TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

[Gradiant]

Gonna start copying my posts so that i don't lose them when the site acts up yet again.

I do agree Tokzic needs to post a lot more. Not expecting a shitload of content as it's day 1 though there is some shit going on to have more of an opinion on. I do like him bringing up the questions though as it's something that's been noticeable to me.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I do like him bringing up the questions though as it's something that's been noticeable to me.

Not how it relates to the previous game since I probably wasn't in that one, but the questions themselves.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm tilted because we lost our fucking cop n0 and people are being idiots and charu is baiting me

I get that, I just don't feel like you have a history of doing that as town

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I get that, I just don't feel like you have a history of doing that as town

or rather, because there is this lack of history, I don't understand why Red is townreading you for the reasoning he gave*

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

(from what I remember he likes those easy mislynches as a wolf)

wow, harsh

Originally Posted by thesunfan

but I don't know if I've ever seen AA get that tilted as town before from being pushed on

actually, when i have the time, gotta look back at a past game I remember where I thought AA and Zenith were a pair when it was just Zenith pocketing town AA. I don't remember AA acting like this in that game, he was just dealing with it until I realized it was just Zenith as scum.

[Gradiant]

Think it was the game with the 2 scum teams and Zenith outed himself by saying he thought I had a red cop check on him.

[Gradiant]

Would be cool if the history thread was up to date, I can't find this shit.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Really obnoxious trying to type longer responses and then getting this shit when actually posting

It's annoying at any time to get this.

[XelNya]

So before I get to the other stuff this needs to be commented on:

Originally Posted by Tokzic

i've only skimmed a couple random pages in this thread so far, and i already got a bad feeling in my gut about aa

he's doing the thing i've seen him do as his partner in a past game, where he asks a questionable number of questions

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

to summarize: 4 shitposts, says stuff is coming later, then breadcrumbs a bandwagon on a player who's pressured right now

Tokzic isn't wrong. Except I'd rephrase it to "When AA is wolf, he's only wolf when talking to his partners, otherwise he'll gladly throw his buddies under the bus.

Which isn't what's going on here.

AA in the freeze wars game was a fucking beast, which is what I think Tokzic is mostly referring to (correct me if I'm wrong please.)

AA from what I can recall is asking questions, but he's not riding any particular person (a partner perhaps.)

Again, as I write this I have not read the whole thread. Going strictly off memory here.

You might argue that "ayy Xel you been home long enough to have read the thread."

And you're right.

I decided to chart another 20 seconds of a song for SSS3.

#priorities

[XelNya]

Fucking can't punctuate for fucking garbage.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

So before I get to the other stuff this needs to be commented on:





Tokzic isn't wrong. Except I'd rephrase it to "When AA is wolf, he's only wolf when talking to his partners, otherwise he'll gladly throw his buddies under the bus.

Which isn't what's going on here.

AA in the freeze wars game was a fucking beast, which is what I think Tokzic is mostly referring to (correct me if I'm wrong please.)

AA from what I can recall is asking questions, but he's not riding any particular person (a partner perhaps.)

Again, as I write this I have not read the whole thread. Going strictly off memory here.

You might argue that "ayy Xel you been home long enough to have read the thread."

And you're right.

I decided to chart another 20 seconds of a song for SSS3.

#priorities

Further note needs to be made in that I am not saying this is AA's meta, or that he always does this. I'd say it's probably a case by case thing.

But I don't see it happening from what I remember, so it's kinda moot.

In fact I think AA off the top of my head was feelin' pretty ok to me yesterday but that may change pending my catching up.

[XelNya]

Fuck it, we doing a reread this early in the game.

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by storn42

Being that was one of his more recent games I'd be inclined to believe that it wouldn't be far off to make the jump that it isn't changed. I wouldn't be as hesitant to keep a scum read off of this, thought it is worth noting.

But that situation is entirely different to this game, so drawing comparisons is kind of a stretch don't you think?

[XelNya]

So fuck it.

