TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I gave a Null town-lean to FreezinIce because of the attempt of caring about the game in general and trying to challenge "who's in control" of the game.

The only problem with FreezinIce is that I'm still waiting for meaningful content that is not "Gradiant vs FreezinIce" oriented.

If in the end there's nothing substantial, well, rip.

Haku's probably town

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Curious what post that was.
I'm also seeing another sudden change in attitude towards me, no longer extremely 'better than you' and snarky. I'm assuming it's because you realize I'm never going to think of you as less scummy if you continue to act that way for responses?

A combination of that and the realization that further continuation down that path wasnt gonna to yield anything productive.

[Hakulyte]

btw, Shadow's read list also have something that greatly differ from mine:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

1. inHard (inDheart) - Most likely Town

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

1. inDheart
Wolfish. I thought he was townie, but an ISO of his posts led me to the realization that aside from early speculation about Charu (including a shitty VT one), and posts about sweaters (birds), and shitposts, his only real posts were various jumps on the freezin wagon, and speculations about Haku's defensiveness. While he normally strikes me as a very independent player, he looks like he's just playing to shitpost until real shit happens react and play off of other people's thoughts. On re-reading, he jumped to the top of my list of suspicious players. I'm not liking his game at all right now.

Since you're here inDheart, maybe you have more input about this.

I don't think staying in background is alignment-indicative much, while it's true you shitposted a little, you looked very natural to me this game in general.

I personally didn't see anything different from your previous games where you rolled town so, I've thrown you in my town pile as well here.

[FreezinIce]

I guess I should punctuate my previous post with an unvote

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Since you're here inDheart, maybe you have more input about this.

just got home, yeah i'd seen that

taking a look at shado anyway; my hot take is he's done a lot of following rather than leading, like he's willing to push along other battles but not to be part of his own so much. for me that behavior trends more sociopathic, but what's throwing me off is i don't have a good bead on whether this is usually what he does in longer games.

[inDheart]

also, haku asking me that question is more of the haku i like to see, but my previous observation applies lol

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by inDheart

just got home, yeah i'd seen that

taking a look at shado anyway; my hot take is he's done a lot of following rather than leading, like he's willing to push along other battles but not to be part of his own so much. for me that behavior trends more sociopathic, but what's throwing me off is i don't have a good bead on whether this is usually what he does in longer games.

LMAO
That actually sounds familiar, inDheart. Almost like you took my exact argument against you and tried to flip it. Want an example of me starting a battle? My read on you.

Not even gonna touch the sociopathic part or whether this is usually what I do, because your premise is totally flawed. Get wrecked, son.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

LMAO
That actually sounds familiar, inDheart. Almost like you took my exact argument against you and tried to flip it. Want an example of me starting a battle? My read on you.

Not even gonna touch the sociopathic part or whether this is usually what I do, because your premise is totally flawed. Get wrecked, son.

then talk to me about why your argument against freez is an ill-founded attempt at pushing a narrative, which he's debunked, and mine is supposedly sheeping your shit

talk to me about why when you share a thought with someone else hours later it's a "mindmeld" and when we wind up thinking the same way i'm your copycat

[inDheart]

not to mention your push on freez is also cribbed from gradiant's initial resistance

[inDheart]

when i've seen you push in turbos, you're dead wrong, so good to see nothing's changed

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

My take on it however was that I bought into the fact that he might've misjudged the angle of his attack on me and realized half way through that his arguments were not as solid as he thought. So he cut his loases and backed off his push, something I'm not going to condemn him for doing. (Obviously this isn't always going to be the case but like I said before at the time I judged the alternative situation not worth pursuing.) If theres something you still want explained let me know and I'll try to do so.

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Shado, does this pretty much sum up what you backed off, or was it something else?

Wow, this is actually funny to me, Freezin. No, Gradiant, that's not why I backed off at all. Like I said earlier, I was pushing on him for pressure to test his reaction because I saw a very bad progression of "logic" in his posts, in the initial interaction with you. I highlighted that progression (attacking you for attacking Haku, backing off and going on the defensive when you push him back about it, then joining in on being critical/suspicious of Haku, when he was just attacking you for doing the same thing) to check out his response, because I wasn't too suspicious of him going in. I even voted him as a further push to try to get a clear, unfiltered response to being pushed, and the the tone of his responses made me think he was genuinely a town who didn't intend to come off the way he came off. He kept insisting he wasn't suspicious of you at all, and hence it wasn't "backing off", which I still refuse to believe and made a note of in thread and out. I then unvoted because I had gotten what I came for (his reaction, which seemed towny). I didn't want to push further than that on someone who, at that time, seemed towny to me, because he had already responded to the basis for my vote, and anything further in that vein would lead to groundless mudslinging with no actual supporting evidence that hadn't already been covered.

