The Fitness Thread - Page 43

**Reach** · 09-28-2012, 05:49 AM

I take creatine post workout on workout days, after lunch on rest days.

It will cause water retention. If you're going to take it, make sure you take that into account when you weigh yourself (your weight will go up).

Also, I died laughing at these:

Senip · 09-28-2012, 07:59 AM

ON had a review come out that showed they used cadmium and lead in their mixes. I dont know if they still do, but that shits poisonous as ****.

Whats the fruits and veggies part of Orange Triad?

on work out days, 5 grams before/after, on off days, 5 grams whenever.

**Reincarnate** · 09-28-2012, 08:23 AM

lmfao Reach

But yeah the whole water-retention thing was the main reason I was torn about whether or not to even get creatine in the first place. In the end, I decided that my easily-fatigued muscles/complete lack of strength could use a bit of a boost so I could get things moving.

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Originally Posted by Senip

ON had a review come out that showed they used cadmium and lead in their mixes. I dont know if they still do, but that shits poisonous as ****.

Whats the fruits and veggies part of Orange Triad?

on work out days, 5 grams before/after, on off days, 5 grams whenever.

Yikes, seriously? Googled around a bit and it seems like my particular brand (ON Platinium Hydrowhey Cookies and Cream) doesn't show up anywhere in the reports, but the Vanilla version has a trace amount of arsenic. Hmmm.

As for "fruits and veggies," I mean all the random vitamins you'd normally get from eating a diverse set of such foods. However, you get a shitload of micronutrients from eating fruits/veggies and so a supplement can really only help so much.

**kmay** · 09-28-2012, 08:54 AM

marcus, water retention while you are aren't at your goal body isn't that big of a deal, when you are trying to lean out is when you should worry about it

Senip · 09-28-2012, 09:05 AM

I'm trying to get as low bf% as I can, and my nutritionist/trainer dude still has me taking a ton of creatine. I promise, for the most part you aren't going to see any bloating unless you get a crap product.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...rink/index.htm

**Jerry DB** · 09-28-2012, 03:46 PM

I have never taken creatine in my life, I just don't like the idea of losing strength when I get off it. I mean I'm sure I've had it in foods and what not but I feel like that is the all I need. In my head I feel like my body will become more efficient if it doesn't have to rely on cycling. I could be stupid for doing this and stronger if I took it, or maybe my body is really good at producing glycogen because of this. All I know is I'm usually stronger then people around my weight who work out like 90 percent of the time so who cares lol

Senip · 09-28-2012, 04:00 PM

Who cycles creatine...? Creatine Mono requires no cycling, I'm getting lost as to why people think you need to.

**Jerry DB** · 09-28-2012, 04:02 PM

Like 20 people told me that but maybe I should have used the internet. Either way I just don't really have the money to buy so many freaking products, and I feel like making excuses instead of admitting I'm poor

Senip · 09-28-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry DB

Like 20 people told me that but maybe I should have used the internet. Either way I just don't really have the money to buy so many freaking products, and I feel like making excuses instead of admitting I'm poor

Get 1000 grams of creatine mono from true nutrition. That gets you a great discount, and it'll last you forever. At just 5 grams a day, that's 200 days: almost a full year.

If you want something fancier, get some Storm too for workouts. 80 servings (again, if you work out 4 times a week, that's 20 weeks of workouts.)

**Jerry DB** · 09-28-2012, 04:18 PM

hmm I will definitely look into it more and probably start soon. So if I've never taken it before I will probably get pretty swole huh?

**Reach** · 09-28-2012, 05:01 PM

Not really. If you're lean you'll notice a small difference. Otherwise, probably not.

You'll notice your strength go up a bit in the gym though.

There for awhile I thought it wasn't doing anything, but having missed my creatine a few times recently, I can say that I definitely feel it when I haven't taken it haha (most exercises went down a few reps).

Senip is right; creatine is essential when cutting *if your goal is to become muscular*. I'm still think you should concentrate on losing weight and worry about bodybuilding later, since unlike Senip you're untrained, but if you want to take creatine mono you'll be fine. Just make sure that you take it into account when weighing yourself (your weight is going to go up, no question about it, so don't feel discouraged when it happens. It's water).

**Reincarnate** · 09-28-2012, 06:24 PM

I don't see why you'd have to cycle creatine when the whole point is just to keep the muscles saturated (as far as I know)

**SCWolf** · 09-28-2012, 09:10 PM

It's water guys. It's water. It's not fat. It's water. pls.

Also chest gains! Really happy about it. It's progressing well with my new routine. PS this is without a chest pump.

**Poison-** · 09-28-2012, 09:19 PM

You look amazing bro. Amazing chest gain. I lost 8 pounds. fml.

**SCWolf** · 09-28-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Poison-

You look amazing bro. Amazing chest gain. I lost 8 pounds. fml.

Eat hard mother ****er, eat so hard.

**Poison-** · 09-28-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SCWolf

Eat hard mother ****er, eat so hard.

I stopped working out, and my diet took a huge hit. I wasn't eating ANYWHERE near what I should have been eating. Even to maintain my weight. I feel like shit, and everyone has noticed that I've lost weight and size, too. I'm starting everything back up on Monday, and I'm going hard as ****.

