Should drugs be illegal?

[psychoangel691]

Something I've noticed with me is I've become more adverse to alcohol being legal since being pregnant. I remember on the night before Halloween I had to pick AJ up from work at midnight and all I could think was man I really hope there's no drunks on the road from Halloween parties.

If people could be responsible there would be no issues with alcohol or marijuana even because in moderation it's not that bad. But I mean how can we stop the abusers that ruin it for others? The laws being in place obviously don't work because people do it anyway.

[MrRubix]

It's an unfortunate emergence of knowledge -- we can't uninvent alcohol (nor would we want to). If we make it illegal, we have problems to deal with. If we make it legal, we still have problems to deal with. If it had a clear answer, it wouldn't be such a heated topic.

I think we're ultimately better off keeping alcohol legal as long as we also promote proper education about it from an early age.

[legato210]

Its terrible to say, that its just easier to promote and advocate certain drugs.

three prime examples are nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol. perfectly integrated into society that these drugs are okay. why? they fit in well within or around the work place.

many companies have outings to the bars because that's just most of our accepted social ice breakers.

many people love to get together after a great meal and smoke a cigarette and talk to everyone outside. why? continuing social fix.

I can't really see an instance where the salary men/women get together one work morning, and have bagged out shrooms and viles of acid on the tables, ready to get to business.

I wish it were so, but many people still seem to have way too many boundaries to dissolve before those sort of agents can be socially accepted or even utilized for that matter.


tldr; if you do drugs, do your research and use your own educated reason.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

It's an unfortunate emergence of knowledge -- we can't uninvent alcohol (nor would we want to). If we make it illegal, we have problems to deal with. If we make it legal, we still have problems to deal with. If it had a clear answer, it wouldn't be such a heated topic.

I think we're ultimately better off keeping alcohol legal as long as we also promote proper education about it from an early age.

The problem is no matter what there are people that wont get properly educated. Most parents suck at doing so and expect the schools to do it and most schools aren't very good anymore (the unfortunate truth)

Then there's also the kids that are well educated about it but then do it to rebel against mommy and daddy or something of the sort. There was this kid when I was living in long valley which is a richy area of NJ his parents went away to italy or something and he took out the Corvette drunk and ended up crashing the thing UP in a tree somehow. He died at 17yrs old and there are many other stories like that. Luckly he didn't take anyone else with him but it's still unfortunate that a young life was lost like that.

[Syhto]

Hello cc

Weed is good

Cya

[fido123]

Originally Posted by legato210

I can't really see an instance where the salary men/women get together one work morning, and have bagged out shrooms and viles of acid on the tables, ready to get to business.

I wish it were so, but many people still seem to have way too many boundaries to dissolve before those sort of agents can be socially accepted or even utilized for that matter.

Although I agree with the rest of your statement, a big reason you don't do shrooms/acid at work is because you wouldn't be able to get any work done, of at least anything near decent quality done.

[DJMillaMusic]

Ecstasy puts holes inya' brains.

[thunderstrike687]

Originally Posted by DJMillaMusic

Ecstasy puts holes inya' brains.

Negative ghostrider, the guy who wrote that article already admitted he "accidentally" mixed up MDMA with methamphetamine. I <3 crooked research

[Emo_Saur_]

So much research is to find negative effects on the body/brain. What's up with a marginally less research on the positive effects? I posted earlier in the thread about MDMA which is pure E is basically. I have no problem with pure, but people start to mix Meth, TFMPP, BZP. ****'s not right. Cocaine, Meth, Acid, Bromo Dragonfly is all bad ****, and shouldn't be legal what so ever. I'm all for the legalization of any synthetic pot, Marijuana, Shrooms, Rolls.

[thunderstrike687]

Originally Posted by Emo_Saur_

So much research is to find negative effects on the body/brain. What's up with a marginally less research on the positive effects? I posted earlier in the thread about MDMA which is pure E is basically. I have no problem with pure, but people start to mix Meth, TFMPP, BZP. ****'s not right. Cocaine, Meth, Acid, Bromo Dragonfly is all bad ****, and shouldn't be legal what so ever. I'm all for the legalization of any synthetic pot, Marijuana, Shrooms, Rolls.

i agree with a lot of what you said, minus the part about LSD. LSD isnt dangerous whatsoever, and has plenty of therapeutic psychiatric uses, and I cannot for the life of me understand why you would be in favor of the legalization of shrooms if you arent in favor of the legalization of LSD. js.

[Emo_Saur_]

I guess I have not read much on LSD, I'll research a little. I'm going on life experiences and a little bit of school knowledge.

[MrGiggles]

http://erowid.org

Pretty good site for some basic drug info.

[aperson]

http://google.com

pretty good site

[who_cares973]

no one uses yahoo anymore

[DJMillaMusic]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

no one uses yahoo anymore

Yahoo < Google

[Iam90]

mushrooms are far more mentally exhausting and anxiety driven than LSD

[Emo_Saur_]

Originally Posted by aperson

http://google.com

pretty good site

I've been reading, actually I used google.

I've done shrooms before, nasty little things. I hate quite the night though.

[Syhto]

human rights

[~kitty~]

I feel inclined to say things about this. It took me a while to read all of those posts, and I have many things I would like to say. First thing is that I believe to an extent it should be "decriminalized," not legalized. Second thing is that, I agree with most people that the harder drugs should probably remain illegal, for that even if they were legal, there'll still be problems (or maybe even more). There are people who do drugs because it's illegal, and there are people who don't do drugs because it is illegal. However, there's also a factor that there are people who do stupid harmful things to themselves because it is legal e.g. smoking, drinking, caffeine overdose, OTC and Prescription abuse (this part is debatable).

I also want to comment on the fact that the reason alcohol will never become illegal is because there are already so many users, people will most definitely bootleg and abuse even more than they were before then. However, I think a possible solution to reducing abuse is to increase the drinking age, because our brains are not fully developed at 21, and I have doubts that people will start drinking more because of the increase of the age.

For those who think these drugs don't harm others, that's not true, it does in indirect ways sometimes. It's similar, in a way, to the debate about public smoking. The fact is that when you smoke in public, it's not about whether it's harmful to others or not... it's a matter of freedom. Anyway, I'll end there before I start super-rambling, and I'll come up with more things to say later.

edit: Also, about the gang thing, I doubt it will change much with gangs, because there are also a lot of gangs that form for the purpose of terrorism.

[DJMillaMusic]

Originally Posted by Syhto

human rights

Lady Gaga.