Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[bmah]

Wait, we're supposed to post our notes directly onto this thread? I thought there was a separate thread for that (Batch Review).

ps samurai confirmed to me a while ago that Adcar was a joke file.

[TC_Halogen]

We should make a new thread with each team getting their posts in back to back (a new Batch Review thread, in essence).

(i.e. group 1 judges post back to back, then 2, then 3, then 4)

I'm working on schoolwork today - you guys will either see reviews from me late tonight or tomorrow, depending on how long I work for; I have two days off of work, so it's a win-win for me.

[Korygon]

I'm not gonna bother putting the file artist. They know what they stepped.

{Lazy Summer Days} [-]
I'm not feeling the 24ths here. This is supposed to be a simple 8th note jump pattern chart. The 24ths, while not actually hard in reality, add a giant difficulty spike. You also go back and forth what you place your jumps too. Gets really inconsistent and annoying. Honestly I don't see this chart getting much of anywhere. Even as an easy chart it is just so repetitive. Maybe try following the melody much more closely and stop worrying about the background percussion as much, and make this a really really easy file? That's about all the advice I can offer.

11ELEVEN [+.]
The burst around m31 is just a little too much I think, at least at that speed. The 32nds are -dealable-, but that's just a little overkill. Other than that, while I hate the song, I think this is okay.

Above [+.]
For slow files like this, PR is really noticeable, and I don't know it just feels really off when the PR isn't right. I'm not gonna make this a required fix, but I would like to see it fixed.
Get rid of that first minijack. The second note should be a down arrow, not an up arrow
Also that last note really isn't needed.
After that I have no problem with this.

Action Winter Journey [+.]
I want the pattern on that first 32nd burst changed to something similar to the second (or just take it out completely). After that, this file is fine.

Adcar [?]
I don't really agree with the jacks at all in file. It's just too fast.
I question the use of the polyrhythms at m38
Anything above the use of 32nds in this file (with the exception of the green notes you use for syncing purposes) need to go. It's too fast for freaking 48th bursts.
Even though I hate the song, fix these and I can accept. Will be good to have another retardedly hard file for people to whore.

All of Yours [+.]
What's with the jumps in m8? They don't go to anything that requires jumps.
Techincally the lyrics in the beginning aren't exactly going to 16th notes, but for the sake of the easy file, it works. You start getting into colored notes with the lyrics around m28. Probably shouldn't do that if the rest of your file implies the lyrics as 16ths.
I'd avoid the use of jumpjacks in this file. Just doesn't really warrant them.
You also have an extra note added to your file at the end.
Fix this up and I will accept. PS this song is WAY more interesting at 1.4x rate. Just saying B)

Arrrrr [+]
I'm not a big fan of files that are purposely underlayered for the sake of making them easy, but I guess this is overall okay.

Badinerie [+.]
I really really think this file should be layered more. While good and short, the file feels a bit bland. It's passable, but I would like to see this layered more.

Banjo Kazooie Theme [+.]
If you are going to underlayer a file to make it easier while keeping it interesting, this is how you do it. nice job.
The 24th section is a little awkward. You do a good job of patterns with the 32nds, but I'd like the 24ths to be fixed.

Battlefield [-]
Doesn't this fall below the song length standards? Pretty sure it does.

Bit Blue [+]
Personally I don't like the jumpspam sections, but I guess they work so I can't complain.

Black and White [+.]
The patterns on some of the bursts are awkward to hit. I'd like you to go back through and fix them up. Other than that I see nothing wrong with this file.

Blame it on Bad Luck [+]
Ugh this is what I dreaded. 400 minute long emo rock songs (while the song isn't actually THAT long, they seem to last for a painful eternity. File is simple and straightforward. If you are into this kind of song then I guess you will enjoy this file.

Bury the Hatchet [+]
Contratry to Patashu, I like that you didn't layer the lyrics. I feel like they would have ruined the file. With the exception of that pattern Patashu mentioned, I like this file.

Loituma [+]
Why the hell would basshunter remix this? This is why he is such a bad artist.
File at least keeps this song interesting. Props for that.

CJ Funk [+]
Simple and enjoyable. Bursts for the most part are easy to hit which is a plus.

Cette Anne [+]
One of the files I tooled around with while I was waiting to see what I specifically was supposed to judge. Excellent file. The YMCK trills are all simple to hit, and that makes me a happy otter.