I'm gonna go over the whole game.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I would have semi-cleared yoshl off of that kill but he's not in this game

I don't think roundbox kills backpack here either though

The immediate question I have for AA is why is this a post you make so quickly?

There's been ZERO talk of a box that's round yet and you just kinda start with this aside from you know, intro anger w/e.

I dunno why you made this post.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

why do you think roundbox doesn't kill DBP

who do you think kills DBP

Remember when I said that the kill is probably a tell? (Happens later than this post.) Probably because #predictable?

But maybe you're like me and the post seems out of place where it is.

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Round would kill for revenge from last game, but I don't know if round is like that.

#Predictable

#Ididn'treadlastgamebut

#framedprobably

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I was honestly expecting Sunfan to come in here with a 'only Charu would do a night kill this random' or whatever

Agreed if AA hadn't said what he did.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

this is why round is a good player

he doesn't have anything like a vice that he plays by, he just plays the game, so things like "round would/wouldn't make x kill" don't really exist

but, this is my opinion, why do you feel the way you do?

I dunno, I feel Round does but isn't vocal about it, but I dunno 'em good 'nuff.

Originally Posted by Charu

Charu likes this thought and nods in agreement.

"Makes sense."

So. Much. Sarcasm.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I don't think its a random kill

#framed

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

even so it doesn't matter, I think most people don't like killing people they know better, they'd rather kill strangers or maybe people they're afraid of

I'd kill Trevor first if the choice was 100% mine.

<3

Good speculation though.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

it doesn't *feel* random to me, at least not yet.

DBP has been living late into games a lot lately, so I can see people killing him out of politeness

DBP is a player who is known to project town literally to a fault, so I can see people killing him over that

I think that there are a lot more random kills that could've been made. Again, it doesn't mean that its *not* random, it just feels like if you're gonna make a random kill there, its not likely to be DBP imo

On this thought I think the most random kill to make this game would be Gold Stinger.

In fact, scum should have killed him first, because then they get charu #framed quickly.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

this is true in general for a lot of people, but I don't think that roundbox is one of these people

its whatever though

On this, BR (round box shall be BR so he's not confused with ass blaster.) seems like the type to make plays based on thinking it out.

And the thought here surely would cross his mind he'd could get faulted for it. It doesn't feel "safe."

So I feel the only reason BR makes that kill is if partners overrule him.

Originally Posted by gold stinger

(pls rape me gently)

No.

Originally Posted by gold stinger

If the kill wasn't random imo someone red could be from the previous game or something, he played last round right? (Thank god I skimmed the thread because I was interested in playing this round)

So you got Charu, Red Blaster, blindreper, thesunfan, botchi, and DaBackpack who is already dead.

Vote's on Charu because I don't like extremely good players possibly being a red, especially now with no fucking cop.

I liked the first half of this post.

I don't like the Charu vote though. Not for that reasoning. If you're gonna suggest that line of thought why not go sunf-

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

do you not think greg is an "extremely good player"

GET OUT OF MY HEAD YOU BASTARD.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

that's what I'm thinking of, I went back and looked at the signup list, none of the names are really leaping out at me as people that would kill DBP

maybe Xel? No reasoning here though, just initial gut. I tend not to care too much about the n0 kill unless its very clearly a kill that sends a message, and I think that there are too many people who would be more than ok with having DBP die n0 as I said earlier (politeness, tryharding)

I don't really care that DBP died, I doubt we're ever going to get hard reads based on it. Its so rare that ever happens, and I don't think that this nightkill is one that can be analyzed all that much.

Can't say I disagree with you but let me kinda toss this out even if it's moot because I could twist this any particular way I want:

I'd probably have killed more randomly pending team not overruling me.

Town Backpack is scary if he lives long, but that's a bit of a gamble, and it's one I'd take. I'd go for Charu / Greggles / AA if I was killing based on who scares me.

But killing town Backpack is NEVER bad. I can't argue with the choice tbh.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

yeah I just wanted to see what people thought but everyone ignored me except you (and blind)

actually clearing anyone off of the nightkill is dumb

Stuff like this is why I like AA so far this game aside from the goddamned first post.

