TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Everybody is all over Sans the entirety of this phase, and he makes one post where he writes a sentence at best on everyone else and basically only writes something of value on me (probably the one person who he knows stands any chance of being a suitable replacement lynch for himself) and you all just go right along with it because fuck logic.

I voted Sans - got called out for it.
I unvoted Sans when there was talk of the wagon being unclean - got called out for it.
I put my vote on someone who did something that is probably the most legitimately scummy thing of this game so far (Undyne's eod vote) - got called out for it.

see this is the type of post i'd expect from a cornered town

[TWG Monster Kid]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

papyrus

huh?

[TWG Mettaton]

Originally Posted by TWG Monster Kid

That big Sans post does not sound like a cornered town

um......

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

papyrus

I'm curious as to why you'd vote on someone who claimed they'd get themselves a phantom this phase?

[TWG Monster Kid]

Let's start with Undyne (why not)

Based on posting consistent with my perceived read of their town game, I think I might put Undyne in the town pile for now. The vote yesterday looked like shit, and I know I explained this a little bit, but after some time to reflect, I don't feel like this was a wolfy move. They already had a vote parked on me, so why move if you know the flip is going to be the same as Asgore? It's unnecessary attention. If Undyne happens to flip wolf at some point it will make me look like a shitmaster, but I don't see her coming up as a wolf.

and theeeen how about MUFFET

Originally Posted by TWG Muffet

Not asgore because he's the heat right now. I'd like to see how they react over the days course and see how they throw their vote around. Having the heat on them for a days play through, if we keep it there, and having them alive in D2, would give us the best lead. In all honesty though, if asgore is the first to go, no skin off my back. I'm going off of usual game start gameplays and hunch. Not like I have hard proof or anything solid to play off of.

Now that we know Asgore is town, what do you nerds think of this post? I feel like I'm flip flopping on my initial perception, but rereading this post makes me retch a little. It's pretty defensive to say "I don't want to be a part of the wagon because everyone else is there and I don't want to associate with bad company if/when he flips green". The point on having them alive on D2 giving us better information is such a generally applied statement that this is legitimately meaningless.

Looking through other posts...

Originally Posted by TWG Muffet

Ok, so I'm going to apologize right now. I had the roles mixed up for some reason. Humans are bad not monsters.... lmao

So my read on undyne is still the same except he's playing apparent monster instead of wolf. I didn't like their vote, I knew they'd pull something like that. Their defensive on why they voted at the literal end of eod is abysmal.

Did you fuck up some phrasing here? You say he's playing an apparent monster, which would mean he's town. You mention their shitty vote in the same post (and some posts later when you vote for them). Weird, but is probably a typo.

Originally Posted by TWG Muffet

The only tie i have with mk is if they are a monster. I'm not so much wishy washy, more so don't want to take them down solely by association. While, I do think they are with you, because of your actions, by themselves mk only leans red/null with me.

Can you be more specific with your red/null read on me? Your only evidence against me thus far is that I withheld information on Day 0. Other than that, it seems to be nothing but guilt by association with Undyne. I have been forthcoming with all of my information moving into this phase because there is more data for me to work with, henceforth, more conclusions for me to pursue.


gonna keep lookin'

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

I'm curious as to why you'd vote on someone who claimed they'd get themselves a phantom this phase?

I'm getting a phantom next phase on purpose
will you townread me then?

phantoms REALLY show you care about the game, especially when you can easily avoid them if you're not FUCKING BRAINDEAD

[Xiz]

Ghetto Oldschool Votecount Since Xiz Apparently Broke FennicFox:
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(2) TWG Sans: TWG Alphys, TWG Tsunderplane
(2) TWG Undyne: TWG Muffet, TWG Napstablook
(2) TWG So Sorry: TWG Flowey, TWG Mettaton
(1) TWG Napstablook: TWG Monster Kid
(1) TWG Papyrus: TWG Mad Dummy


No Vote: TWG Doggo, TWG Papyrus, TWG Sans, TWG So Sorry, TWG Temmie, TWG Undyne

[TWG Alphys]

Good to see that Doggo's catching up /s

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I'm getting a phantom next phase on purpose
will you townread me then?

phantoms REALLY show you care about the game, especially when you can easily avoid them if you're not FUCKING BRAINDEAD

I agree with you fully, I was just curious if that (the post in question) was the sole reason or if there was something more to it.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

I agree with you fully, I was just curious if that (the post in question) was the sole reason or if there was something more to it.

they've made a whole lot of posts that say a whole lot of nothing

[TWG Mad Dummy]

and I have no real reason to kill most anyone else*

I have a lot of null/monster leans

[TWG Sans]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Everybody is all over Sans the entirety of this phase, and he makes one post where he writes a sentence at best on everyone else and basically only writes something of value on me (probably the one person who he knows stands any chance of being a suitable replacement lynch for himself) and you all just go right along with it because fuck logic.

I voted Sans - got called out for it.
I unvoted Sans when there was talk of the wagon being unclean - got called out for it.
I put my vote on someone who did something that is probably the most legitimately scummy thing of this game so far (Undyne's eod vote) - got called out for it.

its too bad your past posts make me think otherwise

maybe if you didn't start the day by going "gee, i wonder if that was an attempt at a blue kill", then maybe i wouldn't have said that much about you.

