TWG XXIX Crack Dens and Avenging Angels

[Tps222]

Re: TWG XXIX Crack Dens and Avenging Angels

Wow, 10, wtf, got back from track and passed out for 5 hours. I'm the interrigator people. Come to me who needs to come to me, but I assume that we need a confirmation waiting period of such.

[talisman]

Re: TWG XXIX Crack Dens and Avenging Angels

that means there would be occasions where a wolf accidentally lynch another wolf and not knowing it.

presumably this would never happen if the master wolf was keeping up with the thread somewhat.

It would be harder for us humans to figure out who is who since they can't (and won't) relate to each other...

Exactly, which is why this game should be interesting (as it's stacked in the wolves' favor somewhat).

regarding tps: yeah a waiting period is probably in order. At least wait until everyone has posted before you go to him (you equaling the angel) or before you (everyone else) send him suggestions for questions.

[iggymatrixcounter]

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So far after reading the thread, I find minineo's "rant" about tass useless and distracting but good to get it out of the way.

Kilga's first post is a perfect human confirmation with a fish bandwagon.

And I believe tps, no way a wolf would fake since things have been made to favor them more so they need not risk anything.

As far as anything else... nothing.

[talisman]

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So another thing to consider: nforcer. (And this is one time it might be somewhat worthwhile to discuss the night one kill).

Unless I'm mistaken, the angel is a pretty weak blue, as guarding doesn't guarantee an extra day at all, but just displaces the kill. And early on, as odds would have it, such a displaced kill is fairly unlikely to strike a wolf.

So then, even if nforcer was very active last game, why him and not me, fish, tass, hans, kilga, guido, blah, etc? even if one of that pool were guarded and attacked (low probability as it is), the kill is still probably going to be a human, so might as well attack one of that pool anyway.

Yet this didn't occur. so, possibilities:

a) a majority of the wolves are among this pool
b) the wolves didn't think this through enough to realize the above
c) one or more of the wolves is one of the players that the angel would likely select to kill (probably newer players, at this point) and they didn't want to chance it.

thoughts?

[HansSky]

Re: TWG XXIX Crack Dens and Avenging Angels

Because we all know that Kilga couldn't have planted that there on purpose.

[MiniNeo]

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Tails, if the masterwolf wants to intervene when a wolf is putting another wolf in danger - How? Doing so immediatly exposes the other wolf and thus goes back to wolf knowing who each other are. Unless it is just the masterwolf saving the wolf by himself which will led to other people's suspicion.

[MiniNeo]

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PS what does an angel do exactly? >_> Guard a person, and if the guard is successful, the person he chooses will be killed instead of the guarded? Can an angel choose not to kill anyone at all?

[talisman]

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uh, the master would just be like "dude don't vote for that guy winkwink" or something like that... or something more subtle, I dunno. It wouldn't be that hard.

[Kilgamayan]

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Because we all know that Kilga couldn't have planted that there on purpose.

But of course.

[MiniNeo]

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uh, the master would just be like "dude don't vote for that guy winkwink" or something like that... or something more subtle, I dunno. It wouldn't be that hard.

Wolf # 1 - *verge of being killed*
Wolf # 2 - Omg, I am going to vote him. *votes*
MW - dude don't vote for that guy winkwink
Wolf # 2 - Hmm... MW told me not to vote them... ZOMG

Basically what I stated in 2nd last post, but in DRAMA! =D

[talisman]

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well yes, such a situation could occur... but only if the mw were incredibly sidetracked and wasn't checking in with the other wolves and asking them about who they were thinking about voting and whatnot. but whatever... this is kind of pointless to debate.

and as for your angel question, I don't think he/she can choose not to kill, pretty sure that comes with the job.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Re: TWG XXIX Crack Dens and Avenging Angels

So another thing to consider: nforcer. (And this is one time it might be somewhat worthwhile to discuss the night one kill).

Unless I'm mistaken, the angel is a pretty weak blue, as guarding doesn't guarantee an extra day at all, but just displaces the kill. And early on, as odds would have it, such a displaced kill is fairly unlikely to strike a wolf.

So then, even if nforcer was very active last game, why him and not me, fish, tass, hans, kilga, guido, blah, etc? even if one of that pool were guarded and attacked (low probability as it is), the kill is still probably going to be a human, so might as well attack one of that pool anyway.

Yet this didn't occur. so, possibilities:

a) a majority of the wolves are among this pool
b) the wolves didn't think this through enough to realize the above
c) one or more of the wolves is one of the players that the angel would likely select to kill (probably newer players, at this point) and they didn't want to chance it.

thoughts?

This abc list pretty much could include anyone. But I did think, "Hey why didn't they just go for the top dog instead of nforcer?"

I want to say it's A just because the number of players that wouldn't realize it would be few so that would make B less likely. (minineo for one because he asks what the angel does for an example.)

Course C is good too. You have to weigh whether or not the wolves would be willing to make the sacrifice or not though.

Can I phone a friend on this one? XD

I'm going with A though as most likely, even though you could argue every one of those...... final answer.

[GuidoHunter]

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talisman, I don't think the Angel will be picking targets for the first few nights. The probability of hurting us is too great. So, we can gain a day, and when there's suspicion on others start smiting.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Tasselfoot]

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Guido... as was already stated... the angel doesn't have a choice. they HAVE to kill someone in place of the wolf kill (right?).

But... I was discussing this with TPS... the angel is more powerful than you n00bs are giving credit for.

Scenario: Some hawt sexy angel thinks that I'm a good wolf choice and halo's my ass. Now... when the wolves go to kill me, they are choosing from a pool of 13 humans/blues. 0% of getting a wolf during the night. BUT... angel's kill... now, not only do the wolves not get their choice of kill, but the angel has a shot (y/[x-3]%, where x is the number of players left in the game, and y is the number of wolves) of killing a wolf. So, yea... we won't gain a day. But we won't LOSE a day either (such as with a normal bookie/vigi kill). So, I'm all for someone getting guarded.

PS - the x-3 is for tps, the angel, and the person guarded. safe to assume none of that group would be targeted. could also be x-2 if tps IS the guarded.

Make sense my unaware n00blets?

[talisman]

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I was under the assumption that they had to pick...

from host thread:

angel - A lot like the guardian mixed with a bookie. Every night the angel chooses who he/she wants to protect (same as guard) and who he/she wants to smite. On a successful protection, the person he/she chose to smite will be killed in place of the person he/she protected.

from this thread:

The angel sends his pm with whom he wants to gaurd, and to possibly kill at the same time. If it is successful, you will know there was a successful gaurding, but not who it was.

I think the "possibly" in the second refers not to if they send it in or not but if the person they picked to be guarded is attacked or not, but I could be wrong.