Chase You Down [+]
I liked pretty much everything about this file. Also another song that is much more fun on 1.5x rate. Now I see what you mean about listening to mostly vocal ridden songs lmao. Song is actually p. tite tho.

Chopin - Op.10 No.9 [+.]
Jumpstream gets a little dull
Jacks are a giant freaking difficulty boost, but they aren't terrible.

Chopin - Valse Op.69 No.2 [+]
Simple and fun

Clockwork - [+]
Honestly I found this way more fun before the break beat crap came in, but it works.

Csikos Post - [+]
Dang I'm giving out a lot of pluses. Hope I'm not being too lenient =/
File is short and enjoyable though.

Darkshark AAA'd this [--]
He also AAA'd my heart but you don't see me making a file about it.

Dead Hooker Smoothie [+?]
You really should finish this. This is one of the few breakbeat-ish files I was actually enjoying. I really see nothing I blatantly disagree with for this file, so finish it up and it was definitely warrant an accept.

Death Match - [?]
Another file that is really short, but this one is at least a mildly play-able length.
Really should be layered more. The gaps in this file just feel way too empty. Also the last 3 notes should not have a jack. Doesn't need one. Layer this up a bit more and I will accept.

Death Moon [-]
Pretty much the file itself is wrong with the file. I'm definitely fixing up my chart and sending it in. Not to be narcissistic but it's going to take a fantastic file for this to be able to make it in, so it's gonna have to be done by a slightly more upper level file artist.

[Korygon]

(Double post) Yeah I agree with the new thread idea.

[bmah]

You guys are generous...but pretty much every new judge is like that at first before fine-tuning their judgments.

[Korygon]

To be honest most of those files weren't that bad. Plus with the fact that this game looks for easier files as well (aka stuff below a 1 on the DCP scale), it allows more leniency. Most of the changes end up just being personal preference stuff.


Plus a lot of the stuff in the first part of the alphabet was done by established simauthors thus they leaned towards being a bit better.

[Patashu]

BUIZEL ACCEPTS EVERYTHING

I do agree that this part of the batch was actually good overall though. quite surprising

one problem with figuring out what to rank is that it essentially has two dimensions - how good it is now, and how much room it has for improvement. a file could be alright but not have any obvious way to do better, or it could be great and have the potential to become much greater with lots of fixes and tweaking. so do you rate the first one a + and the second one a +? or the other way around?

[kommisar]

awwwwwwww right gonna get to judging tonight


man my group is going to have a lot of rejected files lmao. idk how nsane judges tho we'll see.





GETTING TO WORK:

Perseverence [-]

-those 32nds at m6 are a) barely audible and b) awful patterns.
-Some jumps feel inconsistent.
-m25 adding random mini jacks in stream? doesn't make much sense. Seems you're adding jump jacks just for the sake of difficulty.
-File has some potential, but forcing difficulty on a file doesn't always work.


Mathematics [+?]

-Well crafted file, although quite repetitive.
-ok very repetitive.


No Running Water [+]

-Very chill file
-Simple yet elegant, great easy file.


Pokémon [-]

-First of all, Pitch relevancy is off right from the start
-m5 the second 4th should be a 16th if you're following the melody. The rest of the melody isn't followed properly here either.
-m6 huge gap with nothing going on?
-m13 this would've worked with two note jacks for the bass piano notes
-m19 overall pr could be fixed here, even in the jumpstream.
-m25 shouldn't be two note trills. If you listen carefully to the piano there's a whole lot else going on.


Prokofiev [+.]

-Not much to complain about here, pr is well done.
-Some parts feel a little repeated. The 16th gallops get a little old after a while.
-Not much diversity but aite I guess.


Pure Ruby [+.]

-m7 the 16th run should start on a lower note (pr)
-m13 I really don't see the need to put random 24th notes.
-m22 16th notes questionable. Don't hear anything prominent to generate those.
-m51 if you're placing jumps to the piano hits, there should be one on the 3rd 4th, and 4th 4th of m52.
-Listen to your piano runs with jumps again. Quite a few jumps missed.
-File has lots of fun value but needs fixes.


Radiant Moonlight [-]

-m5 missed a 16th note after the last 8th, same with m9
-m14 I don't quite understand your layering here. Randomly stop using jumps on some 4th notes?
-After playing the same patterns for 20 measures, it gets old.
-Has some overall inconsistencies


RAN [+]

-Fantastic
-Some bursts kinda hard to hit
-m64 if you're going to put a burst after these jump jacks, at least place them on the opposite hand to hit


Rondo a Capriccio [+.]