Originally Posted by botchi246

Omfg already with this. I finally get a town game and im gonna get screwed early by sunfan. Already over this game

This response is shit.

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm proud of you, you rolled wolf this game.

Originally Posted by Charu

*Pets the AA* Aww... cutie...

I sense more sarcasm in this...

But let me ask just in case.

Were you at all serious...?

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I've got a feeling deep down in my colon that Charu is a wolf here.

I dunno. I think everything here has been null till the above quoted posts.

Which I think is Charu kinda calling AA out which could be

Nah it's still null.

----------Shit Posting Ensures-----------

Originally Posted by cedolad

Oh yeah, so why would you wanna fake n0 checks?

Are you fucki-

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

not sure if serious

FUCK OFF.

Originally Posted by roundbox

throws wolves off for cop hunting and gives humans lots of information if people die. mostly, it allows the cop to safely reveal his green peek without full on claiming cop

D:

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

As for the discussion of who would/wouldn't kill Backpack, I seriously can't find any reasoning to rule any one of you out. I don't think it will lead town anywhere trying to make the kill fit to someone at this point.

Of course you can't. I mean you're gonna skate to D3 or so as scum.

I mean, why bother trying?

Originally Posted by botchi246

This came off as weird to me because it is kinda defensive over round but not at the same time. I know you were responding to blindreper, but still its off. This also makes me look at roundbox with some serious side eye.



I was afraid of you that one of the games when I was a wolf, so this is very plausible from my experience.



Are you afraid of DBP's skills?


For right now, I am gonna just say sunfan is pinging my radar, and not because he already called my first post wolfy which was just BS. Im pretty sure that no matter what first post I do, its gonna come out wrong, and I have no control over that apparently.

Just some early game thoughts, so please take as much stock in them as your little minds desire.

I redefine this scum read
Fain activity exquisite
Everything you post
Bathed in fake activity

Imagine me, the mod above no doubt will see this
Never feign activity in such confidence that you won't get scum read
For a fake ass post

(Cedolad you better fucking get this parody. I'm gonna hate you if you don't.)

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

well botchi is already more towny in his first 3 posts then all of last game

Don't flatter him please.

:/

Originally Posted by botchi246

Right charu?!! I was not expecting that

I just don't even fucking -

Are you kidding me?

You goddamned fucking scum bag.

Is this happening?

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

You didn't miss much

YES I DID.

Originally Posted by XelNya

Well, save for good ol' greggles

fucking pure townie hack-job.

Elaboration required - greggles was being read as town at the time

and still is as I write this

so I wanted to clarify this wasn't sarcasm.

You're welcome for when I get mislynched later.

Originally Posted by storn42

Of any smart woof team they would instantly go for dbp n0 knowing that he's not a woof. This doesn't help much but it narrows down who the first woof could be.

Except by this argument

No offense Backpack, I love you man (your avi is god-tier)

But Greggles is again certainbly the better bet here.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

what gives you those first impressions

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

this makes no sense lol

why are you eliminating those people as partners?

If Tokzic is later talking about stuff like this from AA being a reason to scum read him, this is standard AA stuff here mate. Nothing new here. Town lean this man and walk away...

Originally Posted by gold stinger

The convo between AA & sunfan is worth a re-read, I'm getting the vibe that there's some sort of defense in roundbox's favor in there, and roundbox hasn't exactly commented on any of it yet. Would like to hear what he thinks on it. Just feels like a whole lot of AA & sunfan agreeing with each other about why roundbox is excluded and blindreper slightly challenging it.

Also I missed roundbox in my list of people participating in this game that were also in the last game.

Conversation was yeah a defense of BR, but also you can argue it was AA and Greggles trying to poke each other for thoughts to get everyone talking about it to aquire possible scum leans.

It was good stuff.

SAVE FOR AGAIN AA'S FIRST POST. I'M HUNG UP ON IT AND IT'S JUST

IT REEKS OF NOT BEING NATURAL.

IT BUGS ME.

BECAUSE I AM STILL READING AA TOWN.

tldr: Greg / AA convo is two town talking.

