A question about gays/lesbians - Page 5

Afrobean · 06-24-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kles

Can you prove what YOU said?

No, I cannot prove what I said.

However, I was not so openly abrasive. His post could be summed up as:

"lol ur wrong ps i'm not going to post anything about why i'm right and ur not i'm just going to insult you and declare you as wrong"

T0rajir0u · 06-24-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingspinach

Down's Syndrome is not caused by a mutation - it's caused by an accident during meiosis

what the **** do you think a mutation is

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Mutations can be caused by copying errors in the genetic material during cell division and by exposure to radiation, chemicals (mutagens), or viruses, or can occur deliberately under cellular control during processes such as meiosis or hypermutation.

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Originally Posted by dancepuppet

THEIR THE ONES WHO FRIKKEN BROUGHT AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!!!!!!

wow

way to be a jackass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_origin

edit: no, **** ******s like you are too lazy to click on links

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

HIV originated in primates as far as is known. Possible ways for this virus to have originally infected humans include the hunting and eating of the original primate species; a bite would be another possible route.

Kles · 06-24-2006, 08:05 PM

Wow. You just used Wikipedia against fs. The world ends.

Also, on the topic of AIDS... straight people get AIDS just as likely as a gay person! Shocking!!

T0rajir0u · 06-24-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kles

Wow. You just used Wikipedia against fs. The world ends.

My point is that an accident during meiosis is an instance of a type of mutation. =/

**Moogy** · 06-24-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kles

Wow. You just used Wikipedia against fs. The world ends.

HOLY **** ABANDON SHIP

flamingspinach · 06-25-2006, 02:23 AM

T0rajir0u, you're right - it is a mutation, I suppose. I was basically using a narrower definition of a mutation - i.e. one that only includes those mutations that can be considered independently random events. In other words, my point was that the Down's Syndrome is easily replicable, whereas other mutations are generally not. That would be why it doesn't "die out" - because if a mutated gene dies out, it's usually not likely to mutate again in the same way, whereas Down's Syndrome is.

-fs

Prince_Kheldar · 07-11-2006, 05:10 PM

Replying to Z3ratul *(I play starcraft too

). A homo-sexual relationship doesn't always mean anal sex. I'm pretty sure that if they're having it, it isn't just 1 person getting pleasure from it...

Prince_Kheldar · 07-11-2006, 05:13 PM

You're kidding, you think that homo-sexuality is because of a mutation during Meiosis? lol. This is funny, about 99% of mutations in meiosis are bad, usually causing down syndrome. Putting it simply, if you take 2 clones and you raised them the same, you're probably going to get the same result in sexuality. IF however, you raised them each in a different environment (1 in homosexual friendly environment, and 1 in a homosexual biased environment) I can guarentee you they won't end up the same...

Prince_Kheldar · 07-11-2006, 05:15 PM

omg, very sorry, lmao...i didn't read all the posts before that >.< *winces*

Kles · 07-11-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince_Kheldar

You're kidding, you think that homo-sexuality is because of a mutation during Meiosis? lol. This is funny, about 99% of mutations in meiosis are bad, usually causing down syndrome. Putting it simply, if you take 2 clones and you raised them the same, you're probably going to get the same result in sexuality. IF however, you raised them each in a different environment (1 in homosexual friendly environment, and 1 in a homosexual biased environment) I can guarentee you they won't end up the same...

I agree: One will be openly gay and the other will hide it.

Haus · 07-11-2006, 06:43 PM

Gays have AIDS more often because the HIV virus lives in blood and semen. As a butthole is smaller than a penis, during anal sex semen comes (heh...) in contact with blood. Straight people don't usually get HIV because female genitals are specifically designed to facilitate heterosexual intercourse, and therefore bleeding doesn't usually occur except in particularly violent sex.

T0rajir0u · 07-11-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Haus

Gays have AIDS more often because the HIV virus lives in blood and semen. As a butthole is smaller than a penis, during anal sex semen comes (heh...) in contact with blood. Straight people don't usually get HIV because female genitals are specifically designed to facilitate heterosexual intercourse, and therefore bleeding doesn't usually occur except in particularly violent sex.

The HIV virus lives in blood, semen, vaginal fluid, breast milk, and cowper's fluid. Moreover, the membranes surrounding both the penis and the vagina are mucus membranes. This means that they are porous, so when semen or vaginal fluid touches them, **** gets through.

This is the easiest type of anti-gay **** to debunk because it's just plain untrue, and if you're not willing to listen to facts, then go ahead, keep having straight sex and thinking you won't get HIV.

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Originally Posted by www.thewellproject.org

Myths About HIV Transmission

The myth: "Straight people don't get HIV."

The reality: The majority of HIV+ people worldwide are heterosexual. Men infect women, and women infect men. Risk is not about labels, it is about behavior. A 'straight' woman who has unprotected sex with men is at more risk for HIV than a 'gay' man who always practices safe sex.

stfuitsbrandon · 07-11-2006, 08:38 PM

thank you for proving him wrong, that was one of the dumbest "facts" ive heard.

**windsurfer-sp** · 07-13-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JKPolk

There's enough people on the planet that we could use some more gays/lesbians/people just plain not reproducing.

Yeah well gay and lesbian couples still want to have children though so its not that likely to slow down breeding. Someone else has to do the work for them though :P

T0rajir0u · 07-13-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by windsurfer-sp

Someone else has to do the work for them though :P

http://www.ivf.com/ivffaq.html

http://www.spermbankdirectory.com/NSindex.htm

**windsurfer-sp** · 07-13-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by T0rajir0u

http://www.ivf.com/ivffaq.html

http://www.spermbankdirectory.com/NSindex.htm

IVF is still someone doing something so that they could have children.

