Super Smash Brothers Brawl - Page 77

Aleste · 01-25-2008, 07:52 PM

i need to stop by and finally finish paying my copy off. i'm pretty sure the reservations at my store alone are over 100 now. That's... quite alot from such a small gamestop location

"Limited quantities" is looking less like a rumor these days.

l2awr · 01-26-2008, 12:22 AM

eh I'll be playing the Japanese version of it about a week after it comes out. I can wait for the American version =]] I'm like 63 in line at my store.

**Squeek** · 01-27-2008, 02:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ITP123

Demo kiosk gameplay of the Japanese game.

**Buttoxin** · 01-27-2008, 02:36 PM

I didn't do my research and I didn't read every post up to this point, but I do believe you couldn't play as Captain Falcon outside his car until SSB. Besides, Brawl has done some amazing things. What makes you (Squeek) think R.O.B. WILL NOT be playable?

tsugomaru · 01-27-2008, 02:39 PM

R.O.B is not playable because he appears to be an enemy from the Subspace Emissary.

Also, as said before, R.O.B has only made appearances as a sideline character with no significance. You can race with Captain Falcon, but you do not do anything with R.O.B. He just kinda stands there, on the side lines, not doing anything.

EDIT: There appears to be no wave dashing in those videos.

~Tsugomaru

**Squeek** · 01-27-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buttoxin

I didn't do my research and I didn't read every post up to this point, but I do believe you couldn't play as Captain Falcon outside his car until SSB. Besides, Brawl has done some amazing things. What makes you (Squeek) think R.O.B. WILL NOT be playable?

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=1493

Also, Fox wasn't a playable character outside of his ship until Starfox Adventures. He was in Smash 64 and Melee regardless of that fact.

You're still playing as the character in their natural environment.

R.O.B. is just a peripheral. He's not a playable character in his natural environment.

Relambrien · 01-27-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsugomaru

EDIT: There appears to be no wave dashing in those videos.

Wavedashing was disconfirmed at E4All a long time ago.

tsugomaru · 01-27-2008, 03:33 PM

From what I remembered, they never said anything about wavedashing. Not saying anything doesn't confirm there's no wavedashing.

~Tsugomaru

Relambrien · 01-27-2008, 03:48 PM

Actually, it was like the first thing they said, since that's what people were most curious about. Now, wavelanding is still possible, but most likely impractical, by doing a ground-level glide into the ground. Not that it'll really matter until the game's been out for a while and everything starts to stabilize.

arsonistsgetallthegirls · 01-27-2008, 04:12 PM

Every aspect of any game can be exploited. Give it time.

tsugomaru · 01-27-2008, 05:07 PM

But you can't exploit a part of the game where there's no exploit. If they fixed the game so that you can't wavedash, I highly doubt that you'll be able to given time.

~Tsugomaru

**Squeek** · 01-27-2008, 08:04 PM

Hey, idea.

Let's just play the game as it is. A game. You know, something to have fun with and enjoy.

The developer has included about 500 hours' worth of content, and that's just single-player. Isn't that enough for you?

I don't know about you, but I don't buy video games going "i wonder how i can exploit this game to pwn noobs online!!1"

Relambrien · 01-27-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeek

You know, something to have fun with and enjoy.

And as I've repeated countless times, finding things the devs didn't intend and using them to become as good as I possibly can IS fun. That IS playing the game. That's how I have fun, by becoming as good as I possibly can using any methods short of those deemed illegal by the community. This includes finding and utilizing exploits.

You don't have to accept why I feel like this, but I'd appreciate it if you accept that how you have fun isn't necessarily how others have fun. Simply playing the game as a casual party game isn't fun for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeek

The developer has included about 500 hours' worth of content, and that's just single-player. Isn't that enough for you?

Besides the fact that I highly doubt there will be 500 hours of meaningful content (meaning, 300 hours trying to get No Damage Clear for the Diskun trophy isn't meaningful), no, it isn't enough. I want to find out everything, because that's the kind of person I am. I like to have complete and total knowledge on subjects in which I take interest. I want to know as much about this game as possible.

tsugomaru · 01-27-2008, 08:13 PM

Wow, I didn't mean to start up an argument about wave-dashing again. Jesus you guys are all so quick to defend your stance on it.