Originally Posted by roundbox

Answering that question is like purposely walking into a minefield. Not gonna WIFOM myself here.

Shut up and take my town-lean.

Originally Posted by cedolad

This is a point that has irked me since I glanced over it, and glad I finally got to sit down and read it a bit more.

Now I don't know half of this meta shit anymore, or how any of you play nonetheless. But this is something that doesn't seem like sunfan's mental play. Especially since I feel he's just walking in circles.

The only part of this I agree with you on is the very last part of that post.

I think it matters he died. I think we CAN get a read off it, but later. Not early game. I disagree with the last part entierly, bvut only again in context of mid-game.

Originally Posted by roundbox

HOT TIP FOR ALL Y'ALL: gold stinger is playing on invisible. You can tell he's in the thread if the number of members exceeds the number of names viewing the thread

Hot tip: I'm going to leave this thread open at times to mess with you guys who aren't aware of my work schedule.

BECAUSE I CAN HURP.

Originally Posted by cedolad

In the meanwhile I've playing Alpha Sapphire over again in preparation for Sun/Moon. Which one are you guys getting?

Also I'm like 45% RB/round are a pair.

Fite me 6 v 6 smogon OU

I WILL FUCK YOU UP FREN.

Originally Posted by roundbox

holy fucking shit are people really going to this? I'm not about to be fucking lynched today because DaBackpack died and people are discussing whether or not I'm connected. Frankly, this is fucked is people are calling things FINAL when the phase hasn't even been open for 24 hours.

Yep.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

are you scumreading me? why are you grouping me with the RB co?

Part of me dislikes this post because it's uneedingly defensive.

The other part of me likes this post becauise it IS a reasonable question.

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

As flawed as the logic on finding round scummy is, at least there's logic behind it..I don't see the case for AA.
I dont have a most lynchable candidate yet, I don't honestly think any if you should. As it stands currently, no.

Reads have changed,
Scum of the lowest calibur make me really mad
Again and again, you make the same mistakes
I can't ask to make that change
Your activity faked,
The scummiest of the game

(More parody, I'm in the mood for bad jokes inside my srs long ass post.)

Originally Posted by cedolad

Botchi, blind. Care to chime in on anything? I feel like there's enough dug up to stir a conversation or two.

Round, care to answer me this?

Finally I like you enough to town-lean you

FUCK.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

He's pretty null right now cause he hasn't said shit

Agreed.

Originally Posted by cedolad

So instead of pressuring him to give out more information, you back off of him? That is really backward and I am not understanding where you're coming from. If anything, if there is any doubt about someone potentially sending that sort of N0 kill, then you should want to know everything they're thinking.

That's just my two sense.

/passes icepack to AA for that burn

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I only have one real townread right now and it's botchi for his tone in his few posts, in particular this one.

I'm null on a lot of people, I didn't like you at first because it felt like you were lurking, claiming you needed to think about stuff and still failing to contribute even with lots of stuff in the thread but that seems to have passed. I wouldn't lynch you today, not sure on your alignment right now

I don't like charu, the shitposting feels like too much, it seems like when he's asked serious questions he kind of brushes them off. I need to reread though.

I don't like tokzic, his entrance I joke voted him for because we shouldn't be killing humans then, but his behavior since then doesn't line up cause it seemed like he wanted to come out strong and there's been nothing since

haven't noticed anything special from xel, storn hasn't done shit so I'm really null on those two.

I'm not sure about sunfan, I tend to scumread him a lot regardless and I think it's just his posting style. I mentioned earlier that I felt decent about him but I'm probably biased because he agreed with me a lot.

red blaster/roundbox's reactions to things have seemed alright but I'm not sure on them either.

blindreper is another person I'm concerned about, it feels like he's trying to come of as emotional and invested but I'm not really feeling it.

I'll get to interactions after the reread but for now where I'm at is blind/charu/tokzic as my top candidates

Botchi's fucking scum, you twat

How did ANYONE town read him on that post?

Let me analyze this shit quick

"this came off as weird to me..."

