relaxing and great for an easy file

Perseverance (RuSHeR Remix)/ customstuff
rating: [-]
-m6: 32nds doable but rather silly
- unnecessary rainbow notes at places like m9
- m10-11: jumpjack patterns are a pain; better off as single 16ths
- m12: although jack patterns here more doable, regular layering will not have jumpjacks at all
- m19: out-of-sync rolls
- m21-24: PR is pretty loose at best
- m25-28: what's with those jacks?
- m29-36: keep the stream and layer with the drums; also, 32nds here and not 24ths; plus missing 32nd and more bad jumpjacks
- m39-52: sure is underlayered; more noticeable however are out of sync PR patterns and completely random patterns that do not fit with the song at all
- m53-54: jacks are dumb
- ok what, I thought the song was over, guess not...
from what I've played afterwards, song is a mess of wrong note types, bad patterns, bad jacks, and everything else under the sun
- file needs major changes; a lot of patterns overall seem unfitting or even forced upon

Pokemon / tj28
rating: [?]
- a number of things that should be considered:
- main melody not always stepped fully or correctly, such as m5,7
- it doesn't hurt to correct some PR issues such as m13. although you do take note of it sometimes such as m15-17
- m21-23: is one big stream that's not representative of the melody
- m25-28: don't assume it's the same melody as on m15; listen carefully
- song is more suitable if you doubled the bpm
- would be good for an easy song, but take a little more care

Prokofiev - Etude No.2 / SKG_Scintill
rating: [+]
- small PR issues at gallop areas (e.g. m16); PR is noticeably consistent in just about every other part of the song
- it's great to have another not-so-insanely-hard classical song

Pure Ruby / TC_Cyrenics
rating: [+.]
- no arrow at beat 47.75
- some patterns didn't go to anything such as m30 but I understand that it's probably to keep things interesting; I don't mind
- some PR could have better choices, but not a big issue (e.g. m39 should be lower rolls than m40)
- beat 175 and similar areas should be a jump
- step m62,70 better
- I honestly think that m79 to the end can be a long 16th stream for climatic purposes; you already have the same patterns earlier in the song
- overall some minor fixes; fun file

Radiant Moonlight / Bluearrowll
rating: [+?]
- m10-21: patterns at this point becomes dull and I think you can layer this differently
- m34-39: you should keep stepping the percussion, since it's rather anticlimatic otherwise
- right before m45 and similar areas are some weird semi-PR patterns; would make sense if you did something such as 123 instead of 124
- beat 243: in places like these, don't forget to layer properly
- beat 271: jump missing oops
- file is actually not too bad; mostly make the first half a bit more distinctive and less dull...song is kinda generic

RAN / megamon88
rating: [+]
- 32nds going to mandolin at beginning are most often 24ths; check sync
- m64: jacks are pretty mean here haha (as well as the 32nd trills, but they're interesting); consider a change for at least the four jumpjacks
- amzin!

Rondo a Capriccio / Bluearrowll
rating: [+?]
- the steps are fun, yet I am somewhat disappointed that you avoided further layering as the song progressed; unlike other genres, classical piano just feels better when you step it in a way that emulates the piano playing
- you do have fun patterns with great PR
- I highly suggest you layer more as the song progresses, especially those 16ths; song is also lengthy, so this would help variation too
- there are a few areas that are misrepresentative of the piano e.g. single piano notes on m116-119
- it's fun as is, but I'd be rather sad if you left the file like this

Run Kirby Run / Xandertrax
rating: [+.]
- beat 35.50 missing jump
- some jumps at the beginning of the song are generalized in regards to sync with the guitar, but that's fine
- m44-49: in addition to some missing jumps, lots of one-handed trill patterns created here; awkward to play
- check small burst around beat 250.75
- m66-67: wrong PR
- m90-96: pretty empty; fill up a bit
- overall fun, except that trill-jumpstream area is D:

Saikyou OX Keikaku / Stavie33
rating: [<]
- song doesn't have much more to offer than the version already in-game, even with the extended length; subpar attempt at making a harder version
- several inaccuracies as well, most notably some 24ths that are sprinkled throughout the song

Sakura Blue Sky / SulferDragon
rating: [+.]
- PR could be better in some places such as m1
- a few 8ths missing (beat 79.50,239.50,etc.)
- m22-24 could be a little more climatic
- good for an easy-mid level song

Shooogun / customstuff
rating: [?]
- file is coming along, but more could be done
- listen for missing notes, like beats 8.75,17.50,29.75,etc.
- be more careful with syncopated/weird notes, such as beat 13.50
- layering is incomplete at times, like at beats 37.50,38.00,etc.
- step more dominant sounds such as 12ths around m14-15
- some patterns can be done better (e.g. 24th trills)
- overall, don't skimp on the details; inspect your file more closely

Smash Podcast / Coolboyrulez0
rating: [+.]
- minor PR issues (e.g. beat 2.50)
- m17-24: 16ths are actually 24th gallops...fix these
- short and sweet

Song of the second moon / bluguerrilla
rating: [+]
- weird and unique song, but it works
- pretty much every arrow does its job right