[TWG Monster Kid]

SO SORRY:

Originally Posted by TWG So Sorry

Hey temmie, do you have thoughts on monster kid and mad dummy? I looked at your posts and you seem pretty trained on Sans with a little bit on mad dummy and monster kid... the vote kind of looks opportunistic considering the small amount of posts you have (coming from someone with 12 posts ;_

Really dude? Most of your 12 prior posts are empty, and the only two posts that offer content have very little reasoning attached to it ("I think undyne is slight monsterish in my book!"). Something about this post feels like baby's first mislynch attempt.

Originally Posted by TWG So Sorry

Whats wrong with those posts again?
Im literally just throwing out things that should have been on everyones mind anyways so that we can talk about it. I thought it was helpful. Hoping to spark a good discussion on the wagoners. Not trying to change the course of anything that is happening thus far.

It's good to make discussion with wagoners, but you really only named one person with a smidgeon of your opinion injected. Speaking of your opinion...

Originally Posted by TWG So Sorry

Once again, what is wrong with that post? Flowey and alphys have both called attention to it, and im really not seeing the problem. Maybe cuz im skewed to my own ideas, which of course makes sense. If someone could explain their view without using my quoted posts to explain it, thatd be great. Or at least provide some useful insight. As far as thats concerned, the current remarks arent helping further anything. You guys are making me talk in circles

You mention in here you're skewed toward your own ideas. So far, here are the own ideas that you've presented to the thread:
Temmie's vote on Sans is opportunistic (negatively painting Temmie, unknown stance on Sans)
Undyne is "monstery in my book"

Would you care sharing your other ideas and opinions about other players? I think that would be much more helpful.

Originally Posted by TWG So Sorry

Yes, its a neutral stance because i dont have any reads. Just some scenarios to think about in conjunction with sans.
There was also no agreement statement, just neutral. I dont care if people start prodding me, it would help me with the game and formulation.

consider this vote your prod while I read other players. Hope you're around for this final hour twg so sorry

NEXT....

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

its too bad your past posts make me think otherwise

maybe if you didn't start the day by going "gee, i wonder if that was an attempt at a blue kill", then maybe i wouldn't have said that much about you.

as much as that was a boneheaded decision i'm reading it more as genuine curiosity and not "man i hope the wolves nailed a blue wouldn't that be great" mostly because i'd like to think someone wouldn't be that stupid and out themselves in that fashion

[TWG Mettaton]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

its too bad your past posts make me think otherwise

maybe if you didn't start the day by going "gee, i wonder if that was an attempt at a blue kill", then maybe i wouldn't have said that much about you.

to be fair I don't see that as a scum-tell, I've done that both as town and as wolf personally

it's null at best

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

its too bad your past posts make me think otherwise

maybe if you didn't start the day by going "gee, i wonder if that was an attempt at a blue kill", then maybe i wouldn't have said that much about you.

Was it weird? Yes I'll admit that..but it was literally the first thing that came to mind. When someone who had so little thread presence dies for seemingly no reason I start tinfoiling. Given that there statistically has to at least be one active human (Backpack's literally the only person I've seen who refuses to play as scum) attributing that to a random kill doesn't really sit well with me so I just started thinking of reasons.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

I really think people should consider iso'ing Papyrus, he's done absolutely nothing townie

[TWG Monster Kid]

GHOST BOY NAPSTABLOOK:

Got some flak from Mettaton by making an opportunistic vote. FWIW I don't see it as being horribly opportunistic given the fact there was plenty of time left in the phase and it was a pretty good argument against Sans (which I echoed later). The big thing here was the fact you didn't really contribute anything of your own and it felt a bit sheepy. Consider this action neutral for me.

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

I didn't.

Can you elaborate a bit on your thoughts of Kid? You say you still don't like him yet you had the chance to have him lynched at eod and moved your vote elsewhere. Do you think there's a human between Alphys or Sans?

I like this question posed at Undyne since it is a follow-up to one of their first posts of the phase. It's easy to abandon a post like this:

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

This vote stinks btw

and just ignore it, but it looks like Napstablook here isn't just throwing out shade without following it up.

OH WAIT

Undyne never addresses this question, and Napstablook's response?
FUCKING NOTHING
In fact, Undyne even enters the thread and responds to Napstablook's post about doggo, and Napstablook replies to Undyne without even mentioning it. WHOOOOOOOA NELLY

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Yeah yeah, I wasn't advocating a lynch on him unless there wasn't a clear decisive target by the end of today. I'd rather see someone who isn't posting who has the potential to be a human go over someone who is at least generating content and driving discussion.

Here's the aforementioned post.

Consider Napstablook on the scum radar!

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Oh I'll go back to Undyne then I guess
are you basing this solely off of the whole 1 in 4 statistics?

IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER!! Undyne was in the thread talking with you and you conveniently dropped the point, only to pick it back up later without saying something like "y'know, Undyne never responded to my point and that looks sketchy as hell" or "Undyne made a terrible post here, here, and here. Therefore, my vote is back"

NEXT... Flowey

[TWG Monster Kid]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I really think people should consider iso'ing Papyrus, he's done absolutely nothing townie

considering the fact he's lurker fmpov this seems pretty scummy from him. I expect more attacks. Like, way more attacks. I'm still interested in other parties though.

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I really think people should consider iso'ing Papyrus, he's done absolutely nothing

ftfy