Turbo XII: Very Interesting Game - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Have you read my posts this phase?

I have.

I thought I explained the issue you brought up with me and Charu, but I'll go over it again in a second.
I'll take the time to explain why the emotions Eva showed lead me to townread her
I'm currently putting together a post literally just isolating freezin/lightknight to show why they're always W/W.
LIKE, LIGHTKNIGHT WOULDN'T EVEN SELF PRES ONTO FREEZIN, HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THIS

I'll do literally whatever else you want me to explain, just don't vote me until I'm done. If you really can't see me as town then, then at least I'll have literally done everything I could possibly do to convince you and won't hold myself responsible for another sweep
THAT'S ALL I ASK
just don't get triggerhappy

[FreezinIce]

Just sayin shado if your trying to push a false narrative you needed to do a whole lot better than me and lightknight. Can't even begin to see how this became a thing thru anything more than poe. Even me/charu seems more likely

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

That's just too easy imo to warrant a "98%".

Why is it too easy?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

The phrasing here sounds like you're a wolf who forgot to filter himself.

Just says he's a wolf, nothing else.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Why are you town reading me pretty hard after I spent the entire game with a world around 2 towns?

Because, like me, you're a special case of a town player. (IE: You call people wolves and never fucking get off it them because you're expecting them to do the impossible in a game where any action that's consider 100% is through host posts)

[Charu]

Literally you're "arguments" with shadow are fucking retarded.

And this is the last game I'm playing with you, seriously.

#madcharu

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Just sayin shado if your trying to push a false narrative you needed to do a whole lot better than me and lightknight. Can't even begin to see how this became a thing thru anything more than poe. Even me/charu seems more likely

Not gonna try defending your "reasons why Shado's a wolf"?

you/charu only seemed slightly likely considering the possiblity of a blindreper treatment happening, but I don't think Charu's a wolf and lightknight kind of gave it away when he wouldn't self pres to kill you, and you gave it away when you got off him as soon as the inD wagon presented itself.
I just literally can't believe it isn't this obvious to everyone else

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Not gonna try defending your "reasons why Shado's a wolf"?

you/charu only seemed slightly likely considering the possiblity of a blindreper treatment happening, but I don't think Charu's a wolf and lightknight kind of gave it away when he wouldn't self pres to kill you, and you gave it away when you got off him as soon as the inD wagon presented itself.
I just literally can't believe it isn't this obvious to everyone else

If you read my progression you'd see I got cold feet on lightknight the same way charu got cold feet on me.

Ofc id switch wagons once an opportunity presented itself

But your just cherry picking what suits your argument. Not suprising since you're a wolf

[FreezinIce]

At this point im just content to let people read both our cases, answer any questions they have and let them decide. There's literally no point in me answering you anymore

[Charu]

Alright, let me tackle your multi-quoted post about everyone, Haku, lets do this.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

The early game of ShadoWolfe / Charu has been fairly daring with Charu's "hunger" posts and ShadoWolfe potentially feeling uncomfortable with Charu's play.

There's a small team dynamic element here as well; the early double down.

Uh yeah, hey, let me just say that's called Shadowolfe being annoyed by all the d0 antics. I was suspecting him too right here during this time, however, I believe he really was just annoyed and wanted the game to not be that considering it's a turbo.

Plus, the little clash between freezin and him made me nod at his intentions.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I haven't seen ShadoWolfe / Charu doing a lot of game exploration early game. I've seen them mostly react to what was happening in a rather safe way. That makes me worried about them.

How is Shadow going at Freezin's throat CONSISTANTLY EACH FUCKING DAY "safe" in your world? The argument could sort of apply to me, but if you recall, I didn't like Cel suddenly first phase and expressed my desire of lynching him. I don't think that was a "safe" out for me if I were a wolf. Unless you see it differently? (Which of course you do, you're Hakulyte)

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

These two posts are making me pretty worried together. Please explain.
It makes me come to the conclusion "you're stressing me out as your wolf partner".

Uh, no, if you read WHY HE POSTED THAT he clearly states that HE THOUGHT I WAS THE VIGI. I was confused too, so unless me and him went "Oh wow, lets go and fake about you being the vigi and you being confused, Charu." Then okay buddy

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

This sounds like a fake case. You can't really get much out of it.

Hey, wow, check it out, if you read further into the phase where mellon asks me why I see him suspicious, I EXPLAIN MY REASON THERE. WOoooooooow

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

This post is special because me and Celirra asked ShadoWolfe about why he had Eva as a town read and he couldn't really explain himself much. He was just like "more towny than not".

It's called an emotion read. Something I surprise you seem lacking in.

...


