TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD - Page 55

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I really hate you for making me explain this.

Let's say AA is a strong town.
Wolves target AA N1.

If AA is town, he dies.
If AA is wolf, the wolves have found another partner and he stays alive.
As long as 1 of the 3 wolves targeted 1 town, they will get a lynch.

win/win

that's what I thought but that's not quite how it works

because there are 3 wolves and they all submit a kill, they have no idea if they've hit a partner or if their partner's kill was overridden

now obviously if there's no NK then they've confirmed a partner, but otherwise they can't say for sure

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:52 PM

*or if their kill was overridden

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

@AA

You said you would play this game like you were town if you were a wolf previously.

How do I know it's not exactly what is going on right now?

You have a massive amount of posts, you've pushed everyone a little, you've been pro-active etc.

fmpov you're trying too hard to project town.

I mean, I would expect you to not play like that if you didn't actually want to get NK'd early.

MML/Storn/T-Force sounds like the reasonable EoD if I listen blindly to everyone. I want to believe the game is not that easy.

I had this conversation with sunfan about me getting N1d

he said two things: roll wolf or post worse (latter was a joke)

I will not post worse just to avoid being N1d

I'd rather stop playing

so fuck off

**Charu** · 12-4-2016, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I really hate you for making me explain this.

Let's say AA is a strong town.
Wolves target AA N1.

If AA is town, he dies.
If AA is wolf, the wolves have found another partner and he stays alive.
As long as 1 of the 3 wolves targeted 1 town, they will get a lynch.

win/win

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox

Werewolves:
All three wolf members are lone. There is no coordination, there is no quicktopic, but they have powers to make up for their aimless wandering.
Wolves will all private message the mod with their choice for the kill at night. If there is not a majority, one random name from the three choices will be selected.
On Night 1, any choices that are another wolf will be thrown out. If all choices are thrown out, there will be no night kill.
If a wolf dies via lynch, the same Night 1 protection will be granted to the wolves for the next night.

Oh

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:54 PM

top 3 lynches

Haku -
AA - T-force, storn, MML
aryxi -
charu - T-force, storn, MML
danceguy - T-force, aryxi
dfr - aryxi, storn, MML
MML -
choof - t-force, storn, aryxi
storn -
dadcop - t-force, storn, freezin
t-force - aryxi, freezin, MML
pazzaz - MML, aryxi, storn
freezin - storn, t-force, aryxi

**Hakulyte** · 12-4-2016, 05:54 PM

I don't even know what "quicktopic" means here.

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:55 PM

hey haku remember FE game

shado scumread me for similarities to hydra game 7

he backed off when he realized the only similarity was that I was posting townily

if you're actually going to push for me because I'm trying too hard to project town then I will ignore you for the rest of the day

because your logic isn't even correct, as I pointed out in these two posts

Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

that's what I thought but that's not quite how it works

because there are 3 wolves and they all submit a kill, they have no idea if they've hit a partner or if their partner's kill was overridden

now obviously if there's no NK then they've confirmed a partner, but otherwise they can't say for sure

Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

*or if their kill was overridden

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I really hate you for making me explain this.

Let's say AA is a strong town.
Wolves target AA N1.

If AA is town, he dies.
If AA is wolf, the wolves have found another partner and he stays alive.
As long as 1 of the 3 wolves targeted 1 town, they will get a lynch.

win/win

also wrong if wolf consensus isn't on me or if it's not randomed on me

try again

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I don't even know what "quicktopic" means here.

private chat

wolves have

zero

communication

**T-Force** · 12-4-2016, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I don't even know what "quicktopic" means here.

Usually a private chat/forum for wolves to talk to each other during nightphase.

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 05:58 PM

let me draw a scenario out for you just so we can be crystal clear

players A, B, C, D, E, F, G

A, B, C are wolves

A targets B
B targets D
C targets E

A targets B, kill is thrown out
target is randomed between D and E
D dies

oh! A knows B is his partner now, right?

nope

because they don't know that B failed to die because they're A's partner, all they see is that D dies so it could mean the kill on D was chosen over the kill on B

**Hakulyte** · 12-4-2016, 05:59 PM

They may not even need communication depending on how their kill confirmation works.

**Hakulyte** · 12-4-2016, 06:00 PM

Is there an explanations as to why the sent kill was a miss?

