ODIPack3 submissions (Release when graphics are done)

[bmah]

Aww. It's too bad you're neglecting x-mod files. One can say that most people don't play files on x-mods, but one can also say that you're perpetuating this way of playing by barring x-mod files. Think about that converse for a moment.

Anyways, I guess I'll have to send Release The Music to another, likely less popular pack in which less people will play and therefore will further add to the decline of x-mod playing. Regardless of how much you might say they're appreciated, you send a very clear message to x-mod playing. How does anyone expect serious x-mod gameplay to survive?

[FissionMailed1]

I think what GLoVE is saying is that your files should be challenging enough to play on c-mod as well, not just x-mod. In other words, it should be able to stand up on its own as a challenging file without having to rely on gimmicks. Think Kommisar and Puppet's "Epileptic Crisis" file. Very challenging on c-mod, but x-moddable as well.

[dascookieman]

yes precisely, fission! there are a few x-mod files in the pack already and i wouldn't have anything at all against every single file in the pack being an x-mod file, as long as it's a good enough file for the pack on c-mod as well. i'm just trying to cater to a majority of the players (advanced players of course, this pack is not for beginners)

[bmah]

Missing the point entirely. The file is 100% not c-moddable. This file has negative BPMs and to make it c-mod compatible only points back to the case that no one wants to promote x-mod playing. X-mod being of secondary importance doesn't do the style of gameplay any favor in it's promotion.

[dascookieman]

well i don't have anything at all against x-mod, but promoting it is not one of the goals with this pack. if the file is good enough on c-mod as well and you want to make it an x-mod file then i would encourage that

[Tyson ultima]

Originally Posted by bmah

Release The Music

you mean Kors K's???

[bmah]

Originally Posted by dascookieman

well i don't have anything at all against x-mod, but promoting it is not one of the goals with this pack.

Just know that few would have the same sort of influence as you. I'm not asking for it to be accepted, but for people to know that it reinforces the mentality that x-mod playing is niche and should remain a niche.

Originally Posted by Tyson ultima

you mean Kors K's???

Correct. It was originally submitted for an x-mod pack that never took off.

[t-rogdor]

Originally Posted by bmah

Missing the point entirely. The file is 100% not c-moddable. This file has negative BPMs and to make it c-mod compatible only points back to the case that no one wants to promote x-mod playing. X-mod being of secondary importance doesn't do the style of gameplay any favor in it's promotion.

to make a file that is fun exclusively on one gameplay mode is, on the whole, not a good file for a big pack that is intended to be both community reviving and audience expanding. I love xmod files, I really do, but to make a file that is only fun, or god forbid only playable, on xmod is not the right fit for this pack. I bet the file you made rules, your xmod files rule, but you gotta quit acting like by doing something that is ultimately smart for the pack, glove is instituting some kinda Stepmania Gulag Racism Holocaust 9/11 420 Whatever

like some of this shit you've said is on par with Mountain Dew11's "to ask all people to play spread is like asking to bring slavery back" quote dude

c h i l l

[FissionMailed1]

Was about to post what rog said. Additionally, your audience for x-mod exclusive files is tiny compared to c-mod and x-mod files. If people wanted to play x-mod, there would be more people making x-mod files and more packs being started for x-mod. It's a matter of targeting a specific audience, and files that rely on gimmicks aren't the focus of this pack. GLoVE outlined that very clearly in the OP.

[rparty89]

may do himiko

but im not sure
anyone think i should cause i would do shit

[James May]

Originally Posted by rparty89

may do himiko

but im not sure
anyone think i should cause i would do shit

no x.x try something different.

[bmah]

Ok let me apologize first to Glove for making a case here. It could honestly be anyone else. I suppose I made a point now because Glove is one person in particular who has enormous influence over people playing files in general.

Originally Posted by FissionMailed1

Additionally, your audience for x-mod exclusive files is tiny compared to c-mod and x-mod files. If people wanted to play x-mod, there would be more people making x-mod files and more packs being started for x-mod.

We know that the current audience for x-mod files is small. My original intention of talking about it is to -expand- that audience. If people say that Stepmania's decreasing in popularity, there has to be a way of diversifying the game. To be inclusive to a variety of stepfiles is to expand the audience. And there's no better opportunity to do it than here.

Anyways, my point has been made.

[HST]

holy shit it's so 2013 in here

[AlexDest]

ninshikou

[t-rogdor]

hot sexy touhou

[dascookieman]

yooo what up HST!! was hoping you would show up eventually =) you should make a file! this is a like the pack with a file from all the oldies one last time. zagh, hayden, iamme, arch0wl and danceguy to mention some that hasn't submitted yet are all making files =)

[Nick Skyline]

Holy ShiT it's so 2013 in here

So you're still here? Sweet!

I might make a song and get you to step it if you want (I mainly specialize in Freeform Hardcore or something like that).

[FissionMailed1]

Originally Posted by dascookieman

one last time

Just what are you implying.....

[dascookieman]

ok sorry i take it back =P, i can only speak for myself and i will make files for more packs than this one

[FissionMailed1]

^_^