-Very fun file
-Only complaint is that sometimes your transition between bass piano notes and melody notes is a little inconsistent, however it's at very few areas.
-m102 you sure those are 12ths? I think it was just a mistake.
-Just that little part fixed and it's a guranteed accept


Run Kirby Run [+.]

-Not sure placing jumps to every lead note was the best idear since it looks a little cluttered and dumpstreamy at parts.
-Cool song with fun parts


Saikyou OX Keikaku [-]

-Rebirth's is more accurate and better in general, sorry.


Sakura Blue Sky [+]

-Well layered easy file.
-Literally don't have anything else to say about this lol.
-Have a hail emoticon o/


Shooogun [-]


-m14 these should be 12ths?
-some drum rolls are 32nds, not 24ths
-m29 these are 16ths not 12ths
-lots of rhythms need some looking over.


Smash Podcast [+]

-Short and completely awesome.


Song of the Second Moon [+?]

-these low ass bpms make this impossible to judge lmao.
-m18 these jump jacks you're following must be to some inaudible sound cuz they certainly don't fit
-Don't think there's a whole lot else wrong except for the song being dj donna summers but yea.


Sparkle Downer [+]

-Ugh making me review T11 this late....
-Rhythm wise it's perfectly fine. Patterns are good even for the rainbow dumps
-very well done.


Take up the Cross [-]

-m11 I hear some 32nds in here, if you're going to follow these.
-m12 look over the rhythms again. Second 8th should be a 4th.
-A few parts need some looking over concerning missed rhythms.


The Fusion [+]

-Kinda repetitive as a whole since it's the same rhythms over and over with a few variations.
-File however is excellent. Nothing wrong here.


This Could've Been Nice [+?]

-m16 uhh... 225bpm 16th jacks are a little much man.
-m22 stepping the buzzing sound is fine but at that speed, 64ths are again, a little much
-m78 place the jump jacks on [12] so that the roll lands on [4][3][2][1] and makes it less awkward to hit
-m80 again that jack is ugh
-m118 you definitely need to fix this part up. Way too hard. single notes for the 32nds/24ths and jump trills for the 16ths?
-File is very accurately stepped, just needs some fixing to make it consistent difficulty wise.


Try to Star [+.]

-finally a file I don't have to say pr is wrong at the start lmao.
-m48 feels a little empty compared to the rest. feels like the percussions should be followed.
-m59-60 really, that long of a one handed trill? ugh. At that bpm for the rest of the file it's a little much.
-a few concerns of mine, but an otherwise very fun file.


Voodoo People [+]

-Nothing wrong at all. Pr is spot on.
-Only thing that irks me is starting at m49, there's always a gap where I feel there should at least be a 4th note (on m50 for example) since you're following 4th snare.


White Walls [+.]

-m13 one handed 32nd trill is a no-no
-Some of those hands seem thrown in just to make it harder and fmo.
-m52/53 speeding it up like that making it 4ths and 8ths will probably throw off whoever's playing it on ffr since it's all cmodded.
-Impressive sync and well stepped


Wolf by Night, Human in Dreams [+.]

-Start is pretty repetitive.
-m64 there's a syncopated 12th note you could place to add to the feel of it since you're following percs.


Yellow Lasers [+]

-Coul karaoke steps
-Haha wow.


Yellowknife [-]

-m16 not sure placing those 32nds as trills is very consistent to the difficulty.
-Very repetitive. Basically just the same rhythms with layered jumps.
-Lacks fun value in general.

[Korygon]

patashu what are you talking about? im usually the one to reject everything haha

[psychoangel691]

I know you guys are judging the old batch right now and were talking about closing the recent batch but did that actually get closed? If not I'm going to send something in.

[customstuff]

I hope Shooogun gets in... it was actually good

[bmah]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

I know you guys are judging the old batch right now and were talking about closing the recent batch but did that actually get closed? If not I'm going to send something in.

No, the current batch has yet to be officially closed. Also, files can be sent anytime...if the batch is closed, files sent during this period will be due for the next batch.

Status: current batch has no file limitations, subsequent ones will

[psychoangel691]

Okay thanks gonna make some fixes and send em in then.