This is my third time explaining the same event, FreezinIce. I somehow doubt you didn't bother reading either of the other two posts and I doubt further that you, even for a minute, sincerely believed that I had backed off because I wanted to "cut my losses". It's crazy, but the more you try to reach for defenses, the scummier you seem.

[inDheart]

"I saw a very bad progression" makes me think you actually believe your own shit logic you thought freez was following

freez's reaction slaughtered you, son, even if the rest of his game hasn't been quite there

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Wow, this is actually funny to me, Freezin. No, Gradiant, that's not why I backed off at all. Like I said earlier, I was pushing on him for pressure to test his reaction because I saw a very bad progression of "logic" in his posts, in the initial interaction with you. I highlighted that progression (attacking you for attacking Haku, backing off and going on the defensive when you push him back about it, then joining in on being critical/suspicious of Haku, when he was just attacking you for doing the same thing) to check out his response, because I wasn't too suspicious of him going in. I even voted him as a further push to try to get a clear, unfiltered response to being pushed, and the the tone of his responses made me think he was genuinely a town who didn't intend to come off the way he came off. He kept insisting he wasn't suspicious of you at all, and hence it wasn't "backing off", which I still refuse to believe and made a note of in thread and out. I then unvoted because I had gotten what I came for (his reaction, which seemed towny). I didn't want to push further than that on someone who, at that time, seemed towny to me, because he had already responded to the basis for my vote, and anything further in that vein would lead to groundless mudslinging with no actual supporting evidence that hadn't already been covered.

This is my third time explaining the same event, FreezinIce. I somehow doubt you didn't bother reading either of the other two posts and I doubt further that you, even for a minute, sincerely believed that I had backed off because I wanted to "cut my losses". It's crazy, but the more you try to reach for defenses, the scummier you seem.

Sorry but I didn't see that implied when you quoted my entire post and said "fair enough, backing off". This version of events seems alot more natural and believablet as the train of thought you took though. Sorry for passing off something false as your reasoning, but that's why I recommended that Gradiant question you directly because I didn't fully trust my recollection of the events and I couldn't go back to check then in the timeframe I was posting from. On a related note, no more posting from my phone, its impacting my quality of play too much. I'm going to go back and reread your pays and if I have anything to add I will

[FreezinIce]

So many typos and mistranslations. Screw phone posting seriously

[inDheart]

also, regardless of what conversations happen here, i need to set myself a deadline of 1am server so i actually get up in the morning; when that happens i can contend with whatever's here

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by inDheart

then talk to me about why your argument against freez is an ill-founded attempt at pushing a narrative, which he's debunked, and mine is supposedly sheeping your shit

talk to me about why when you share a thought with someone else hours later it's a "mindmeld" and when we wind up thinking the same way i'm your copycat

-sigh-
Okay, when someone accuses you of being wolfish for x reason, and your response is calling them suspicious and then citing the same exact reason, it's not called a mindmeld, it's called omgus. It's not a mindmeld because the two of you are NOT thinking the same thing at all. You're thinking opposite things. Proof being that only one of you are right.

Secondly, FreezinIce didn't debunk shit. He's been on the defensive all game, which he himself has noted, so much so that he "hasn't been scumhunting at all" because he got caught up in the argument.

Finally, can you see why your response to my read on you is only highlighting your scumminess? I made a deduction based on an ISO of your post, and your response has been garbage. Oh. My. God. You. Suck. Maybe actually put some damned effort into the game before trying to come at me with that weak shit..

[ShadoWolfe]

Unvote.

[ShadoWolfe]

Also, I shared exactly why I thought your game was shit so far, and why and when you were sheeping and when you were shitposting and when you weren't. Your response accusing me of sheeping other people all game included none of the above, contradicts itself because of the originality of my accusation against you, and is further invalidated by the entirety of my post history. Go ahead, do an ISO. My reads list alone crushes your argument. I don't follow shephards, I am one.

[ShadoWolfe]

inDheart
Contemplated this, still don't see anyone scummier.
Bye, Felicia.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Also, I shared exactly why I thought your game was shit so far, and why and when you were sheeping and when you were shitposting and when you weren't. Your response accusing me of sheeping other people all game included none of the above, contradicts itself because of the originality of my accusation against you, and is further invalidated by the entirety of my post history. Go ahead, do an ISO. My reads list alone crushes your argument. I don't follow shephards, I am one.

don't mind if i do, working on it

i'm aware what terms mean, though you're so eager to distract and distort that i will have to put the work in, yes