~Tsugomaru

Relambrien · 01-27-2008, 08:18 PM

Well, I don't think wavedashing is the heart of the issue here, but rather, play styles. There are people like Squeek who have the most fun just playing a wacky casual party game, which is fine. Then there are people like me who have the most fun by improving my skill as much as I can, and knowing as much as I can. I'm much more competitive.

I just don't appreciate it when others consider their way to play the "proper" way to play. If others want to play casually, that's fine with me. I just don't want to. The beauty of Smash is that with all the customization, you can play whatever way you want, and if people prefer different ways to play, then all the better.

tsugomaru · 01-27-2008, 08:20 PM

It's going to turn into a wavedashing argument in the end. We've seen this at least 5 times now. In the same thread.

~Tsugomaru

arsonistsgetallthegirls · 01-27-2008, 08:21 PM

Whoa, whoa, people...

I never said that I wanted to find something wrong with the game or to exploit it in any way. I only said that given time, people can exploit the tiniest bug to be something major. Name any game, there's a glitch for it. No exceptions (well, sorta). Not even pong.

Relambrien · 01-27-2008, 08:22 PM

Tsug, that's why I'm trying to end it before it gets to that point.

Basically, long argument cut down really short:

Everyone plays differently. Some people are competitive. Some are casual. Neither is better than the other, and each have fun in different ways. They're still enjoying the game, so it's no one's place to say just how another should play.

I'm hoping we're all in agreement on that point, and can just let this whole "Exploits-playstyle-flamefest" thing go with that.

tsugomaru · 01-27-2008, 08:22 PM

Is restraining myself from starting an argument.

~Tsugomaru

arsonistsgetallthegirls · 01-27-2008, 08:32 PM

Sooo, how bout them masterpieces?

01-25-2008, 07:52 PM	#1521
Aleste stating the obvious. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA Age: 34 Posts: 337	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl i need to stop by and finally finish paying my copy off. i'm pretty sure the reservations at my store alone are over 100 now. That's... quite alot from such a small gamestop location "Limited quantities" is looking less like a rumor these days. __________________

01-26-2008, 12:22 AM	#1522
l2awr FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Georgia Age: 36 Posts: 523	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl eh I'll be playing the Japanese version of it about a week after it comes out. I can wait for the American version =]] I'm like 63 in line at my store.

01-27-2008, 02:00 PM	#1523
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ITP123 Demo kiosk gameplay of the Japanese game.

01-27-2008, 02:36 PM	#1524
Buttoxin FFR Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 278	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl I didn't do my research and I didn't read every post up to this point, but I do believe you couldn't play as Captain Falcon outside his car until SSB. Besides, Brawl has done some amazing things. What makes you (Squeek) think R.O.B. WILL NOT be playable? __________________

01-27-2008, 03:48 PM	#1529
Relambrien FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 32 Posts: 1,644	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Actually, it was like the first thing they said, since that's what people were most curious about. Now, wavelanding is still possible, but most likely impractical, by doing a ground-level glide into the ground. Not that it'll really matter until the game's been out for a while and everything starts to stabilize.

01-27-2008, 08:04 PM	#1532
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Hey, idea. Let's just play the game as it is. A game. You know, something to have fun with and enjoy. The developer has included about 500 hours' worth of content, and that's just single-player. Isn't that enough for you? I don't know about you, but I don't buy video games going "i wonder how i can exploit this game to pwn noobs online!!1" Last edited by Squeek; 01-27-2008 at 08:07 PM..

01-27-2008, 08:18 PM	#1535
Relambrien FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 32 Posts: 1,644	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Well, I don't think wavedashing is the heart of the issue here, but rather, play styles. There are people like Squeek who have the most fun just playing a wacky casual party game, which is fine. Then there are people like me who have the most fun by improving my skill as much as I can, and knowing as much as I can. I'm much more competitive. I just don't appreciate it when others consider their way to play the "proper" way to play. If others want to play casually, that's fine with me. I just don't want to. The beauty of Smash is that with all the customization, you can play whatever way you want, and if people prefer different ways to play, then all the better.

01-27-2008, 08:22 PM	#1538
Relambrien FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 32 Posts: 1,644	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Tsug, that's why I'm trying to end it before it gets to that point. Basically, long argument cut down really short: Everyone plays differently. Some people are competitive. Some are casual. Neither is better than the other, and each have fun in different ways. They're still enjoying the game, so it's no one's place to say just how another should play. I'm hoping we're all in agreement on that point, and can just let this whole "Exploits-playstyle-flamefest" thing go with that.

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