[Vote4Nixon]

I feel the urge to play Dark Shark AAA'd This! even though I don't have to...

[who_cares973]

something like the old batch review thread would be great that was people will be able to find and reference the posts easier instead of having them scattered throughout this thread

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by Vote4Nixon

I feel the urge to play Dark Shark AAA'd This! even though I don't have to...

it has six charts
the first step is to find the serious chart
the second step is to reject it

[jimerax]

You can auto-reject files that have multiple charts, without even playing.

Making a thread for reviews would be good, but we can't make it judge-exclusive (only judges can post) here.

[TC_Halogen]

Death Traveller (Vote4Nixon) [+.] (9)
This chart has an awkward feel to it...
m10-24 feels strangely accented because you opted to choose the quiet, background riffs - it leaves you no room to accent more important things like cymbal crashes.
m32-34: why'd you stop accenting the snare?
m36 - beat 143.500, misplaced jack
m44 - missed jump according to your layering (there are two piano notes there)

Overall, the layering is proper, and the pseudo-pitch relevant run is a interesting touch, but it feels strange because it doesn't feel accented properly to me; it's a fairly subjective issue though.

Deco Stop (The5thMoon) [-]
This song definitely could use a cut.

Inconsistent step choice throughout the slower sections - same step mini-jacks are indicative of something going on where there's nothing really there. The snares and bass drums are accented properly, but the slower sections drag on much longer than they should. The faster sections have accenting issues - some snares are accented and others aren't.

The roll at m99 ending in 64ths is a bit ridiculous for 202 BPM.

There's just a lot of issues scattered throughout this chart, and it was rough to make it through.

Directly Perfectly (???) [?]
Layering is correct, but uses the same patterns throughout the chart and doesn't accommodate for the constant changes in pitch for the synthesized melody. Just overall plain.

Directly Perfectly (who_cares973) [+.] (11)
Missing a fair amount 24th blips (you only see them once, at m12??)/32nd hi-hat bursts, but you seem to cover those where they fit the most. I prefer this chart over the other one because it takes account of the synth which does have a very nice, distinguished melody. Chart flows fairly nicely aside from the mini-jacks, but they hold accuracy to the music so I can't really nail you on that.

Disco 80's (bmah) [+.] (9)
Only reason you're getting a +. and not a + from me is because the song just DRAGS. The chart is accurate, and it actually has some interesting pattern choice. I find it fun, but I can't stand listening to the song.

Dizzay (customstuff) [-]
Sync deviates like crazy, song is very uninteresting, and the chart is just all over the place. I see some percussion relevance, but the overall pattern choice and structure is not pleasant.

Dreamin' In The 80s (bluguerilla) [+.] (8)
Pretty nifty little easy chart you have here. Absolutely LOVE the pitch-relevancy hidden within the run in measures 15 to 19. Only thing I have to say that irks me about the chart is the BPM shifting from 100 to 200 when the song sounds fairly slow paced, even behind the piano runs.

Dumpstream (0) [-]
accurate, but seriously not fun - no one is going to appreciate 270 BPM runningmen. Also, I see a lot of copy/paste.

Eating Crow (bluguerilla & Coolboyrulez0) [+?]
Jump usage is a bit odd in the vocal areas in m17-m24 - the repetition of the vocals makes sense but it seems like you don't bother to accent them in the first half, which irks me slightly. m43-46 and m64-70, while correct, feel overlayered because of what's being used. I personally think this song would do better with an easier chart, and it also feels a lot longer than it really is.

Epileptic Crisis (suicidaln00b) [?/!]
I don't recall us ever having permission to use this song. Chart has really poor pattern choice, and some of the bursts are just god-awful choice for the BPM that the song is(m15,19,20,22,etc.). If there's any consolation to this, there's at least proper layering for a decent amount of the chart.

ESC - Amplified T Squared Mix (DarkZtar) [+?]
Inconsistent bass drum accenting in the beginning, make sure you catch all of them that you can without layering into any of the bursts.

m12 - remove the mini-jack that forms from coming into this burst
m20 - change all of the flams to the same two notes; you switch it at the end.
m21 - take out the 8th note of the first 32nd sequence to give that separated feel. Beat 83.000 - should be a 32nd roll here.
m33 - change the very end of this snare sequence since a different percussion comes over the top of the snare.
m72 - even with the snare building up, you could probably fit the jacks for the voice if you wanted to, just don't layer them, keep it as a single stream

m58-m72 is REALLY intense, but man would that be one hell of a nice challenge for some of the upper level players; I'd really like to see this in game with some of these fixes.