This is perfectly something greg would say.

"I was afraid..."

GARBAGE NEXT

"Are you afraid of dbp's skills?"

YEAH NO. The fuck does this have to fucking do with fucking anything, fuck.

"sunfan is is on my radar..."

Fuck can't be bothered anymore.

tldr: post is shit

The charu comment is fair. It's why I have him as null ATM of writing this.

tokzic comment is ok

AA plz. Buddy pal fren.

Storn's been.. Wait he's in this game?

RB is scum

BR is leaned town but I'm ok if I need to adjust that

'Kay at least yer honest on the greggles read

I feel like I'm BLIND to some posts.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

why does it make me look worse for throwing your name out? I was speculating about the nightkill but as I said I don't think it should be the deciding factor in the lynch because there are so many more effective ways to determine people's alignments

Location, location, location.

Ok that BR and AA interaction is weird.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

resolving data points that you can't figure out by lynching them is more than likely to lose town the game, might as well just random lynch every phase, no?

Get the fuck outta this game Zenith.

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

So cedo said in his post about blind that every game he plays with blind he (blind) dies super early, I looked back like through 4 pages of the archives and only found once occurrence where this was the case in TWG CXXI, so either it was YEARRRRRRRS ago or he's fibbing!

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Doubt this has any, or much, merit, but yeah..consider yourself fact checked!

FUCK ME YOUR'RE STILL DOING THIS

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Originally Posted by Gradiant

Remembering Pikachu in smash game getting caught because me and another person in the wolf team were ignoring him when bringing up inactive players as possible lynch candidates

I'm 1,000% sure I actually got lynched because of a sloppy cop fake-claim.

And I you know

Lynched myself.

Charu BR interaction is interesting.

Not what I expected out of it there.

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Nah bitch, you're not going to vote like that and then leave

Wrecked.

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

storn

BUT OF COURSE...

With that though.

Town:

greggles
AA
Roundbox
Pedolad
Gradiant

null

charu
Storn
blind
Tokzic

scummy

RB
Botchi
GS
Me (duh) -( ._. )/

Red Blaster

HOPEFULLY YA'LL GET WHERE I AM COMIN' FROM. BECAUSE I JUST SPENT WAYYYYYY LONGER ON THIS THAN I SHOULD.

[Tokzic]

☐ Thought Provoking Content
☑ Another Shitpost

[Tokzic]

~serious posts~ coming this afternoon

(or maybe they'll just be more shitposts, are you feeling lucky punk)

[storn42]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

all the bold says is "I could make a read on AA one way or the other"

Actually it was a "this shouldn't be something to make you change your mind, but instead something that should be on a list of bullet points in argument about how you'rebeing read" but you wer ed pretty damn close..

[storn42]

And ouch AA. I'm offended that you think my woof play is that bad.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

lmao the sheep is real

do you have anything better than "getting vibes from that game I subbed in where he was a woof" yet?

Yes

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

LOL are you fucking kidding me, I've been insisting AGAINST there being 3 mafia, we know there's one dead from roundbox/helphelp/xelnya and I'm pretty sure dfr was a wolf as well. I was asking xiz to give an example because he was going by the worst-case scenario

if you're going to try and scumread me at least read my posts

Once again. You seem to be at odds against me. Once again you seem to just be shutting on people's posts rather than solving things yourself. Someone mentionedhow you like to go for easy myslynches. Guess who's easy? NOT..

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by storn42

Yes



Once again. You seem to be at odds against me. Once again you seem to just be shutting on people's posts rather than solving things yourself. Someone mentionedhow you like to go for easy myslynches. Guess who's easy? NOT..

I'm at odds with you because it seems like you're scumreading me for weak reasons, I haven't actually pushed on you or tried to lynch you

I've said who I think is scummy right now and that's tokzic, charu hasn't said anything yet to convince me from earlier either

I feel like sunfan said he was going to look at charus behavior about nitpicking my posts but never did, it kind of feels like he's almost watching

Blind is also still irrelevant and I'm going to read xels post now