TWG CIII: New Players Welcome

[Xiz]

Let's not expand to the 3rd and 4th wolf just yet.

I say we either kill Riotpolice or Mellon today. Can we agree on bandwagoning on one?

[thesunfan]

I still do not see the case for RP, I vote we go for mellon. I guess if we *have* to kill RP, I suppose I could be wrong about him, but I'm fairly certain he's green.

[mellonxcollie]

OK Xiz, I can kind of see where you're coming from. But being on the other end of this, I was working 8 hour shifts and had other commitments the first few days of this game. I didn't have the sort of time to spare on TWG that I have now considering I had the last two days off, and don't work until 4 PM today.

I think that your other concerns are valid, but my "sudden change is posting style" is almost entirely linked to "sudden change in free time to dick around on the internet". Your post #755 on the other hand is good thinking. This is the type of thinking we should be doing and the type of connections we should be making. These points against me are perfectly valid, I am hesitant to call out specific reads and I have been taking a long time to make a post with reads. I can understand how this makes me look suspicious, and I will actually get to work on getting that post posted

[thesunfan]

going to class, I have no friggin' clue when I'll be back, or if I'll be back before the phase ends. My vote stays where it is, as I think this is the best vote at the moment.

[mellonxcollie]

Alright thesunfan, I don't think that's a wise decision but I guess I can see where you're coming from.

[pntballa18]

The mellon read is a lot more plausible than the one on RP. Riotpolice hasn't posted anything else so I still think his behavior is typical for a new player. But seriously, thesunfan guys? Can we consider that someone in the echo chamber is a wolf?

Originally Posted by thesunfan

if I was a wolf and a player was this vocal agianst me, would I kill them this early?

Yes, I think you would. You claim that you intentionally drew suspicion on yourself to get reads on other players, and no one batted an eye. That tells me that you have a reputation for being a confident player, and that YoshL play is something that would benefit a confident wolf. You get rid of someone who is highly suspicious of you, and by taking the reigns after his death you're able to steer the public opinion about his death in a direction that favors you. That motive makes much more sense to me than the wolves picking who to kill based on who says "hey guys let's look at the inactives" first.

[Charu]

I object that.

He wants suspicion and it's pissing me off that I don't know why he wants the attention. Would a wolf want suspicion on himself and then openly admit he wants it?

[pntballa18]

Like honestly that motive is extremely weak and I just don't believe that you could be so utterly convinced that it's without a doubt the reason why YoshL was killed.

[Xiz]

mellon

[pntballa18]

Originally Posted by Charu

I object that.

He wants suspicion and it's pissing me off that I don't know why he wants the attention. Would a wolf want suspicion on himself and then openly admit he wants it?

Either he's human and wanted attention to get better reads on people, or he made a mistake as a wolf and saying it was intentional was a way to talk himself out of it. I think the latter is what happened, but it seems like most people believed it was the first option. That shows me that he's been a confident player in the past, and is capable of attempting such a confident play night 2.

[Xiz]

Charu why haven't you voted yet

[Charu]

I haven't because as much as I pressured Riot and the cast of suspicions on sun and mellon, I'm not really convinced to vote just yet.

I withheld my vote on Riot because there was one or two people that casted a vote on him that made me go "hmmm...". Those people would be you, Xiz, and BDN.

I don't disagree the suspicion on mellon, but I don't agree with the vote. It's the same scenario day 1 where I'm not sure if this is all a ploy or she's actually innocent.

I flat out don't think sunfan is red.

[Charu]

I'll elaborate further on BDN. His posts, while summarizing the events and giving out suggestion, I find it just glorifying what we've already discussed.

[Silvuh]

dAnceguy117 will now be stepping in for Cedolad.

And because I'm making a post, I'll just stick another one of these here:

5-7 Vote Requirement
Riotpolice (3) - Xiz, BDN, Tokzic, Krauthammer
mellonxcollie (2) - thesunfan, Xiz
BDN (1) - thesunfan, T-Force
thesunfan (1) - pntballa18
pntballa18 (1) - Cedolad
Krauthammer (0) - Xiz
T-Force (0) - thesunfan
jwcgator (0) - Tokzic

Yet to Vote
runescapedude1126, jwcgator, Charu, mellonxcollie, Riotpolice

Xiz >> mellonxcollie
thesunfan >> mellonxcollie
Xiz >> Krauthammer
Xiz >> Riotpolice
thesunfan >> T-Force
pntballa18 >> thesunfan
BDN >> Riotpolice
thesunfan >> BDN
Tokzic >> jwcgator
cedolad >> pntballa18
Tokzic >> Riotpolice
T-Force >> BDN
Krauthammer >> Riotpolice
thesunfan >> mellonxcollie
Xiz >> mellonxcollie

[Charu]

Heyo danceguy, welcome to the fray!

[Xiz]

Charu I recommend just placing a vote to add pressure. You can always change it.

[Charu]

I wonder what you expect me to vote, hrmm...

I'm sorry mellon, but, you're the only one right now that would make sense to vote from me. I know Xiz has a vote on you and that really REALLY makes me uncomfortable, but... just know I really don't agree with this. There needs to be more evidence.

I'll drop the Riot trail for now, he hasn't really responded back or try to either correct or fumble further. Newbie or no, I recall the same treatment I got in my first game.

[Charu]

If I suddenly see votes sky rocket on mellon, I'm changing my vote, just fyi.

[dAnceguy117]

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@Xiz

slow down, bro. you've put in a ton of effort into this game so far, and that's awesome. even if you are working hard to find wolves, though, that doesn't necessarily mean you are helping the town to lynch wolves. your opinions may be valued more by others if you present them more concisely. you might also improve your own reads by separating yourself from the game every now and then.

definitely not gonna call you stupid or dumb though because 1) you are not stupid or dumb and 2) I am prone to doing this myself. one of my biggest goals this game is to correct this habit.

Originally Posted by Xiz

I am the most misunderstood green ever lmfao.

consider that you being nearly lynched may have been due more to poor decisions on your part than poor judgment from others.

it looks like you've been less OUTTA CONTROL during day 2, but I still think you should take a step back and breathe deeply here.

(if you are a wolf pls disregard all of the above, also know that imma keeeeeeel you)

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concerning Raeko (aka XxmelloncolliexXxX)

Originally Posted by Xiz

don't you think she might be trying a bit too hard to look green?

from what I can tell this seems to be the case brought against Raeko.

wolves try to look like humans. wolves try to avoid getting lynched. however, humans do these things too. IF this is the only thing being considered here then I don't see why a Raeko read should be anything other than null

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Originally Posted by thesunfan

Aite, I have an idea regarding the seering. Didn't want to say it, because it would've influenced the lynch, but I think the best strategy is to seer the person that just was lynched (as for the seer that seers during the day, got nothing for you.) This allows us to know whether we got a wolf, and if we did, look at who was defending them. If they come up human, I say we assume that unless some bizarre circumstance happens, we assume that they aren't the master wolf.

seering dead people would be wasteful. the seers should not and will not do this. feel free to ask if you need an explanation why, but try thinking about it from every angle first. I know you can figure it out.

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Charu for now. meta-read.

[Riotpolice]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Still don't agree with people suspecting RP, his newbie is showing more than his color. I just think he's an overly nervous green. Had to calm him before any shit started going down, and he's only worse now that it has.

Also, figured I'd get this out of the way, calm the fuck down RP lol.

I'm trying to calm down. Just didn't know that something as simple as a against Xiz could turn this whole game into a F5 shitstorm ya know?

Could we get a votecount please Silvu?