Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

[dore]

Originally Posted by FissionMailed1

Yes, I agree on the subjective factors you described in terms of judging files subjectively, but it still doesn't account for the edge factors such as what a particular judge enjoys for music, or what they think the community would enjoy.

There really isn't much more I can argue, and I can see where you are coming from, but in my opinion judging should be kept as objective (in my perception of objective) as possible. Hopefully what I'm getting at is more understood though, even though it most likely won't impact how judging is performed.

This might as well be my last post on this, I feel that I explained my position thoroughly enough.

To a certain extent, a judge must be subjective, because if you start having too many objective rules you start to include obviously useless file as acceptable. To explain that, I refer to my two criteria for judging: 1) What did the author intend, and 2) How well did they execute their intentions. The majority of scoring comes from the second, more objective bubble, but you have to include the first otherwise somebody could submit a chart with the same bleep bloop 16th run for 40 minutes with the same stream copied over and over and it would be objectively acceptable. At the same time, a judge can't just reject a song because they don't like it, but there still has to be the ability to make the judgment that a song is unacceptable for the game. I'm might give a song that intrigues me a little benefit of the doubt on certain things over a boring, generic piece of crap song, but I'm not going to reject that song over its music unless the chart fails to execute the stepartist's intentions (assuming the stepartist isn't trolling ).

For example, I submitted a song (once under Tass, once under the new system) that was 4 seconds long and about vaginas that got rejected heartily because it was deemed not worthy of being in the game. The chart/song are a complete joke, and so I'm fine with the judges' decision on that one. Subjectivity allows you to filter out troll submissions, and while some troll submissions are worthwhile, the judges are there to decide that. I'm not familiar with the song that sparked this debate, so I'm assuming it's pretty trolly judging by the fFr DrAmAz going on because of it

[FissionMailed1]

Originally Posted by dore

I'm not familiar with the song that sparked this debate, so I'm assuming it's pretty trolly judging by the fFr DrAmAz going on because of it

While it might not be everybody's cup of tea, it certainly isn't a troll submission. There is musical merits to it, even if it is a bit out there to some.

[SKG_Scintill]

you so old, I stepped vah-jay-jay years ago for the DF engine

also, you gotta draw a line somewhere, otherwise people gonna step and send in Ionisation by Varèse.

[AlexDest]

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0

damn this thread is mad gay

[dore]

Originally Posted by FissionMailed1

While it might not be everybody's cup of tea, it certainly isn't a troll submission. There is musical merits to it, even if it is a bit out there to some.

ok yeah that's pretty bad but not instareject bad

[SKG_Scintill]

Oh, since you guys like it specified: Over the Bridge is by Takajii

[iironiic]

Just step whatever you want. Who cares about the ratings you get from the judges. If it was rejected because of song choice, then derrrrpp... Life's unfair. I have been constantly told that piano files are not suitable for FFR, but who's to tell me what to step. It's that simple guys.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Who says piano files aren't suitable left for FFR lol

[Coolboyrulez0]

can i step sharpnel loli breaks (nightcore remix) pls

[mrpreggers]

Originally Posted by iironiic

I have been constantly told that piano files are not suitable for FFR

what?!

[popsicle_3000]

i wouldn't want to see robotomy in ffr :/

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Who says piano files aren't suitable left for FFR lol

Probably if it's something like A Sloth's Song (it was a submission made in a previous batch and I think it had 2-3 seconds between each quarter note). Otherwise there is nothing wrong with piano songs.

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by popsicle_3000

i wouldn't want to see robotomy in ffr :/

alot of top tier players would like to see robotomy in game because it's challenging and something no one has done before

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Robotomy can stay away from FFR, shit song and shit chart (at least the one I played on SM was, highly doubt touching it up was going to make it any better)

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by Choofers

because it's challenging

Just want to respond to this part of your post: I'd rather play easier charts than many harder charts (FGO+) that are currently in game. I don't agree with the "challenging" reasoning if it's going to be a chart that most players won't like.

[t-rogdor]

Originally Posted by t-rogdor

the thing about robotomy is that it's basically the penultimate "Too Deep For You" file

which to be totally honest considering we're talking about a computer game where you see colorful notes and hit your keyboard like a fucking ape to weird music isn't something i should say, this is a goddamn game

^^^^^^^^^^^reminder^^^^^^^^^^^

objectively speaking it's on sync and the notes are accurate
subjectively speaking it's whatever you want it to be who cares
it was submitted and whoever's judging will judge how they want i guess, even though i'd argue rejecting a file for song choice is pretty bullshit

quit whining before the notes even come the hell out, god
i contributed to the file and i don't even give a shit if it gets in
so
shut up, let's talk about something else or at least talk about this in a way that's productive

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127

Robotomy can stay away from FFR, shit song and shit chart (at least the one I played on SM was, highly doubt touching it up was going to make it any better)

lmao nice one man you sure convinced me with those hot opinions

[04im]

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127

Robotomy can stay away from FFR, shit song and shit chart (at least the one I played on SM was, highly doubt touching it up was going to make it any better)

you've played 73000 games of ffr which consists mostly of bzzzt bang uguu boring rock congratufuckinglations

[Choofers]

yeah I'm just gonna call it quits right here

if robotomy gets in, wonderful
if robotomy doesn't get in, whatever

Nigerians.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Originally Posted by 04im

you've played 73000 games of ffr which consists mostly of bzzzt bang uguu boring rock congratufuckinglations

and your point would be.............? Come back if you happen to find one, because the one above was a wasted attempt.

Originally Posted by Choofers

lmao nice one man you sure convinced me with those hot opinions

Yes, because the whole goal of my post was trying to convince you to pull robotomy from the batch or something along those lines, you sure nailed it. Dont see why you would be wasting your time on a flash game site with that incredible amount of intelligence you possess. You have a gift my friend.