jTWG XLVII: A Night Under The Iraqi Sky

[Lightknight924]

Originally Posted by emerald000

That's exactly what I have said, but more elaborated (and maybe less clear.)

But by "secret alliance", do you mean that the player allied with the seer should not come out? That's not really productive. If Heavylee got contacted by a false seer (or not at all), it should be known so humans won't be mislead. And that way, the seer is not in danger. The wolves could kill the player allied with the seer, but then, having wasted their vigi, the seer is not in danger anymore and can come out.

I hope it is more clear now.

It's fine if the person in contact with the seer comes out
but he'll probably be vigi'd.
And so it'd kill the alliance.

[argo15]

I am a normal human, unless I'm red miller, the seer is BSing you guys. I know as a rule i'm probably going to die, but DEFINATELY consider that this seer is a fake. Elsewise, you are rid of the red miller.

[argo15]

I got work, i'll be back in 5 hours =/

[emerald000]

Originally Posted by emerald000

The wolves could kill the player allied with the seer, but then, having wasted their vigi, the seer is not in danger anymore and can come out.

Wow... Do you read what I am writing? If the wolves use their vigi to kill the player in contact with the seer, the seer will be safe to come out to the thread.

[Lightknight924]

They won't use their vigi, then, will they.

[Kekeb]

This early in the game, with not a lot of lynching options I would say the best move is to lynch Argo. If he is the red miller, than that's one more thing we don't have to worry about. If it was later on in the game, it could be a heavily wasted lynch.
safety on emerald

[emerald000]

I am also totally for lynching Argo. But I am not voting for him, since I don't want to insta. So, I will place a safety on x3ro.

[X3R0H0UR]

First, if Heavy was trying to bait the vigi on herself, u guys made it nice and clear to the wolves thats what we want....I'da just let it go and have it happen.

However I would wager that we either have a brain dead seer, or the elemental seered argo blue....thats the only thing that makes sense....or does it not?

Why would the seer come out randomly? "OMG I MIGHT GET VIGIED BEFORE I GET THIS OFF"....srsly?

[T3hDDRKid]

Hardly more than an hour to make my decision.

Originally Posted by heavylee

Screw this, I have to go to the gym and no one is around. I will come right out with it. The seer came out to me and told me that argo was seered red. I don't know why they came out to me, kind of ironic since I was seer before the re-roll. Anyways, Argo is red, and I don't care if he could be the red miller but we need to kill him off. So instead of random votes lets target someone who is possibly a wolf.

Very believable. The seer found somebody red [A 1/4 chance with the Red Miller in there], and after that, told a random, unconfirmed person [who would have a 1/5 chance of being a wolf] that he was blue.

I don't believe that.

Originally Posted by heavylee

Anyways, Argo is red, and I don't care if he could be the red miller but we need to kill him off.

Trying to pull out the seer by announcing a fake "seer." Once the seer is out in the open, he can be vigi'd.

This is just a day one theory, disclaimer, etc, but I'm thinking that Heavy is a wolf. It's very, very convenient that the seer would message her saying that he found a red night one, and in addition to her "any other seer claims" post, I think it's a badly executed play to kill the seer right off the bat.

[T3hDDRKid]

Oh right Heavylee

[T3hDDRKid]

SORRY MY MESSAGE WAS BROKEN

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE SECOND QUOTE

Originally Posted by heavylee

Open for discussion, should I ask for other seer claims to see if we can trust my seer?

THEN

Trying to pull out the seer by announcing a fake "seer." Once the seer is out in the open, he can be vigi'd.

[heavylee]

I was asking the general public whether or not trying to find other seer claims was a good idea, as I am not a very strategic player and don't often come into these situations. It is not my fault the seer came to me, I just thought it would be a good idea to share the information.

[X3R0H0UR]

well i'll go with argo, unless he counterclaims he's actually a blue...in which case he's screwed anyway...mostly to avoid a phan though

[Lightknight924]

TehDDR, I think you're pulling something out of a post that's not really there.

[Lightknight924]

PS Day is over.

[Lightknight924]

Argo is dead.

[T3hDDRKid]

I dunno Farka, it sure does seem shoddy for a wolf maneuver, but if it's true, the seer is a total idiot.

[Lightknight924]

Who's Farka?

[argo15]

Originally Posted by X3R0H0UR

well i'll go with argo, unless he counterclaims he's actually a blue...in which case he's screwed anyway...mostly to avoid a phan though

If i was blue I would of came out already =. If i truley am red the red miller is out, any other reds are true wolves =/.

[Lightknight924]

Dead men don't talk.