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Old 08-7-2008, 03:51 PM   #9081
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If you submit a file now, you will have to wait about 2 1/2 weeks since you missed this judgement period.
I know that. Batch ended a couple days ago, and that's fine. I'm patient.
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Old 08-7-2008, 03:54 PM   #9082
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I forgot to send in a few others files. But I'll wait till next batch :/
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Old 08-7-2008, 03:56 PM   #9083
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I know that. Batch ended a couple days ago, and that's fine. I'm patient.
Ah I see lol. That's good you have patience. I have patience as well lol. But I think I'm gonna use some professional help for the next batch.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:00 PM   #9084
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If you're having trouble getting a file into FFR, try not making it so damn hard! VC+ judging is alot stricter than for mid/easy files. If you make a VD and it's decent it'll have a much better chance than a similaraly decent FMO.

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Old 08-7-2008, 04:01 PM   #9085
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Haha, that's so true.

I made a pretty easy song (Very Easy/Easy) since just about every song in the queue looks like it's 7 or higher.

FFR needs easy songs too.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:09 PM   #9086
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All I used was 16th streams and some other things lol. But eh, I'll start off easy, I might have a better chance.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:10 PM   #9087
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yea but there's a difference, my files are actually pretty good. Compared to the **** that gets accepted on FFR. I'll send in my Protest The Hero - Wretch file, the one dore helped me fix up. And if that doesn't get accepted I'm not gonna bother sending anything else in >_>
haha your funny. also my files usually get reject for not being : pItCh ReLeVaNt :
I hate PR and I will not implant it in my files (unless it's small parts) and that is my biggest mistake.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:12 PM   #9088
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I hate PR and I will not implent it in my files and that is my biggest mistake.
so you prefer completely random patterns over PR patterns?

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Old 08-7-2008, 04:14 PM   #9089
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If you're having trouble getting a file into FFR, try not making it so damn hard! VC+ judging is alot stricter than for mid/easy files. If you make a VD and it's decent it'll have a much better chance than a similaraly decent FMO.

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Here's the problem. FFR needs more VC+ files and I only like playing VC+ files so I only make VC + files.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:14 PM   #9090
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It's important to know when pitch relevancy will really benefit your files. For easier files, I can't really stress how important it is. Do Not Sex to This is a freaking awesome newbie file because of the pitch relevancy. If it had been random notes, it wouldn't have been nearly as meaningful pressing those ridiculously easy notes.

However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:15 PM   #9091
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so you prefer completely random patterns over PR patterns?

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No, if there are rolls, there are rolls, if there are trills, there are trills.
Runnys are runnys, I do that but I do not have the file generally PR. It could occur that deep sounds are on the right and high sounds on the left so yeah there is a certain factor of randomness, I usually tend choose patterns that are fun, not PR. Like I said, I know what it takes to get accepted but I won't compromise to the judges wanting and that is why I won't have files accepted
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:17 PM   #9092
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It's important to know when pitch relevancy will really benefit your files. For easier files, I can't really stress how important it is. Do Not Sex to This is a freaking awesome newbie file because of the pitch relevancy. If it had been random notes, it wouldn't have been nearly as meaningful pressing those ridiculously easy notes.

However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
well, yes

Generally any kind of strong melody or anything with a lot of pitch variance will work well when stepped with PR, whereas something like a constant drum beat or synth is terrible if you PR it. Those things are what index stream and the like are for. But it's not determined by the speed, since a guitar solo with 200 BPM 16ths can be stepped very well with PR...just depends on the pitch variance.

However, blanketly refusing to use PR at all ever is a great way to never get any file you make to a song that has a strong melody accepted, sorry. And "fun" patterns are a dime a dozen and unless they go to the music in some nice way it's another way of saying "generic" patterns in my experience. There is only so much you can do with four arrows *cue Stargroup rant about solo*, and your patterns by themselves have been done before hundreds of times, but stepping them in a way that matches your particular song has likely not. This is why in the previous batch the judges all basically required PR fixes to many files, and I won't be any different in that sense.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:18 PM   #9093
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It's important to know when pitch relevancy will really benefit your files. For easier files, I can't really stress how important it is. Do Not Sex to This is a freaking awesome newbie file because of the pitch relevancy. If it had been random notes, it wouldn't have been nearly as meaningful pressing those ridiculously easy notes.

However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
not really 190 bpm 16th stream that PR can sometimes find its way to amazing cool if you know what your doing
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However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
GLoVE's simfiles have insanely fast solo's that are PR. Sometimes they're weird patterns, but 90% of the time its really fun.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:18 PM   #9095
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However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
Lol I used 16th streams at 180 BPM. I should stick with hi19hi19's idea and go with 32nd rolls.

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Old 08-7-2008, 04:21 PM   #9096
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However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
So, yeah, I realize that it also can turn out well. I never said it's a 100% failure. It just has to be the right song... some songs just don't work because of the meoldy.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:29 PM   #9097
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My submitted file is very pitch relevant, and definite thanks to Yukari for educating me on pitch relevancy.

It's piano, so you kind of have to do it regardless, and the PR makes you feel like you're playing the piano which is a cool feeling. I hope it gets in. =D
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So, yeah, I realize that it also can turn out well. I never said it's a 100% failure. It just has to be the right song... some songs just don't work because of the meoldy.
woops, read it wrong.
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Old 08-7-2008, 04:36 PM   #9099
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I'm stepping my song "Deep Blue Skies" which is good song to make it PR. So I'm gonna spend some time on that one for the next batch.
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Old 08-7-2008, 07:05 PM   #9100
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You guys are going to have to excuse my inexperience here, but if I neglected to have the first 2 seconds of my file clean, will it be rejected, or will a judge remove the notes?
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