TWG XV - #twgxv (Humans Win. Huzzah.) - Page 6

**alainbryden** · 05-8-2005, 07:56 PM

I waited a long time to decide, but mead gets it for his Spheroid persuit without there being any true conviction for Spheroid, especially after I posted the hypothetical situation and then Chardish made his vote, suspicious as it was.

05-8-2005, 07:58 PM

"Suspicious as it was?" Care to explain yourself?

**alainbryden** · 05-8-2005, 08:03 PM

Simple. I posted a long shot of a story about Spheroids post, which Tass summarised in his post, and I didn't consider it to be a very strong possibility, I just didn't put it past him. You swept in and seemed to take it fairly seriously though.

GuidoHunter · 05-8-2005, 08:03 PM

I've seen a lot of chat logs and forum posts, and two people stick out: LD and Tps. A lot of people in this game are proving extremely human in my eyes but these two are not on that list. I do, however, really want to vote for Flypie just so we can get rid of her, but I know that every time I feel this rage it's because she's acting normal (that is, human).

I really think LD's been acting off. He once told me that he becomes really disinterested with TWGs when he's just a regular human and his post frequency seems to support that, but I don't think I see disinterest in his posts. Seems to be more of wolfish uncertainty and not playing his normal human game.

I'm willing to give Tps some more time (although what was with that Flypie vote? Please see above that it's normal for her to pull crap like that) and check him out, so I'm placing my vote for lightdarkness.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

blahblah18 · 05-8-2005, 08:09 PM

ok here I am.. I'm in the comp lab, with my whole group watching me write this as i told them I had to quickly make a post on some forum haha...

ok i read the thread and feel that despite what tass said, that my top suspicion right now is with talisman I know this is a bit of a waste vote since no one else has voted him, and since im' not around to convince a plurality of people of my thought process. But I also don't like the convo with alain, and the vote from one to the other is a tactic that he's used before... I'm also fiarly suspicious of kefit, and those would be my top 3 choices if asked right now

**alainbryden** · 05-8-2005, 08:23 PM

Talking to Tass and he really does have a point with LD. He also gives mead more credit for his bandwaggoning than I do. I will respect that it is probably the better choice today and vote lightdarkness.

**aperson** · 05-8-2005, 08:29 PM

I've come to this conclusion after debate and discussion with Alain and Tass in the chat. I'm stuck between Alain and LD, but at this point I feel that Alain could be a large loss for the humans is he is indeed human. However, LD has been acting very strange to me. He has been online all day, yet he has avoided TWG. Instead of showing a disinterest, he has instead had a strange, sketchy nature that I can't really put my finger on.

I hate to leave a vote to poor reasoning like this, but I'd rather lay my vote to logic than to chance by putting alain and LD in a knife in the box situation. I'm going to vote for Lightdarkness

**alainbryden** · 05-8-2005, 08:43 PM

I was really unsure, jumping LD without talking to him before hand, but

Quote:

TasselFoot: wanted to know about the blues
NEIGH006: ...
NEIGH006: was he joking?
TasselFoot: no
TasselFoot: wanted to know if they contacted me
TasselFoot: "can we talk TWG?"
TasselFoot: "have the blues contacted you?"
TasselFoot: i wouldn't answer....
TasselFoot: "ok. i'll assume at least 1 did."

So I feel more comfortable keeping the vote now.

Spheroid · 05-8-2005, 08:47 PM

Well, since I haven't played a twg before, I don't really know ld's strategey, so I'd rather not place my vote on him. From what I've heard, in chat and on this thread, he has been acting very different, and from what Guido stated, that's very likely to signal him beeing a wolf. I am jumping on Ld, but I haven't been able to find a different person I'm more suspicious of. Anyway, it's better than just random voting someone I really don't suspect to avoid a phantom.

**alainbryden** · 05-8-2005, 09:00 PM

**Kilgamayan** · 05-8-2005, 09:06 PM

When I said 1:15 AM I meant 1:15 AM by my computer clock.

That's still 6 minutes away.

I have no idea what the conversion from my clock to FFR time is. Calculate it yourself, I have a story to start writing.

kthx

**Kilgamayan** · 05-8-2005, 09:12 PM

thread go DIES

Kilga's Guide To Warp-Speed Turnarounds:

Spheroid: 2 (chardish, mead)
Jurs: 1 (flypie)
alain: 2 (talisman, whorli)
ap: 2 (Kefit, nforcer)
nforcer: 1 (LD)
flypie: 2 (Matt, Tps)
Mead: 1 (Neo)
Neo: 1 (Jurs)
LD: 5 (Tass, Guido, alain, ap, Spheroid)
talisman: 1 (blah)

Story in a bit. I wanna get this one out so I can go to bed for my 10 AM final today.

