TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv - Page 34

cedolad · 05-9-2014, 04:13 PM

damn it Jake.

**Guest15937** · 05-9-2014, 04:17 PM

For obvious reasons, I'm NOT happy with a Guest lynch today :P

For me, it goes Cedo >>>>>>>>>>> XelNya > Backpack.

So yeah, I'd prefer lynching Cedo, if we're going to agree to not hunt down the liar today.

cedolad · 05-9-2014, 04:21 PM

And can you tell us why you're up for lynching me today? I mean it's a hot topic, I agree. But just using that alone as fuel to start a bandwagon is stupid fishy.

cedolad · 05-9-2014, 04:22 PM

And how are you so sure there's a liar?

cedolad · 05-9-2014, 04:22 PM

We can't prove there is a liar because the gunsmith has yet to come out. There isn't a guaranteed liar.

**Gradiant** · 05-9-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cedolad

damn it Jake.

Wow, I'm really fucking things up for you this game aren't I...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedolad

We can't prove there is a liar because the gunsmith has yet to come out. There isn't a guaranteed liar.

I'm sorry for bringing up that I was suspicious of freezin, I feel this is making everybody bring up the point of somebody lying.

**Gradiant** · 05-9-2014, 04:39 PM

Also Guest, it probably would've helped your position to talk more in the game rather than refusing to do so. Especially since you left the thread now rather than attempt to defend yourself when it looks like you will be lynched.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 05-9-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Guest15937

For obvious reasons, I'm NOT happy with a Guest lynch today :P

For me, it goes Cedo >>>>>>>>>>> XelNya > Backpack.

So yeah, I'd prefer lynching Cedo, if we're going to agree to not hunt down the liar today.

Guest, since it's looking like it might come down to you or xelnya today. We need you to speak up for yourself.

Why do you have Backpack lowest on your list.
Why do you think Cedo is the best choice to lynch.

What are you thinking in general?

We need you to post when it comes down to situations like this, and we need you to show examples and give reasoning.

I don't want to toss a coin in the air and hope it hits the right player, I want to make a decision at the end of the day I think is right. I can't do that if my read on you doesn't expand a good deal beyond where it currently is.

DaBackpack · 05-9-2014, 05:00 PM

I'm still a little worried that an anti-town is currently hiding in the blues.

I still agree that we should narrow our search down to the four of us. I would say eliminate the four of us first. (Should take two days for this.) Then I trust you'll be able to win from the blue claims, right?

DaBackpack · 05-9-2014, 05:03 PM

Like, we might be in a bit of trouble if Manti is anti-town. Since he seems to be the one 'reverse-engineering the game.'

I ask the rest of the blues, can you figure out if Manti's lying later on after the four of the non-claimers are dead? We can't leave it entirely to him. (THis is just general strategy, shouldn't be having a single person in control of the plan.)

DaBackpack · 05-9-2014, 05:06 PM

Sorry for the multi-posting, I just want to elaborate some more.

You've all heard of group-think, right? If one person gives a solution, then the rest of the people are inclined to believe him without seriously questioning it.

We can estimate 2 anti-town left as a worst case. I want three people who will be meticulous about Manti's plan so we don't have anti-town fucking us.

**Guest15937** · 05-9-2014, 05:08 PM

Well, I've already expressed why I think Cedo is antitown, multiple times in fact. I thought there was a liar because I thought I read in one of Manti's posts that there were too many blues for there to not be a liar--sorry if this isn't the case and I misread.

XelNya/sunfan was messed up in too much crap on D1 for him to be entirely off my list, which Backpack was not, hence Xel > Backpack. Plus Xel has done very little since his replacement besides point fingers at me.

As for where the game stands, I'm inclined to believe that there is at least one Vig, because the kill on lurker doesn't seem to me like it would have been done by an antitown role. However, I'm also pretty sure there is an SK, because if the lurker kill was by a Vig, the wolf kill would have been Xiz (because it's obviously not Charu), and there would have been a third killing role to kill Charu. I personally think it more likely that a SK would have killed Charu than a Vig, considering Charu's role in lynching Riot D0.

That's at least what I'm thinking as far as roles.

cedolad · 05-9-2014, 05:08 PM

Realistically anyone can reverse engineer the game. It really isn't that hard. But to find out who may or may not be lying will force the claimed blues to really claim their roles. Right now we know the setup is

H, H, T, R, R, x, x

If we can figure out the other two x's, we can find out if anyone is lying.

**Guest15937** · 05-9-2014, 05:13 PM

How do we know RR? Did some claim gunsmith?

**Guest15937** · 05-9-2014, 05:14 PM

And what about T? I agree with the T, but it's still possible that there's no T's based on what we know about the mafia roles if I'm understanding this correctly.

**XelNya** · 05-9-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cedolad

And can you tell us why you're up for lynching me today? I mean it's a hot topic, I agree. But just using that alone as fuel to start a bandwagon is stupid fishy.

You're a psychopath. That's why. (In all seriousness I'd like a response to this.)

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Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Guest, since it's looking like it might come down to you or xelnya today.