Sparkle Downer / npv
rating: [+.]
- some bursts are rather difficult to hit (e.g. m72)
- 32nd jack at around beat 220.75 isn't nice
- don't know if all hands in the file are warranted (e.g. m64)
- overall, difficulty doesn't swing too wildly, and is yet a great FMO/FGO chart

take up the cross (Euro Power Mix) -Short Ver- / Vote4Nixon
rating: [+?]
- fun, but empty and often inaccurate
- there are many areas that can be layered more; stepping only solo melodies often result in extremely empty areas (e.g. m50-59)
- areas like m11,12 occur frequently throughout song, and are always inaccurate (check for the missing 32nds and offsync 8ths)
- 16ths can be sprinkled in areas like m20-21; and then there are missing 16ths such as beat 143.25
- overall, keep the file running (Euro POWER Mix!) and fill in sparse solo sections; fix up the many inaccuracies

The Fusion / Patashu
rating: [+]
- m105: it's not bad if you step the percussion as well
- cool beans

This Could've Been Nice / DarkZtar
rating: [?]
- too bad the name of the song also holds true for the file
- this chart could be really fun, except the many 48th bursts and 32nd walls make everything that much more unreasonable
- lone 48th bursts are doable, but reduce 48th patterns that go on any longer than that
- 12th jacks are also unreasonable
- if you fix things up (dumb things down a bit), this could be nice

Try to Star / DarkZtar
rating: [+.]
- some important jumps missing (e.g. beat 94.00,114.50,118.00,162.00,163.00,173.00,etc.)
- some spots can be filled in (e.g. m28)
- m39-40: optional, but if you want to up the difficulty a bit, add the guitar trill
- m59-60: OUCH trill; make it spread-friendly please
- m90: 12ths, not 16ths
- a few 16ths missing, like beat 395.25
- file should definitely be conditional; please fix up the trill, key jumps, and m90; fun though

Voodoo People / megamon88
rating: [+.]
- at least later throughout the song, layer more (i.e. 4th bass drums) so I can feel the beat of the song better; playing with the rhythm feels good
- other than that, nice file

White Walls / dore
rating: [+.]
- 14-MINUTE SONG, HERE I COME
- some jumps could have better PR at beginning (e.g. beat 5.00)
- 32nd trill at places like m13,110 sucks; would make AAAing this file a pain; doable though
- m104 is pretty nasty; perhaps change patterns
- m132-135: Blooddrunk deja vu! Would be better if 16ths weren't one-handed trills
- m340-365: oh my god
- many other places that can trip you up easily
- enormously fun (worthy of a long-song chart) and certainly a lot of work on your end, but I guarantee that people will be ripping their hair out if they try to AAA this haha
- this song will definitely break a lot of FFR records; a keeper for sure
NOTE: I believe FFR has a song length limitation, and iirc, dore requested the file to be split if needed

Wolf By Night, Human In Dreams / woker-X
rating: [+.]
- I know you have fixes for this, so see if they match my commentary below
- beat 97 should be a jump
- m56-62: there are some 8th notes that can certainly make the 12th patterns more interesting
- m64-67 has some syncopated 12ths, while m68-73 are continuous 12ths; since the 12th gallop regime has been going on for quite a while, you should try stepping some of these
- 12ths get boring after a while, but steps are pretty decent in general

Yellow Lasers / dore
rating: [+]
- zzzap!

Yellowknife / customstuff
rating: [?]
- the 32nd trills are too much of a difficulty spike for the overall file, despite trills being spread-friendly
- patterns boring due to the generic song; song doesn't really have much stepping potential

[Patashu]

Just as a comment:

RAN / megamon88
rating: [+]
- 32nds going to mandolin at beginning are most often 24ths; check sync

I'm pretty sure that they are 32nds, listening to it, just not solid 32nds.

[Korygon]

Now look who's being lenient =p

[Gundam-Dude]

PM'd bmah my notes. Huge brick wall of text inbound.

[Dimentio]

Cool maybe this batch can get done within the next 2 years.


Has anyone seen rebirth, or did he abandon the project again

[bmah]

that was the most unfriendly text file I got in regards to copy-pasting GD haha (huge horizontal spread on website, or spaces get omitted if I save the text file lol)

Anyways, my notes as well as GD's is now updated in the Batch Review thread.

[bmah]

Originally Posted by Patashu

Just as a comment:

RAN / megamon88
rating: [+]
- 32nds going to mandolin at beginning are most often 24ths; check sync

I'm pretty sure that they are 32nds, listening to it, just not solid 32nds.

They're variable, some are 24ths, some are 32nds. Just checked again. Later on, they're mostly 32nds though. w/e

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by Dimentio

Cool maybe this batch can get done within the next 2 years.


Has anyone seen rebirth, or did he abandon the project again

we've already got judgements from six people in under a week so I'm confident
idk where rebirth is

[Korygon]

Oh well. I don't think we different much in our judgments so if needed, we can go off of just ours

[jimerax]

Don't worry, we have backup judges for someone's inactivity.