The official 3rd Style thread

[leadafro]

Originally Posted by talisman

the challenge should not come from reading the arrows. it should come from the steps.

oh and boohoo... more people will be able to read one minute waltz. hence more competition. which is a good thing.

thats true and i agree speed mods are the way to be.(try doning reality on 6X speed on heavy even on 3x its really hard for me to read.)

[areanem]

dont worry i wont. Its hard enough for me as it is. Though i love that disconnected song. its the shizznite!!!

[Nintendo_Rulez]

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

What do I think? I think the bigger the combo, the more an anime charachter strips for j00.

That's genius.

[Pumble]

go for the AAA

[nforcer06164]

Sigh. When will you all learn that FFR R1 is not DDR?

Original parts of FFR that need to stay:

The boos.
The competitive ranking (no letter grades).
Scoring based on combo.
C300 on all songs.

Many of you never saw 1st Style. I knew 1st Style while it was online, and saw it change to 2nd Style. If there were changes in the setup as far as the game core itself, I didn't notice. It focused on graphics change, and addition of new features such as the shop and challenges. At least, as far as I can remember.

[staroceanfreakx]

Combo scoring is by far the worst part of FFR. Someone can get all goods with averages and boos with an FC, and if I get halfway with all perfects, get one miss, then get the other half all perfect, the other person will still win. Total BS.

[chickendude]

I remember first style

the difference is that it became 10x easier to boowhore
the judge went down a ton
boos were added, they were considered misses in 1st style (and they broke your combo)
That was what made 1st style hard, boos broke your combo
I actually liked that interface better, but there wasn't enough room =\

I also like the competetive ranking system better than letter grades

[Pumble]

Originally Posted by nforcer06164

Original parts of FFR that need to stay:

The boos.
The competitive ranking (no letter grades).
Scoring based on combo.
C300 on all songs.

No. Aside from the ranking thing, and maaaybe the c300 thing, i disagree with you. Combo scoring and boos make the game extremely easy to mash at so unless you're an very good played you're going to lose against a noob who knows how to mash if you're not mashing. The boo system and the combo scoring aren't part of the feel of FFR, they're problems that need to be fixed.

[chickendude]

I think they should keep the boos but make them do something more drastic

like maybe if you get two boos without hitting an arrow the first one makes the life go down 1, second makes it go down 2, 3rd makes it go down 3 etc

so you can't boowhore through a song, but boos still make your life go down

also I think it would be cool if they made boos end your combo
that would end all mash high scores

this sounds a lot like first mix now that I look at it <_<

Originally Posted by nforcer06164

Many of you never saw 1st Style. I knew 1st Style while it was online, and saw it change to 2nd Style. If there were changes in the setup as far as the game core itself, I didn't notice.

Timing window was changed, and the boos were added.

By the way, I invented boos, way back in the day. My idea. Whee. I will never grow tired of taking credit for that.

[chickendude]

now take the blame for all the boowhoring <_<
actually, we really need to limit on the boowhoring, make boos hurt your life more, or have boos be progressive or something, because boowhoring is too easy

[Chromer]

Meh, I remember 1st style so stop acting like you're the only one who played FFR back in its infant stage when we only had like 4 songs. My opinion? Take out the frickin Boos for pressing a step when there are no arrows. I know you fanatics are gonna say,"No! That makes the game more original!" Like hell it does. It only makes it less enjoyable. Also its easy as hell to mash a song like Balloon Fever and beat someone due to it.

[ToshX]

I wish everything on FFR stayed the same, because I love how FFR is. If I wanted speed mods, no boos, and etc. I'd just play Stepmania. I like FFR because it is different than the rest, and never gets boring.

[zajac]

I was gonna say something about it, but StarOcean got to it first...

The combo scoring system NEEDS to be changed... I can think of numerous NUMEROUS times where I could get almost ALL perfects, but then miss an arrow in the middle of the song or somewhere, and then the other person could just have a shitload of boos and goods, but full combo the song or get a slightly higher combo, and win? Not cool... Total BS...

Along with the 'hidden arrow' glitches that few people know about... And then when you do the trick, you'll have 3 more arrow combo than anyone else and you'll automiatically win, even if your timing on the song sucked...

Yeah... I'm with StarOcean... Combo scoring is BS... I remember when Boos were implemented back in the day, but this Combo scoring thing is what needs to be changed...

I've also heard some otherreally good ideas though too... I'm really looking forward to 3rd Style if everything what we had all dreamed about comes true in this version...

As for the whole speed mod debate... I think it should be implemented... There are A LOT of really REALLY good players out there that deserve to be on the high score list, or at least able to compete in it, but most people play on faster scroll speeds and just aren't able to read the piles of arrows that come onto the screen... And some people say that players with faster scroll speeds would be able to get into the high score list easier... Well... Good... It takes a lot of practice and training and time to be able to read faster scroll speeds... You have to work your way up to it... Give me ONE person... ONE noob... That would be able to FC even MARIO at x4 or C700... Not possible... You have to practice...

Yeah... Kinda long rant... But I hope all of you get my point...

Well... At least until speed mods are implemented... There is always the sudden option...

[iggymatrixcounter]

Originally Posted by ToshX

I wish everything on FFR stayed the same, because I love how FFR is. If I wanted speed mods, no boos, and etc. I'd just play Stepmania. I like FFR because it is different than the rest, and never gets boring.

except make boos -1000 pts so even if you do mash yea you'll get a high combo but it won't add to you highscore that much... probably hurt it more than help

[THE_TOAD]

perhaps they could stop calling them diffrent things and just keep updating ffr

[chickendude]

Originally Posted by Chromer

Meh, I remember 1st style so stop acting like you're the only one who played FFR back in its infant stage when we only had like 4 songs. My opinion? Take out the frickin Boos for pressing a step when there are no arrows. I know you fanatics are gonna say,"No! That makes the game more original!" Like hell it does. It only makes it less enjoyable. Also its easy as hell to mash a song like Balloon Fever and beat someone due to it.

Either make boos kill your life bar a whole lot more than they do or have boos affect your points in a progressive way (every extra boo on a song loses you even more points). Then boowhoring would decrease your score.
Combo scoring is lame, we need to tone that down

[Eyoshi]

I like the ideas of noteskins, the 12th, 24th, and 32nd noteskin correction, using Chardish's difficulty system, and fixed challenges. I think these will add to the enjoyment of the game.

As for the Boos, I don't think they should be removed. They help prevent button-mashing, and I think it is a unique characteristic of the game.

Although I'd like to use speed mods in this game, I don't think they should be added. It is also another unique characteristic of this game. As others say, there is a challenge of registering a high score with a preset scroll speed. Plus, speed mods only help very little when it comes to helping clear a song. They space out the arrows for you, but you'd still have to recognize the patterns to effectively use it. The real ability to clear a song is executing the steps, such as jacks. But, if speed mods come into 3rd Style, perhaps they could just be limited to things like C100, C200, C300 (or possibly C50 lol), etc.?

I hope that the credits will be more usable in 3rd Style. I'd like the idea of many more unlockable songs in the Purchased and Secret sections. Unlockable noteskins would be pretty cool, too for the fun factor.

Umm...sorry for the long post. ^_^;;

[cloud321]

The only question I have is when can we be expecting to play it? In other words when will it be coming out?

[Nyokou]

I want to know the same thing that cloud321 asked.
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