Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread - Page 43

Archelos · 03-21-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

The notes are definitely late, by a frame or so.

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Wow, that's really odd. Every note was on the edge of the early good frame for me.

bluguerrilla · 03-21-2009, 03:02 PM

Yeah, it beats between good and perf, as far as I can tell. Either way it needs fixin.

cedolad · 03-21-2009, 03:30 PM

Any idea when it's going to be fixed?

bluguerrilla · 03-21-2009, 03:33 PM

When Tass gets back from San Fransisco and people annoy him about it and then he has free time, he will fix it.

cedolad · 03-21-2009, 03:34 PM

Quick, spam his inbox! gogogogogo

Agent:Baby Jesus · 03-21-2009, 04:42 PM

i spammed tass on aim once

he said i got a warning then i was being banned

then i got banned =/

**Patashu** · 03-21-2009, 06:30 PM

isn't -every- file in ffr 1-2 frames late?

just do a global offset lol

**Patashu** · 03-23-2009, 06:53 AM

yo 0, what files would you hold up as examples of overusing PR? thanks

btw what do subbies think of witches hat? I had to use unconventional layering for some of the sections because handswing doesn't really make for a good file

0 · 03-25-2009, 03:05 PM

well, some files like radio heads that use the same note patterns are fun at first, but get a little tiring. it would be more fun if it used a different repeated arrow throughout the song.
I can't think of any others at the moment, but that's the main one

btw witches hat is a great file, the swing style is really cool in that song.

bluguerrilla · 03-25-2009, 03:10 PM

One could argue trills are better than jacks because that pattern is closer to the motion of strumming, if you know what I mean.

I also find Radioheads really tiring.

0 · 03-25-2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

One could argue trills are better than jacks because that pattern is closer to the motion of strumming, if you know what I mean.

I agree with this. Also for drums, too.

bluguerrilla · 03-25-2009, 03:30 PM

But it really just depends on what type of file you want because you can argue it both ways and neither are wrong.

My example of too much PR would be OMW v2. Creates some awkward patterns and nonintuitive stuff. That said, I love the file to pieces.

**Patashu** · 03-25-2009, 03:40 PM

Stepmania isn't meant to emulate the feel of playing any particular instrument, but the feel of replicating the song as a whole. If that makes any sense

bluguerrilla · 03-25-2009, 03:56 PM

I didn't say that it was but who says it's meant to do anything. I can interpret a song however I want and if representing how it's played too, I can do that. Equating single arrow PR to one noise is just one way to interpret an instrument.

I'm not saying that it does make you feel like you're playing the instrument more to do trills vs. jacks but that it represents the motion better. The back and forth motion of a trill is like the back and forth motion of strumming. You can't tell me it's not.

supersonicpwns · 03-25-2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluearrowll

So Tasselfoot, you're suggesting Death Piano won't be the hardest song anymore?
(excluding vb ROFL)

probably tass is going to say that RATO and vb ROFL are the hardest songs on FFR because RATO is much harder than DP.

**Patashu** · 03-25-2009, 06:28 PM

DP's harder to FC because of the ending, RATO is overall more difficult, vRofl has them both beat

**bmah** · 03-25-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

I also find Radioheads really tiring.

Behan should've cut the song, since the song repeats itself numerous times. If anyone else made a simfile like that, it'd be rejected for length. The song itself is awesome. Length is the only reason why I still have a BF on that simfile.

Zybanthia · 03-25-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patashu

Stepmania isn't meant to emulate the feel of playing any particular instrument, but the feel of replicating the song as a whole. If that makes any sense

Patashu, I love you, but saying "Stepmania is made to do this" makes you look like an elitist. No offense. It does though.

Stepmania is a game. Games are made to be fun (and often times challenging too). Trying to put a black and white definition on how people are supposed to design fun doesn't work because everyone does it differently. Files exist in this world that have virtually no PR that are still a lot of fun to me. Files exist in this world that have practically perfect PR that aren't much fun at all to me. And for each person, the definition of "fun to me" changes.

So, yeah, saying Stepmania is "made to emulate the song as a whole" isn't really a global definition, it's just the policy you personally use to step your files.

**bmah** · 03-25-2009, 08:17 PM

Stepmania is a dance simulation game. However else you would like to think of it is up to your own interpretation.

**robertsona** · 03-25-2009, 08:21 PM

stepmania is an art form

soon they'll build a museum

you'll see

you'll all see

03-21-2009, 03:02 PM	#842
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Yeah, it beats between good and perf, as far as I can tell. Either way it needs fixin. __________________

03-21-2009, 03:30 PM	#843
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Any idea when it's going to be fixed? __________________

03-21-2009, 03:33 PM	#844
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread When Tass gets back from San Fransisco and people annoy him about it and then he has free time, he will fix it. __________________

03-21-2009, 03:34 PM	#845
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Quick, spam his inbox! gogogogogo __________________

03-21-2009, 04:42 PM	#846
Agent:Baby Jesus Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 65	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread i spammed tass on aim once he said i got a warning then i was being banned then i got banned =/

03-21-2009, 06:30 PM	#847
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread isn't -every- file in ffr 1-2 frames late? just do a global offset lol __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

03-23-2009, 06:53 AM	#848
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread yo 0, what files would you hold up as examples of overusing PR? thanks btw what do subbies think of witches hat? I had to use unconventional layering for some of the sections because handswing doesn't really make for a good file __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

03-25-2009, 03:05 PM	#849
0 ( ﾟдﾟ)彡 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 654	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread well, some files like radio heads that use the same note patterns are fun at first, but get a little tiring. it would be more fun if it used a different repeated arrow throughout the song. I can't think of any others at the moment, but that's the main one btw witches hat is a great file, the swing style is really cool in that song. __________________

03-25-2009, 03:10 PM	#850
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread One could argue trills are better than jacks because that pattern is closer to the motion of strumming, if you know what I mean. I also find Radioheads really tiring. __________________

03-25-2009, 03:30 PM	#852
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread But it really just depends on what type of file you want because you can argue it both ways and neither are wrong. My example of too much PR would be OMW v2. Creates some awkward patterns and nonintuitive stuff. That said, I love the file to pieces. __________________

03-25-2009, 03:40 PM	#853
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Stepmania isn't meant to emulate the feel of playing any particular instrument, but the feel of replicating the song as a whole. If that makes any sense __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

03-25-2009, 03:56 PM	#854
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread I didn't say that it was but who says it's meant to do anything. I can interpret a song however I want and if representing how it's played too, I can do that. Equating single arrow PR to one noise is just one way to interpret an instrument. I'm not saying that it does make you feel like you're playing the instrument more to do trills vs. jacks but that it represents the motion better. The back and forth motion of a trill is like the back and forth motion of strumming. You can't tell me it's not. __________________

03-25-2009, 06:28 PM	#856
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread DP's harder to FC because of the ending, RATO is overall more difficult, vRofl has them both beat __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

03-25-2009, 08:17 PM	#859
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Stepmania is a dance simulation game. However else you would like to think of it is up to your own interpretation.

03-25-2009, 08:21 PM	#860
robertsona missa in h-moll Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nyc Age: 28 Posts: 3,995	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread stepmania is an art form soon they'll build a museum you'll see you'll all see __________________

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