**SCWolf** · 09-28-2012, 09:36 PM

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I stopped working out, and my diet took a huge hit. I wasn't eating ANYWHERE near what I should have been eating. Even to maintain my weight. I feel like shit, and everyone has noticed that I've lost weight and size, too. I'm starting everything back up on Monday, and I'm going hard as ****.

Good. No more excuses ever. Go HAM forever.

**Poison-** · 09-28-2012, 09:39 PM

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Good. No more excuses ever. Go HAM forever.

No excuses here, man. Just lost all my motivation. Seeing you like that definitely motivates me though

**Reincarnate** · 09-28-2012, 10:51 PM

Finally going to the gym tomorrow morning to do a test-run of all the lifts (mostly figuring out my ten-rep maxes for each exercise)

**SCWolf** · 09-28-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

Finally going to the gym tomorrow morning to do a test-run of all the lifts (mostly figuring out my ten-rep maxes for each exercise)

Good luck!

09-28-2012, 05:49 AM	#841
Reach FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 7,471	Re: The Fitness Thread I take creatine post workout on workout days, after lunch on rest days. It will cause water retention. If you're going to take it, make sure you take that into account when you weigh yourself (your weight will go up). Also, I died laughing at these: __________________

09-28-2012, 07:59 AM	#842
Senip Forum User Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 36 Posts: 611	Re: The Fitness Thread ON had a review come out that showed they used cadmium and lead in their mixes. I dont know if they still do, but that shits poisonous as ****. Whats the fruits and veggies part of Orange Triad? on work out days, 5 grams before/after, on off days, 5 grams whenever.

09-28-2012, 08:54 AM	#844
kmay Don't forget me Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Age: 31 Posts: 6,491	Re: The Fitness Thread marcus, water retention while you are aren't at your goal body isn't that big of a deal, when you are trying to lean out is when you should worry about it __________________

09-28-2012, 09:05 AM	#845
Senip Forum User Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 36 Posts: 611	Re: The Fitness Thread I'm trying to get as low bf% as I can, and my nutritionist/trainer dude still has me taking a ton of creatine. I promise, for the most part you aren't going to see any bloating unless you get a crap product. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...rink/index.htm

09-28-2012, 03:46 PM	#846
Jerry DB FFR, lift, repeat Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oregon Age: 32 Posts: 2,071	Re: The Fitness Thread I have never taken creatine in my life, I just don't like the idea of losing strength when I get off it. I mean I'm sure I've had it in foods and what not but I feel like that is the all I need. In my head I feel like my body will become more efficient if it doesn't have to rely on cycling. I could be stupid for doing this and stronger if I took it, or maybe my body is really good at producing glycogen because of this. All I know is I'm usually stronger then people around my weight who work out like 90 percent of the time so who cares lol __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-28-2012, 04:00 PM	#847
Senip Forum User Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 36 Posts: 611	Re: The Fitness Thread Who cycles creatine...? Creatine Mono requires no cycling, I'm getting lost as to why people think you need to.

09-28-2012, 04:02 PM	#848
Jerry DB FFR, lift, repeat Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oregon Age: 32 Posts: 2,071	Re: The Fitness Thread Like 20 people told me that but maybe I should have used the internet. Either way I just don't really have the money to buy so many freaking products, and I feel like making excuses instead of admitting I'm poor __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-28-2012, 04:18 PM	#850
Jerry DB FFR, lift, repeat Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oregon Age: 32 Posts: 2,071	Re: The Fitness Thread hmm I will definitely look into it more and probably start soon. So if I've never taken it before I will probably get pretty swole huh? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-28-2012, 05:01 PM	#851
Reach FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 7,471	Re: The Fitness Thread Not really. If you're lean you'll notice a small difference. Otherwise, probably not. You'll notice your strength go up a bit in the gym though. There for awhile I thought it wasn't doing anything, but having missed my creatine a few times recently, I can say that I definitely feel it when I haven't taken it haha (most exercises went down a few reps). Senip is right; creatine is essential when cutting if your goal is to become muscular. I'm still think you should concentrate on losing weight and worry about bodybuilding later, since unlike Senip you're untrained, but if you want to take creatine mono you'll be fine. Just make sure that you take it into account when weighing yourself (your weight is going to go up, no question about it, so don't feel discouraged when it happens. It's water). __________________

09-28-2012, 06:24 PM	#852
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: The Fitness Thread I don't see why you'd have to cycle creatine when the whole point is just to keep the muscles saturated (as far as I know)

09-28-2012, 09:10 PM	#853
SCWolf ༼ ͡◉ل͜ ͡◉༽ 👌 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 1,662	Re: The Fitness Thread It's water guys. It's water. It's not fat. It's water. pls. Also chest gains! Really happy about it. It's progressing well with my new routine. PS this is without a chest pump. __________________

09-28-2012, 09:19 PM	#854
Poison- Nope Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: London, ON Age: 29 Posts: 3,772	Re: The Fitness Thread You look amazing bro. Amazing chest gain. I lost 8 pounds. fml.

09-28-2012, 10:51 PM	#859
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: The Fitness Thread Finally going to the gym tomorrow morning to do a test-run of all the lifts (mostly figuring out my ten-rep maxes for each exercise)

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