ZEIG HAIL! TOTEN DIE ERSATZ!

There is your new nazi regime my friends. The regime of Anti Soonfan. Where
the replacement is killed for being his replacement. And not off any actual logic.

Fire a question at me if you really care to I suppose.

**Gradiant** · 05-9-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Guest15937

As for where the game stands, I'm inclined to believe that there is at least one Vig, because the kill on lurker doesn't seem to me like it would have been done by an antitown role. However, I'm also pretty sure there is an SK, because if the lurker kill was by a Vig, the wolf kill would have been Xiz (because it's obviously not Charu), and there would have been a third killing role to kill Charu.

This situation doesn't seem to be nearly as likely as Ziv dying because he chose to hide behind the wrong person.

cedolad · 05-9-2014, 05:19 PM

Oops. You're right about the R's, I thought Gradiant was implying that his role was the Gunsmith. So the R's aren't there.

As for the T's, that was in Manti's original post regarding his plan for releasing the blues.

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Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

We have at least one more blue out there who isn't claiming, and possibly 2.

That being said, we already publicly know our setup is H.H_._._._.T

Xiz was a hider
Hans is one shot commuter
[u]I'm a single letter pull[u]

This leaves 3 blanks.
One is blindreaper.
There is room for either a gunsmith or two more blue roles.
.

I think Manti is the SK.

**Guest15937** · 05-9-2014, 05:19 PM

If xiz hid behind the wrong person, who did he hide behind? and who would that make the wolf kill? I still don't believe the wolves would kill lurker, considering there were people eager to lynch him D0.

cedolad · 05-9-2014, 05:22 PM

He could have hid behind Charu.

05-9-2014, 04:13 PM	#661
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv damn it Jake. __________________

05-9-2014, 04:17 PM	#662
Guest15937 One-handed elite Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,464	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv For obvious reasons, I'm NOT happy with a Guest lynch today :P For me, it goes Cedo >>>>>>>>>>> XelNya > Backpack. So yeah, I'd prefer lynching Cedo, if we're going to agree to not hunt down the liar today. __________________ The renegade has betrayed me.

05-9-2014, 04:21 PM	#663
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv And can you tell us why you're up for lynching me today? I mean it's a hot topic, I agree. But just using that alone as fuel to start a bandwagon is stupid fishy. __________________

05-9-2014, 04:22 PM	#664
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv And how are you so sure there's a liar? __________________

05-9-2014, 04:22 PM	#665
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv We can't prove there is a liar because the gunsmith has yet to come out. There isn't a guaranteed liar. __________________

05-9-2014, 04:39 PM	#667
Gradiant FFR's Resident Trashpanda Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Michigan Age: 29 Posts: 1,095	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv Also Guest, it probably would've helped your position to talk more in the game rather than refusing to do so. Especially since you left the thread now rather than attempt to defend yourself when it looks like you will be lynched.

05-9-2014, 05:08 PM	#672
Guest15937 One-handed elite Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,464	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv Well, I've already expressed why I think Cedo is antitown, multiple times in fact. I thought there was a liar because I thought I read in one of Manti's posts that there were too many blues for there to not be a liar--sorry if this isn't the case and I misread. XelNya/sunfan was messed up in too much crap on D1 for him to be entirely off my list, which Backpack was not, hence Xel > Backpack. Plus Xel has done very little since his replacement besides point fingers at me. As for where the game stands, I'm inclined to believe that there is at least one Vig, because the kill on lurker doesn't seem to me like it would have been done by an antitown role. However, I'm also pretty sure there is an SK, because if the lurker kill was by a Vig, the wolf kill would have been Xiz (because it's obviously not Charu), and there would have been a third killing role to kill Charu. I personally think it more likely that a SK would have killed Charu than a Vig, considering Charu's role in lynching Riot D0. That's at least what I'm thinking as far as roles. __________________ The renegade has betrayed me.

05-9-2014, 05:08 PM	#673
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv Realistically anyone can reverse engineer the game. It really isn't that hard. But to find out who may or may not be lying will force the claimed blues to really claim their roles. Right now we know the setup is H, H, T, R, R, x, x If we can figure out the other two x's, we can find out if anyone is lying. __________________

05-9-2014, 05:13 PM	#674
Guest15937 One-handed elite Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,464	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv How do we know RR? Did some claim gunsmith? __________________ The renegade has betrayed me.

05-9-2014, 05:14 PM	#675
Guest15937 One-handed elite Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,464	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv And what about T? I agree with the T, but it's still possible that there's no T's based on what we know about the mafia roles if I'm understanding this correctly. __________________ The renegade has betrayed me.

05-9-2014, 05:19 PM	#679
Guest15937 One-handed elite Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,464	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv If xiz hid behind the wrong person, who did he hide behind? and who would that make the wolf kill? I still don't believe the wolves would kill lurker, considering there were people eager to lynch him D0. __________________ The renegade has betrayed me.

05-9-2014, 05:22 PM	#680
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: TWG CXIV - Coronation of Xiv He could have hid behind Charu. __________________

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