If there was a gay couple on an island they could not have children. If there was a straight couple on the island they have the potenial to have children (right age, working body, etc..).

And another thing i always thought that alot of people who are gay were sexually abused during childhood. I don't have any evidence but was wondering if that rings true with you guys?

I guess its just another case of the enviroment causing homosexuality.

ReachfortheLight · 07-13-2006, 01:48 AM

On that environment topic. . . what of a child and his/her relationship w/the father? I've heard that can have quite a big effect.

Also out of curiosity. . . have we as humans always upheld the rules for natural selection throughout history? You know, with like, wars and stuff, or keeping people alive so much longer. . . it just doesn't seem to work the same way with us as it does in nature where there's no higher thinking. So perhaps if homosexual tendencies were in the genes, they would just be another man-made diversion from natural selection?

flamingspinach · 07-14-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by smartdude1212

I remember one day we were talking in health class and one kid asked the teacher how people became homosexual. She said that some studies said that when a pregnant mother breathed in a lot of polluted air, the chemicals in the pollutants would sometimes (not always) mess up the chromosomes. Then, while the baby was still growing, the changes would mess it up, causing them to like a member of their own sex or be born with a different body part than what ultrasounds would show earlier in the pregnancy.

I guess this all goes back to the environment subject...

High school teachers tend to not know **** about sexuality. Hell, 90% of anyone tends to not know **** about sexuality. I'd go look up an actual academic resource if I were you.

T0rajir0u · 07-14-2006, 06:29 PM

Guess what guys?

Like I said before, a lot of research shows that people who turn out to be gay start that way from birth or very early childhood.

Homosexuality is hormonal, not psychological.

TIMEDISORT · 07-14-2006, 06:32 PM

I think that gays/leses are fine. And no i am not one. Bitch.

I think that their parents might be like..........you know..........
Like James Blunt or whatever his name is. His dad shot him because he was gay. That aint cool.

06-24-2006, 08:05 PM	#83
Kles Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 98 Posts: 834	Re: A question about gays/lesbians Wow. You just used Wikipedia against fs. The world ends. Also, on the topic of AIDS... straight people get AIDS just as likely as a gay person! Shocking!!

06-25-2006, 02:23 AM	#86
flamingspinach FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 270	Re: A question about gays/lesbians T0rajir0u, you're right - it is a mutation, I suppose. I was basically using a narrower definition of a mutation - i.e. one that only includes those mutations that can be considered independently random events. In other words, my point was that the Down's Syndrome is easily replicable, whereas other mutations are generally not. That would be why it doesn't "die out" - because if a mutated gene dies out, it's usually not likely to mutate again in the same way, whereas Down's Syndrome is. -fs __________________

07-11-2006, 05:10 PM	#87
Prince_Kheldar FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 14	Re: A question about gays/lesbians Replying to Z3ratul *(I play starcraft too ). A homo-sexual relationship doesn't always mean anal sex. I'm pretty sure that if they're having it, it isn't just 1 person getting pleasure from it... __________________ Handle the mistakes of others as gently as you would handle your own.

07-11-2006, 05:13 PM	#88
Prince_Kheldar FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 14	Re: A question about gays/lesbians You're kidding, you think that homo-sexuality is because of a mutation during Meiosis? lol. This is funny, about 99% of mutations in meiosis are bad, usually causing down syndrome. Putting it simply, if you take 2 clones and you raised them the same, you're probably going to get the same result in sexuality. IF however, you raised them each in a different environment (1 in homosexual friendly environment, and 1 in a homosexual biased environment) I can guarentee you they won't end up the same... __________________ Handle the mistakes of others as gently as you would handle your own.

07-11-2006, 05:15 PM	#89
Prince_Kheldar FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 14	Re: A question about gays/lesbians omg, very sorry, lmao...i didn't read all the posts before that >.< winces __________________ Handle the mistakes of others as gently as you would handle your own.

07-11-2006, 06:43 PM	#91
Haus FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7	Re: A question about gays/lesbians Gays have AIDS more often because the HIV virus lives in blood and semen. As a butthole is smaller than a penis, during anal sex semen comes (heh...) in contact with blood. Straight people don't usually get HIV because female genitals are specifically designed to facilitate heterosexual intercourse, and therefore bleeding doesn't usually occur except in particularly violent sex.

07-13-2006, 01:48 AM	#97
ReachfortheLight FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17	Re: A question about gays/lesbians On that environment topic. . . what of a child and his/her relationship w/the father? I've heard that can have quite a big effect. Also out of curiosity. . . have we as humans always upheld the rules for natural selection throughout history? You know, with like, wars and stuff, or keeping people alive so much longer. . . it just doesn't seem to work the same way with us as it does in nature where there's no higher thinking. So perhaps if homosexual tendencies were in the genes, they would just be another man-made diversion from natural selection?

07-14-2006, 06:29 PM	#99
T0rajir0u FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: awsome Posts: 2,946	Re: A question about gays/lesbians Guess what guys? Like I said before, a lot of research shows that people who turn out to be gay start that way from birth or very early childhood. Homosexuality is hormonal, not psychological. __________________ hehe

07-14-2006, 06:32 PM	#100
TIMEDISORT FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TIMEDISORTING LAND Age: 29 Posts: 297	Re: A question about gays/lesbians I think that gays/leses are fine. And no i am not one. Bitch. I think that their parents might be like..........you know.......... Like James Blunt or whatever his name is. His dad shot him because he was gay. That aint cool. __________________ CAPS LOCK OWNS ME

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