Experiment (championanwar) [+] (7)
Nice lower-level chart. Flows pretty nicely and the usage of 32nds isn't really seen consistently without bursts, which is also pretty neat. Song feels a little longer than it should, but nothing too bad.

Extreme Dishwasher Race (megamon88) [+.] (10)
Layering is clean for the most part. Some of the mini-jacks are a bit questionable. Synth melody from m17 to m24 is nicely stepped with the exception of the two mini-jacks in m20. Layering in m43 is a bit awkward only because of your choice in the section before it, not much to be changed there. Any reason why you're missing the layering for the sound at beat 178.750 (m45) until the end of the song? Fairly fun chart.

Field of Snow (stavie33) [-]
Lack of pitch relevance where the chart could definitely use it, and the layering is extremely inconsistent - you have two verses (m22-38/m66-82) that sound the same (in fact, the second one has MORE) but are stepped entirely differently. The mini-jack usage throughout the chart makes it feel extremely rigid and forced, and the extreme layering just shows that you wanted to accommodate for every sound, rather than making a chart that focuses on a few things.

Floating Through Time (who_cares973) [+] (5)
Simple chart with pitch relevancy and a decent amount of patterns to keep the player busy.

For FFR v2 (TC_Cyrenics) [?]
misrhythm in m7, ghost notes in m8/m9; grace notes in m40 not needed; ghost note in m62 (b245.875), ghost notes in m66/m67/m72/m74, and the BPM change at the end is totally unnecessary (although it might provide a nice visual gimmick once converted to FFR).

Overall, the patterns are a bit bland, and there's a lack of attention towards very specific rhythms. I will say that I did like the runningmen from measures 45 to 48.

Frühlingsrauschen (Xandertrax) [-]
m2/m3/m4/m33 is missing the last 32nd note in the run; m5/6/34/35 24th note bursts are misrhythms; not liking the intentional mis-quantize at m16-m21; the beginning of m26 is faster than 24ths; m28-31 is missing layering for the higher treble-clef notes (start at beat 109.667)...

...the errors stack up so much in this file. There's some (incorrect) pitch-relevancy throughout the chart, coupled with a not-so-great pattern choice.

Gene Gadget Zone (TC_Cyrenics & bmah) [+.] (9)
I like how you're able to maintain instrument revelance even without displaying proper pitch fairly deep into the song - it took me quite a few repeats of the introduction to see that you kept that relevance in that awkward sounding synth pretty far into the beginning. The rest of the chart holds focus on two instruments, and when it does so, it does so properly. It's a bit difficult to notice at first glance, though. Song drags on a bit, but nothing major.

Greensleeves (woker-X) [+.] (6)
Long, but very nicely stepped overall.

Grocery Escape Plan (dore & bluguerilla) [fgsfds]
I couldn't stop laughing while listening to this song, holy ****. In all seriousness though, the chart is a pretty typical dore chart - heavily layered and will not stray away from the same patterns if the same instrument or sound is played. The jack usage is a bit rough though. My actual rating for this would probably be a [+?].

Hand Throw (OperationStrawberry) [-]
Sync is completely off and couldn't even get through enough of the song to figure out what the hell is going on - quit out.

Happy Guy Falls Off A Not So Happy Mountain (Shadowlessheart) [?]
I do see some understanding of relevance in pitch, but the song overall just doesn't have any sort of replayability. It's also a bit too short...

Hate (WTFBrandon) [?]
Chart makes sense in that it focuses on two instruments, however, using this layering throughout the entire chart makes it extremely boring, not to mention the chart structure is very strange.

Holy War (DJAirWave) [?]
For an easier chart, PR isn't entirely necessary, but when it's obvious that you're trying to have that relevance and it's incorrect, it looks strange. Mini-jacks at 170 BPM in a lower-level chart isn't exactly the best of pattern choices. With a little bit of correction in pattern choice, this could be a decent file for a great song.

Honey Cookie (0) [-]
Started great. Hit m16. Quit out immediately.

[jimerax]

added submission rules in the top post.

tell me if I'm missing something.

[Patashu]

How about something like:
'It should be a simfile that is fun to play for you and others, goes well to the song and captures all its themes and variations and has been confirmed to be on sync on a low music rate.'