**Kilgamayan** · 05-8-2005, 09:24 PM

<lightdarkess> What the heck? You think I did this?
<Tasselfoot> We wouldn't have voted otherwise.
<chardish> Besides, maybe this will teach you to write a good story.
<lightdarkness> I'm serious, I didn't do it!
<Kilgamayan> So be it. Out the door with you.
<lightdarkness> That's a really stupid reason to get rid of me
* aperson plays the Death March
<lightdarkness> Oh come on :(
<lightdarkness> I'll give you Site Admin if you believe me
<lightdarkness> Seriously
* Kilgamayan sets mode: +b *!*@ld42.ny.comcast.net
<Kefit> FINISH HIM!
* lightdarkness was kicked by Kilgamayan (Get the fuck out)
<alainbryden> FATALITY
<Kilgamayan> I'm going to go run a virus scan to make sure he didn't screw with anything.
<Kilgamayan> brb
<flypie743> What a way to go =\

---

Went from zero to voted off the island in an hour AND got mocked twice in the story. Ouch.

It is now Night 2. PMs from those I require them of, please.

Psychic, you will recieve your report at the beginning of Day 2, assuming you live to see it.

**lightdarkness** · 05-9-2005, 02:26 AM

**Kilgamayan** · 05-9-2005, 05:43 AM

UR B& STFU

**Kilgamayan** · 05-9-2005, 08:55 AM

<Kilgamayan> Well, system appears to be okay
<aperson> Aside from the anime you have on it.
<Kilgamayan> :(
<Spheroid> lol
<Spheroid> pwned
<nforcer06164> ...
<mead1> o_O
<aperson> What the fuck?
<Spheroid> wut
<GuidoHunter> Speak like a halfway intelligent human being, please.
<Spheroid> wtf is ur problem
* Kilgamayan sets mode: +b *!*@67.534.578951.24601
<JurseyRider734> Uh oh, here comes the ban hammer.
* Spheroid was kicked by Kilgamayan (OUT! OUT, YOU DEMONS OF STUPIDITY!)
<chardish> What the hell happened to him?
<Kilgamayan> Gotta be that virus. Someone must have sent it to him.

---

blahblah18
nforcer06164
JurseyRider734
chardish
Tasselfoot
aperson
flypie743
whorlichan
talisman
Kefit
mead1
Tps222
GuidoHunter
Neonatrias
alainbryden
Matthew4444

It is now Day 2, and Spheroid has been killed. There are 16 of you left, so 9 votes is an instalynch.

The day will end Midnight EST Wednesday/Thursday. That's going by MY clock, which is about 3-4 minutes behind FFR's. Normally I don't do this but because of my Friday/Saturday schedules I want to be able to update Thursday and end the day on Sunday.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-9-2005, 09:06 AM

To start off.... these were the people who were online between 1am and when kilga said:

bjstrattonim: Oh, it seems I have all my necessary information.
bjstrattonim: Lemme start writing a story.

chardish
ap
blah
guido
whorli
TPS - only on for 19 seconds
talisman
alain
kefit
neon - been idle since around 12:30am

wasn't online: nforcer, flypie, jurs, matt, mead

So (and I know ap will criticize this)... the only people who were active to discuss a wolf kill were chardish, blah, alain, ap, kefit, whorli, talisman, guido, MAYBE neon, but it wasn't until after he went idle that LD got most of his votes.

Now, I know that blues/reds can give their preference or even message Kilga with their choice before the day is over, so... this is definately not scientific...

So... of those... I'm most concerned about Alain and ap, still. My guess is that AT LEAST 2 of the 4 are from that overall group of 8, if not more. There had to be at least 2 online during that timeframe to discuss strategy. Likely there were at least 3, if not all 4 (assuming LD was human). Wolves wouldn't make a decision without at least talking to 3 of the 4... although if LD was a wolf, I could see 2 of them discussing and agreeing without including the 3rd.

**alainbryden** · 05-9-2005, 09:39 AM

Tass, I need not remind you that you pushed me so hard saying that mead did not deserve a vote and LD did. In addition to this, I went to bed before 1:00 am. Finally, I think your time logging is absolutely irrelevant. Infact, just because you're doing it, the wolves are surely all going to be all offline at some point for the night and give kilga their commands by means you cannot detect, just because it's so obviously the way to evade this 'strategy' you're flaunting publicly.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-9-2005, 09:45 AM

[12:51] bjstrattonim: I'm finishing up the story now.
[12:59] bjstrattonim: Update.

[11:38] TasselFoot: i see you.....
[11:38] neigh006: hey hey
[11:38] neigh006: ffr just went down : (
[11:39] TasselFoot:

[11:39] neigh006: but the thread hasn't been updated yet

so.... you WEREN'T online this morning before the thread was updated? Hmm....