There, is that what you wanted me to do, Haku?

[Hakulyte]

Yeah, that's a good answer Charu.

[FreezinIce]

Real talk this is the part of twg I hate the most

When I've nailed a wolf and having to deal with the incessant whining and backlash I get.

I made the mistake of easing off sunfan last game when he word vomited me mixed with AtE. Not making the fame mistake. Your done and if town can read theyll hang you.

Better muddy the waters more bro

[ShadoWolfe]

Literally quoting the entire context so no one can accuse me of cherrypicking

THIS IS THEIR PROGRESSION ON EACH OTHER (also bear in mind that DFR was also scumreading both lightknight and Freezin, while Haku's a wildcard kill) (also bear in mind that Freezin said some fake ass line about being surprised Haku didn't flip at the start of the phase and still hasn't explained it when I asked him about it)
:

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

Freezin is looking alright atm DFR whats going on man, sorry Im reading through old pages and I missed a few posts.

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

And suddenly InDheart appears to be viewing the thread somewhere within the time of me posting this.




I'd be going after Charu before mellon if I were a wolf. Or Haku. What was the incentive of killing mellon? Did the wolves get the vigi with a shot in the dark? I'm tryna say I feel like I'm being set up by inD here guys.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

im aware that indheart pocketed me for a while with him adding me to his towncore but im trying to escape.

haku whats your thoughts on indheart atm?

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

actually that question is @ everyone looking for outside takes on this to judge against what im seeing from him

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

what im seeing: started p bad, slowly trending upward via his analysis

Originally Posted by inDheart

that's a funny first line

^context for next line

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

imagine yourself trapped inside a giant pocket.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

its looking like ill have to self pres onto lightknight but if i was doing % it would be 60/40 lightknight/indheart

im worried im getting played by indheart and also that im missing something because i cant remember what haku is seeing from indheart thats wolfy

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I am not afraid of dieing, anytime will do. I don't mind.


Why should I be afraid of dieing? We've all got to go sometime.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

screenshot from one of my games on ffya when i was still fairly new. the similarities are haunting

not feeling good about a lightknight hit atm

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I want to keep my vote on freezin, despite what I said about InD, I still hold belief that inD is probably human in my gut, so that's all I can go for.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

wat.

still going to solve between indheart/lightknight but picking between them atm is hard

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 585 to post 1047
Night in 0:04:35
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- FreezinIce -- Lightknight924 (17), ShadoWolfe (45), danceflashrevo (30)
• 2 -- Lightknight924 -- Charu (102), Hakulyte (75)
• 1 -- ShadoWolfe -- FreezinIce (86)
• 1 -- unvote -- inDheart (75)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

InDheart This is off of gut feeling.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 585 to post 1059
Night in 0:02:16
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- Lightknight924 -- Charu (104), Hakulyte (77)
• 2 -- FreezinIce -- ShadoWolfe (46), danceflashrevo (31)
• 1 -- inDheart -- Lightknight924 (18)
• 1 -- ShadoWolfe -- FreezinIce (88)
• 1 -- unvote -- inDheart (77)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I know I'm human so final thoughts are, if it comes down to me, its between freezin and inDheart

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

lightknight

ffr forums vomiting all over me

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 585 to post 1068
Night in 0:01:08
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- FreezinIce -- ShadoWolfe (47), danceflashrevo (32)
• 2 -- Lightknight924 -- Charu (105), FreezinIce (89)
• 2 -- inDheart -- Lightknight924 (20), Hakulyte (78)
• 1 -- unvote -- inDheart (78)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

oh nice indheart is a thing

indheart

Those last few posts tell it all
lightknight sees he's 3/2 on Freezin, moves his vote even though he'd need to selfpres, Freezin gets on lightknight, realizes he has a safe alt wagon, and they both get on inD

[ShadoWolfe]

@Haku you were surprised you didn't die, right? Tell me who's more likely to kill you, me/charu or Freezin/inD?

You're a wildcard with crazy reads and we'd already been disagreeing on reads
DFR was agreeing with a lightknight/freezin world

IF WOLFTEAM WAS ME/CHARU THERE'S NO WAY WE KILL DFR POINTLESSLY WHEN WE'D BOTH BEEN READING HIM TOWN AND HE WAS READING FREEZIN/LIGHT WOLF

^^^^^^^^^^^

it makes no sense

now re-read Freezin's post about "being surprised the wolves didn't kill Haku" again and tell me it isn't fake

kk gonna address your other questions now but please be reasonable!

[Charu]

Alright, well it's clear this actual "thunderdome" is between you two.

Shadow's already done a lot of the footwork, Freezin. I want to see you tear apart his posts, word from word, and present them to the best of your ability to the thread.

