07-17-2014, 06:19 PM | #721 |
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Re: TWG CXX: Villains United
hook because there's pretty much no difference between him and auto as far as info from a hero flip goes but oh my fucking god auto flipping villa would be the biggest waste of time ever
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07-17-2014, 06:20 PM | #722 |
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fifth post to remind everyone with fewer than 20 posts to shoot some meth into their urethras
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07-17-2014, 06:22 PM | #723 |
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Well my last post was started before your last post, so I didn't see it.
And of course I am caring about others who vote for me. It's just that apparently in the FFR meta defending yourself before you're L-1 is a hero-tell. Not to mention everyone's voting me for posts that I've either explained or attempted to explain. The case against me seems to be mainly due to me breaking the KitB, which has already been analyzed and really tells NOTHING about me. As I already explained, I thought Hans was for the hero. As for the Shere Khan vote, how come when others vote inactives to get them active they get nods of approval but when I do it it's suddenly a hero-tell? |
07-17-2014, 06:24 PM | #724 |
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So whats your course of action if hook flips villain? Are you agreeing with hades in this case that auto is clear?
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This day phase has given me a hero lean on Hades and since we're coming down to end of day I'm going to put my vote back there. I still don't like Syndrome but I don't feel I'll get any steam on that wagon. I'd also be good with a Gaston kill, I don't like the random voting, flying UTR stuff while still trying to make his presence known here and there. I'm guessing no one was given that one shot kill last night? |
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07-17-2014, 06:32 PM | #726 |
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you can say a hero would never break a villa/villa split since on the surface they'd have nothing to gain
but what if there were more heroes voting for hook on d1 and auto splitting the vote makes more villains suspects? what if you apply wifom logic so fucking hard that it suddenly only makes sense for a hero to arbitrarily break up villa/villa ties? that said, i think the chance that auto is a villain if hook flips villa is significantly higher than 50% but he's definitely not clear hook flipping villa brings more attention to his aggressors and further suggests looking at the people who went for third party candidates on d1 |
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Starting to think you are a really new player and villain since you really think a hero would want to tunnel so early. It also explains your bad defensive stance in the first day. Still not completely sure about you though. I can vote you later if auto flips hero, but i dont want a hook flip to determine autos fate
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So let me preface this by saying it is always my modus operandii to focus on one person at a time until I get something from them I like enough to clear them. That failed us last phase, but I'm not a perfect wolf hunter. Nonetheless, it is my intent right now to convince you to lynch Hades and I don't feel ambivalent about that.
What I see from Hades that I really want you to consider is the phenomenon of sticking to his guns. It makes him appear confident, consistent, and clear, like saying "I Know Why I Think What I Think." In the normal course of every day life we find that quality attractive and trustworthy. But a game of TWG has a lot of arguing, people getting emotionally invested in their opinions and typing as fast as they can to try to keep up with their thinking, huge swings in opinion and resolve, and just an overall constantly shifting landscape of opinions and reasons. I have played at least 50 games of TWG in my life and my personal level of certainty and my self-conception of how right I could be still waver and fluctuate constantly as villa because to be honest: no one method will ever consistently get you results and you end up always being more wrong than you are right. It takes a vigilant, insomniac, paranoiac attitude to win as villa, and you have to acknowledge your imperfections and failures but never let them get in the way of your attitude. So what I really want is for you to review a few things that have been said by Hades: Quote:
The second can be seen as a way of selling the lynch. Calling it a "win-win" is coloring it in very fanciful language compared to the alternative. More on that later. Quote:
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1.) they don't provide anything for the other person to respond to (which he acknowledges, making that intentional). sometimes an insult coupled with a question is effective because you make the person feel guilty or stupid or something and then they want to answer the question to prove that they are not, but just attacking someone's character leads into: 2.) the main purpose of attacks like these is to get people to listen to the person they are attacking less because you feel threatened by them Quote:
I was genuinely suspicious of why he wouldn't want to go on Auto harder. It seemed contradictory and also it seemed that Auto was naturally in terms of the only stated opinions on the matter in the thread just an overall better bet. Auto's behavior is overtly a more wolfish thing to do, if Auto was a red then we would know Hook was also probably red. What I found weird after this though was his drift away from this topic, like he somehow was uncomfortable going into more and more, and starting to focus on other people in the thread. Quote:
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Posting in a vacuum is much easier than attacking people that you know are human. Alright that's where I'm leaving it, boys. Strike true. HADES |
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Xiz could we get a vote count again please?
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wow
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07-17-2014, 07:15 PM | #735 |
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Idk if you're right Cruella but that's pretty compelling
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Well in case day ends tonight Hades
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after skimming it seems like Hades is the way to go
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