And, of course the strategy won't work well anymore. but the point is that this one act has likely reduced the number of suspects in my mind from 15 to about 7 or 8. 50% reduction sure isn't bad in my mind.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-9-2005, 09:51 AM

Also... I never once pressed you to vote LD. I DID press you to not vote mead, as his behavior yesterday was completely identical to his normal behavior. And the bandwagon onto Spheroid is so absolutely stupid for a wolf to do (unless both alain and ap are also wolves), when the wolves could have a much better time getting alain or ap... spheroid is a terrible lynching. Wolfing is different.

So, yea... I pressed to change off Mead. Never pressed for LD. You asked me questions about LDs convo with me on AIM, and I answered. That's it.

05-8-2005, 07:56 PM	#101
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	I waited a long time to decide, but mead gets it for his Spheroid persuit without there being any true conviction for Spheroid, especially after I posted the hypothetical situation and then Chardish made his vote, suspicious as it was. __________________ ~NEIGH

05-8-2005, 08:03 PM	#103
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	Simple. I posted a long shot of a story about Spheroids post, which Tass summarised in his post, and I didn't consider it to be a very strong possibility, I just didn't put it past him. You swept in and seemed to take it fairly seriously though. __________________ ~NEIGH

05-8-2005, 08:09 PM	#105
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	ok here I am.. I'm in the comp lab, with my whole group watching me write this as i told them I had to quickly make a post on some forum haha... ok i read the thread and feel that despite what tass said, that my top suspicion right now is with talisman I know this is a bit of a waste vote since no one else has voted him, and since im' not around to convince a plurality of people of my thought process. But I also don't like the convo with alain, and the vote from one to the other is a tactic that he's used before... I'm also fiarly suspicious of kefit, and those would be my top 3 choices if asked right now __________________ but for now... postCount++

05-8-2005, 08:23 PM	#106
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	Talking to Tass and he really does have a point with LD. He also gives mead more credit for his bandwaggoning than I do. I will respect that it is probably the better choice today and vote lightdarkness. __________________ ~NEIGH

05-8-2005, 08:29 PM	#107
aperson FFR Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 3,428	I've come to this conclusion after debate and discussion with Alain and Tass in the chat. I'm stuck between Alain and LD, but at this point I feel that Alain could be a large loss for the humans is he is indeed human. However, LD has been acting very strange to me. He has been online all day, yet he has avoided TWG. Instead of showing a disinterest, he has instead had a strange, sketchy nature that I can't really put my finger on. I hate to leave a vote to poor reasoning like this, but I'd rather lay my vote to logic than to chance by putting alain and LD in a knife in the box situation. I'm going to vote for Lightdarkness __________________

05-8-2005, 07:58 PM	#102
User6773 Guest Posts: n/a	"Suspicious as it was?" Care to explain yourself?

05-8-2005, 08:47 PM	#109
Spheroid FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Free Press Ltd. Posts: 412	Well, since I haven't played a twg before, I don't really know ld's strategey, so I'd rather not place my vote on him. From what I've heard, in chat and on this thread, he has been acting very different, and from what Guido stated, that's very likely to signal him beeing a wolf. I am jumping on Ld, but I haven't been able to find a different person I'm more suspicious of. Anyway, it's better than just random voting someone I really don't suspect to avoid a phantom. __________________ G-Bin Press Issue 4 G-Bin Press Issue 3 G-Bin Press Issue 2 G-Bin Press Issue 1

05-8-2005, 09:00 PM	#110
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	__________________ ~NEIGH

05-8-2005, 09:06 PM	#111
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	When I said 1:15 AM I meant 1:15 AM by my computer clock. That's still 6 minutes away. I have no idea what the conversion from my clock to FFR time is. Calculate it yourself, I have a story to start writing. kthx __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

05-8-2005, 09:12 PM	#112
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	thread go DIES Kilga's Guide To Warp-Speed Turnarounds: Spheroid: 2 (chardish, mead) Jurs: 1 (flypie) alain: 2 (talisman, whorli) ap: 2 (Kefit, nforcer) nforcer: 1 (LD) flypie: 2 (Matt, Tps) Mead: 1 (Neo) Neo: 1 (Jurs) LD: 5 (Tass, Guido, alain, ap, Spheroid) talisman: 1 (blah) Story in a bit. I wanna get this one out so I can go to bed for my 10 AM final today. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

05-8-2005, 09:24 PM	#113
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	<lightdarkess> What the heck? You think I did this? <Tasselfoot> We wouldn't have voted otherwise. <chardish> Besides, maybe this will teach you to write a good story. <lightdarkness> I'm serious, I didn't do it! <Kilgamayan> So be it. Out the door with you. <lightdarkness> That's a really stupid reason to get rid of me * aperson plays the Death March <lightdarkness> Oh come on :( <lightdarkness> I'll give you Site Admin if you believe me <lightdarkness> Seriously * Kilgamayan sets mode: +b !@ld42.ny.comcast.net <Kefit> FINISH HIM! * lightdarkness was kicked by Kilgamayan (Get the fuck out) <alainbryden> FATALITY <Kilgamayan> I'm going to go run a virus scan to make sure he didn't screw with anything. <Kilgamayan> brb <flypie743> What a way to go =\ --- Went from zero to voted off the island in an hour AND got mocked twice in the story. Ouch. It is now Night 2. PMs from those I require them of, please. Psychic, you will recieve your report at the beginning of Day 2, assuming you live to see it. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