I don't see anything in the OP about it.

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 06:00 PM

I'm leaving thread for an hour I can't deal with this

**AragakiAyase** · 12-4-2016, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox

Werewolves:
All three wolf members are lone. There is no coordination, there is no quicktopic, but they have powers to make up for their aimless wandering.
Wolves will all private message the mod with their choice for the kill at night. If there is not a majority, one random name from the three choices will be selected.
On Night 1, any choices that are another wolf will be thrown out. If all choices are thrown out, there will be no night kill.
If a wolf dies via lynch, the same Night 1 protection will be granted to the wolves for the next night.

good fucking god haku read the OP

**T-Force** · 12-4-2016, 06:02 PM

I also think Haku is assuming that the wolves would triple stack on you (AA) if they were to kill you, or double-stack as you are the third.

Either way, I think he's trying to say you'd be the top candidate to be killed. In his mind, if you're a wolf, only your kill will go through and if you picked a wolf, then wolves are in the know.

Now then, let's say in this hypothetical world of Haku's in which you are a wolf, and your kill does go through, there's still the problem for the wolves in that they don't know if it was a 1-1-1 vote and their kills just got randomized onto you.

Either way, Haku, this is some pretty major tinfoil and is not a good way to be looking at how AA can be a wolf and find partners/they can find him.

**Hakulyte** · 12-4-2016, 06:03 PM

T-Force, I don't expect others to go for a AA lynch. I'm just trying to point out things that I don't understand.

**Charu** · 12-4-2016, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm leaving thread for an hour I can't deal with this

**Hakulyte** · 12-4-2016, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox

On Night 1, any choices that are another wolf will be thrown out.

Do they receive a reason as to why the vote was "thrown out" or they literally just receive a message saying so and they have to guess why it happened?

**T-Force** · 12-4-2016, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

T-Force, I don't expect others to go for a AA lynch. I'm just trying to point out things that I don't understand.

So you don't understand... what specifically? How to read AA this game?

12-4-2016, 05:52 PM	#1082
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 27 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD or if their kill was overridden __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated*

12-4-2016, 05:54 PM	#1085
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 27 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD top 3 lynches Haku - AA - T-force, storn, MML aryxi - charu - T-force, storn, MML danceguy - T-force, aryxi dfr - aryxi, storn, MML MML - choof - t-force, storn, aryxi storn - dadcop - t-force, storn, freezin t-force - aryxi, freezin, MML pazzaz - MML, aryxi, storn freezin - storn, t-force, aryxi __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

12-4-2016, 05:54 PM	#1086
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD I don't even know what "quicktopic" means here.

12-4-2016, 05:58 PM	#1091
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 27 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD let me draw a scenario out for you just so we can be crystal clear players A, B, C, D, E, F, G A, B, C are wolves A targets B B targets D C targets E A targets B, kill is thrown out target is randomed between D and E D dies oh! A knows B is his partner now, right? nope because they don't know that B failed to die because they're A's partner, all they see is that D dies so it could mean the kill on D was chosen over the kill on B __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

12-4-2016, 05:59 PM	#1092
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD They may not even need communication depending on how their kill confirmation works.

12-4-2016, 06:00 PM	#1093
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD Is there an explanations as to why the sent kill was a miss? I don't see anything in the OP about it.

12-4-2016, 06:00 PM	#1094
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 27 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD I'm leaving thread for an hour I can't deal with this __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

12-4-2016, 06:02 PM	#1096
T-Force Your world ends with you Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Somewhere in, B.C., Canada Age: 32 Posts: 4,737	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD I also think Haku is assuming that the wolves would triple stack on you (AA) if they were to kill you, or double-stack as you are the third. Either way, I think he's trying to say you'd be the top candidate to be killed. In his mind, if you're a wolf, only your kill will go through and if you picked a wolf, then wolves are in the know. Now then, let's say in this hypothetical world of Haku's in which you are a wolf, and your kill does go through, there's still the problem for the wolves in that they don't know if it was a 1-1-1 vote and their kills just got randomized onto you. Either way, Haku, this is some pretty major tinfoil and is not a good way to be looking at how AA can be a wolf and find partners/they can find him.

12-4-2016, 06:03 PM	#1097
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD T-Force, I don't expect others to go for a AA lynch. I'm just trying to point out things that I don't understand.

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