Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[kommisar[os]]

Originally Posted by omgitznpv

inconsistency could also indicate changing what you layer in the same part of the song

which is pretty much along the lines of what i said

[jimerax]

yeah, consistency usually means proper layering.

for example if you stop following an instrument suddenly when another new instrument starts, it may cause inconsistency (it's not always a bad thing though).

[HighAndr0id]

I see my collab file got mixed reviews. Would one of the judges be will to discuss what changes should be made? If you're all too busy then I'll understand.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

Finished making another one of my songs. Mr.Nothing's OP has already been sent, I'll try to make a fun stepfile to my other track in time.

Yes, I am making music.

[bluguerrilla]

Your post it's... not gonna do it.


Android: What was the song name? I can't seen to find your name anywhere.

[omgitznpv]

Originally Posted by kommisar[os]

which is pretty much along the lines of what i said

thought you were meaning in one part in the song you follow one thing, in another part of the song you follow something else (not switching sounds at the same part), though that's usually not too great of an idea

Originally Posted by jimerax

yeah, consistency usually means proper layering.

for example if you stop following an instrument suddenly when another new instrument starts, it may cause inconsistency (it's not always a bad thing though).

it could be a good thing when the new instrument has more of a presence, can't really be layered too well, etc.

[Zap_Track]

Originally Posted by kommisar[os]

inconsistent means stepping one part a certain way, and later on in the song step that same part differently, meaning you wouldn't be following your own simfile structure correctly.

Rofl okay. Thanks :3

[stargroup100]

Originally Posted by Kil

there's actually no such thing as an "error" in a simfile, because fundamentally they're a creative work, not a math problem that one can declare right or wrong.

hm

[t-rogdor]

Just sent in my K8 edit. I layered the hell out of it, and it took me about a week, so i hope it gets in (Oh, but i had to remove all the Holds, so it's not as good as my personal SM version )

Also, star, that kil quote made me be philisophical for the rest of today.

Damnit

[Shashakiro]

I don't agree with that sorry

If you're obviously trying to be PR and you accidentally reverse two notes for no reason, that's an error. If you're layering a snare drum and you completely miss a beat of it for no reason, that's also an error. Also if your BPM is wrong or your arrows are offsync with the music, those are also errors.

Yes, there is no one right way to step a file, but there are certain fundamental aspects of stepfile creation that are basic to all stepfiles, and certain techniques used in simfile creation can also be done incorrectly. The same is true of almost all creative work aside from maybe visual art.

Saying that there are no errors in simfile creation is like saying that the glitch where scores don't record in FFR is not an error. Yes, there is no one right way to "code FFR" but there are certain aspects of it that can obviously be right or wrong.

[Izzy]

Rejecting files because of creative differences and not errors is uncool.

Also there should be some kind of list of all the really basic errors. What the hell is a mis-rhythm?

[bluguerrilla]

Like you stepped it as 24ths when it's actually 32nds.

[Cyanite]

See: sympathizer

[stargroup100]

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

I don't agree blahblahblah obvious sh*t

duh

I pointed this out to give you guys something to think about. obviously it's not cutthroat creative work, but once you're good enough to avoid the obvious mistakes they begin to move into the "creative realm"

not saying you're wrong, but you can't just TOTALLY disagree. I knew you guys would respond this way. shows ya where ffr is heading

[Izzy]

So HHS got rejected for easy to remove holds and for not making an 32nd roll a measure long?

[bluguerrilla]

Originally Posted by stargroup100

duh

I pointed this out to give you guys something to think about. obviously it's not cutthroat creative work, but once you're good enough to avoid the obvious mistakes they begin to move into the "creative realm"

not saying you're wrong, but you can't just TOTALLY disagree. I knew you guys would respond this way. shows ya where ffr is heading

I disgree that there can't be mistakes because the author of the file defines his or her own framework for making the file. It's a response to a stimulation of some sort, that's your own. *shrug*

The more creative the file the better, imo. I still think my best file is The Space Between. I'll never be able to replicate it.

What I do when I judge is determine what the author was going for and then what inconsistencies pop out at me.

Originally Posted by Izzy

So HHS got rejected for easy to remove holds and for not making an 32nd roll a measure long?

Hyper Highspeed Star (Izzy) [?] - holds, 32nd roll instead of jumptrill would be better, weird double placement, could use cut

Also we're supposed to auto-reject files with holds in them.

[omgitznpv]

didn't 100% read the response to kil's quote and ****

i view an error as a simfile where the simartist TRIES to accomplish something but fails to do so. if it becomes obvious, for example, that they are going for :technical accuracy: and in some parts, it's off, i view it as a technical error.

with stuff like nvlm's sims and stuff- it's quite obvious that with the hardest chart in his files they are nowhere near close to "accurate" from what we view it. however, it's technically not really an error in my book since the end result is what he intended it to be.

[HighAndr0id]

ignore me people, I am stupid. That is all.

[Tasselfoot]

also, Izzy, "easy to remove holds" is your responsibility... not ours. and, if your chart is an already released SM chart... at least change some stuff up in addition to removing the holds. don't be lazy and send in the identical chart, holds and all. that shows a lack of caring.

and, it would seem that for FFR, we're requesting you do make some changes to the chart before it'll be included in FFR. so that's good.

[Tasselfoot]

double post worthy...

also, tonight is the last night to submit files for this batch. so get them in, or you'll be waiting an additional 3 weeks (roughly) for the next batch.