05-9-2005, 02:26 AM	#114
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	wow __________________

05-9-2005, 05:43 AM	#115
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	UR B& STFU __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

05-9-2005, 08:55 AM	#116
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	<Kilgamayan> Well, system appears to be okay <aperson> Aside from the anime you have on it. <Kilgamayan> :( <Spheroid> lol <Spheroid> pwned <nforcer06164> ... <mead1> o_O <aperson> What the fuck? <Spheroid> wut <GuidoHunter> Speak like a halfway intelligent human being, please. <Spheroid> wtf is ur problem * Kilgamayan sets mode: +b !@67.534.578951.24601 <JurseyRider734> Uh oh, here comes the ban hammer. * Spheroid was kicked by Kilgamayan (OUT! OUT, YOU DEMONS OF STUPIDITY!) <chardish> What the hell happened to him? <Kilgamayan> Gotta be that virus. Someone must have sent it to him. --- blahblah18 nforcer06164 JurseyRider734 chardish Tasselfoot aperson flypie743 whorlichan talisman Kefit mead1 Tps222 GuidoHunter Neonatrias alainbryden Matthew4444 It is now Day 2, and Spheroid has been killed. There are 16 of you left, so 9 votes is an instalynch. The day will end Midnight EST Wednesday/Thursday. That's going by MY clock, which is about 3-4 minutes behind FFR's. Normally I don't do this but because of my Friday/Saturday schedules I want to be able to update Thursday and end the day on Sunday. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

05-9-2005, 09:06 AM	#117
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	To start off.... these were the people who were online between 1am and when kilga said: bjstrattonim: Oh, it seems I have all my necessary information. bjstrattonim: Lemme start writing a story. chardish ap blah guido whorli TPS - only on for 19 seconds talisman alain kefit neon - been idle since around 12:30am wasn't online: nforcer, flypie, jurs, matt, mead So (and I know ap will criticize this)... the only people who were active to discuss a wolf kill were chardish, blah, alain, ap, kefit, whorli, talisman, guido, MAYBE neon, but it wasn't until after he went idle that LD got most of his votes. Now, I know that blues/reds can give their preference or even message Kilga with their choice before the day is over, so... this is definately not scientific... So... of those... I'm most concerned about Alain and ap, still. My guess is that AT LEAST 2 of the 4 are from that overall group of 8, if not more. There had to be at least 2 online during that timeframe to discuss strategy. Likely there were at least 3, if not all 4 (assuming LD was human). Wolves wouldn't make a decision without at least talking to 3 of the 4... although if LD was a wolf, I could see 2 of them discussing and agreeing without including the 3rd. __________________ RIP

05-9-2005, 09:39 AM	#118
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	Tass, I need not remind you that you pushed me so hard saying that mead did not deserve a vote and LD did. In addition to this, I went to bed before 1:00 am. Finally, I think your time logging is absolutely irrelevant. Infact, just because you're doing it, the wolves are surely all going to be all offline at some point for the night and give kilga their commands by means you cannot detect, just because it's so obviously the way to evade this 'strategy' you're flaunting publicly. __________________ ~NEIGH

05-9-2005, 09:45 AM	#119
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	[12:51] bjstrattonim: I'm finishing up the story now. [12:59] bjstrattonim: Update. [11:38] TasselFoot: i see you..... [11:38] neigh006: hey hey [11:38] neigh006: ffr just went down : ( [11:39] TasselFoot: [11:39] neigh006: but the thread hasn't been updated yet so.... you WEREN'T online this morning before the thread was updated? Hmm.... And, of course the strategy won't work well anymore. but the point is that this one act has likely reduced the number of suspects in my mind from 15 to about 7 or 8. 50% reduction sure isn't bad in my mind. __________________ RIP

05-9-2005, 09:51 AM	#120
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Also... I never once pressed you to vote LD. I DID press you to not vote mead, as his behavior yesterday was completely identical to his normal behavior. And the bandwagon onto Spheroid is so absolutely stupid for a wolf to do (unless both alain and ap are also wolves), when the wolves could have a much better time getting alain or ap... spheroid is a terrible lynching. Wolfing is different. So, yea... I pressed to change off Mead. Never pressed for LD. You asked me questions about LDs convo with me on AIM, and I answered. That's it. __________________ RIP

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