If you see something that's super contradictory or something that can break Shadow's stance on you, then maybe I'll think between the two of you.

Because as is, Freezin, when the time comes, I'm putting the vote on you, win or lose. I believe Shadow to be the town person here. He's interacted with me in both accusatory and friendly matter (Recall him constantly changing his mind about me).

I want you to break that world for me, because I've already read through Shadow's post. All of his points to me seem to be under a town banner. Show me that it's not, and I'll give my thoughts for this EoD.

[Hakulyte]

I'm currently doing that reread where I assume Charu / Shado is town.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Real talk this is the part of twg I hate the most

When I've nailed a wolf and having to deal with the incessant whining and backlash I get.

I made the mistake of easing off sunfan last game when he word vomited me mixed with AtE. Not making the fame mistake. Your done and if town can read theyll hang you.

Better muddy the waters more bro

nice. great job "nailing a wolf", ScumminIce. literally that feeling has been mutual since yesterday, but guess who chose to avoid the thunderdome? you. I can see why, now. One less person scumreading you to worry about (DFR)
Great job dude, 10/10 would tear my hair out about again

seems like the only reasons you can say you're "scumreading me" is "sunfan did this last game" and "gut". the other reasons have all been shat on and you don't even bother defending them
ironic, talking about "word vomit"
ironic, talking about "muddy the waters"

you're not even trying

I'M LITERALLY CHALLENGING YOU TO GO FIND WHY YOU THINK I'M WOLFY
all you're doing is sitting there waiting for Haku to vote
fucking A I wish we literally had anyone else to decide because my caring is reaching its breaking point, I just HATE losing and hate getting swept even more

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm currently doing that reread where I assume Charu / Shado is town.

See, this is probably why you're reasons are loony toon tier

Don't read the thread "assuming" player x/y are "town/wolf/pr"

That's not thinking logically, that's just playing with a bias of assumption of. "Oh, well since this person did this because I'm assuming they're town, then it must be right!"

No dude, is this how you've always played? Seriously consider changing how you play then, please.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charu

See, this is probably why you're reasons are loony toon tier

Don't read the thread "assuming" player x/y are "town/wolf/pr"

That's not thinking logically, that's just playing with a bias of assumption of. "Oh, well since this person did this because I'm assuming they're town, then it must be right!"

No dude, is this how you've always played? Seriously consider changing how you play then, please.

PS

You know that game Freezin brought? The one where I hard cleared neeee due to me mistaken a mechanical error?

That's what "assuming player x is town" does, Haku.

[Charu]

Or, in your case.

That's what "assuming player x is wolf."

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

@Haku you were surprised you didn't die, right? Tell me who's more likely to kill you, me/charu or Freezin/inD?

You're a wildcard with crazy reads and we'd already been disagreeing on reads
DFR was agreeing with a lightknight/freezin world

IF WOLFTEAM WAS ME/CHARU THERE'S NO WAY WE KILL DFR POINTLESSLY WHEN WE'D BOTH BEEN READING HIM TOWN AND HE WAS READING FREEZIN/LIGHT WOLF

^^^^^^^^^^^

it makes no sense

now re-read Freezin's post about "being surprised the wolves didn't kill Haku" again and tell me it isn't fake

kk gonna address your other questions now but please be reasonable!

Your telling me to pick apart his arguements but alot of his points are just opinions.

I was suprising haku didn't get killed because letting a confirmed town into lylo is godawful. I certainly wasn't town reading DFR so leaving him alive would make the most sense from a perspective of net gain for wolves.

His point about not killing DFR is just wifom.

You also ignored that DFR got off me and into lightknight which saved my life and put indheart in danger. Not that I buy much into your coordinating vote theory because ffr forums were lagging like a bitch, to the point where I thought I had died and didn't even see the last few votes which kept me alive. If ffr forums were not spazzing I'm sure indheart would have saw the votes and had time to self pres onto another wagon.

That's my take on events. Nothing is definitive, you have to choose what to believe as town. As much as I'd like to find a flaw in his logic the fact that he's not using logic to argue against me prevents that. It's his take on events vs mine. Mine is simpler and more plausible than his conspiracy theory so I believe that gives me the edge

[Hakulyte]

Just give me some time. I spent most of this game in a world that doesn't exist. (wolf Eva / inDheart)

I only got on you two by PoE, but I didn't finish reevaluating yet. I wrote this wall thing by assuming FreezinIce / LightKnight are town.

I'm currently reread with the stance of Charu / ShadoWolfe is town.

Once I'm done, I'm going to compare both and see what leads to the better decision.

Don't lose hope yet.