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Old 01-18-2013, 11:44 PM   #501
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Okay so here's basically my idea if we did implement a D7 into this tournament.

D7 would be cumulative scoring rather than elimination so that it's more a fair shot for all in D7.

There would be D7 exclusive prizes that you could only ever achieve if you reach D7 that way it kind of balances out them getting pushed from D6 so that other D6 players could get D6 prizes and makes it worth their while.

Then finally and this will probably get me lynched lol but, anyone that wins in D6 will automatically be D7 the following official.

Thoughts on this?
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:48 PM   #502
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Dossar: your point is terribly assumptive. There is a level of fun being at the bottom of a division and pushing your way up. I experienced it in the 4th official being in Division 5, and skillboosting ALL the way to 5th place (receiving 4th prize because of Shash). I didn't belong in D5 at the start of the tournament, but goddamn I made the best of it!
Please for the love of god stop using this as an example every time a discussion about D6 stuff happens. Aside from the fact that its annoying because it is coming off as an attention whore about how you had this oh so awesome skill boost and need to be glorified about it constantly, this example does not fit now due to the skill levels of today being completely different compared to back when the 4th official tourn was held.

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But this is unavoidable within all divisions everyone needs to realize..
Only the difference between people getting wrecked in the other divisions and people getting wrecked in D6 is people in D6 are wrecked by the same top people every time a tournament is started while players in the top players in the lower division eventually get bumped once they get better/place like top 5 in a previous tourn. The top players of D6 have nowhere to go so they just continue to sit there at the top and get better while the lower end of D6 completely lose hope in doing decent or even seeing prizes.

I wouldnt mind seeing a D7 just to tighten up the competition in D6 and watch the true top players go at it in D7. Even after being eliminated it was fun watching battles between people like samurai and dossar.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:51 PM   #503
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As a member of the non-elite, I'm all for D7 It's a good way to make the battling of the very best players the centerpiece of each round, rather than suffocating that drama until like Round 6. And it gives more people more chances to win. What's not to love?
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:53 PM   #504
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fine i'm all for a d7, dont make me say wordy stuff

if i see any huge faults in this tourney i'm going to go picket every ffr meetup this year with "kayla is a buttlord"
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:53 PM   #505
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Please for the love of god stop using this as an example every time a discussion about D6 stuff happens. Aside from the fact that its annoying because it is coming off as an attention whore about how you had this oh so awesome skill boost and need to be glorified about it constantly, this example does not fit now due to the skill levels of today being completely different compared to back when the 4th official tourn was held.



Only the difference between people getting wrecked in the other divisions and people getting wrecked in D6 is people in D6 are wrecked by the same top people every time a tournament is started while players in the top players in the lower division eventually get bumped once they get better/place like top 5 in a previous tourn. The top players of D6 have nowhere to go so they just continue to sit there at the top and get better while the lower end of D6 completely lose hope in doing decent or even seeing prizes.

I wouldnt mind seeing a D7 just to tighten up the competition in D6 and watch the true top players go at it in D7. Even after being eliminated it was fun watching battles between people like samurai and dossar.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:53 PM   #506
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I understand the idea of expecting people to skillboost their way to the top of these kinds of tournaments, but really, theres a limit.
If you expect someone who is just recently AAA'ing 75-77's to somehow be able to whip out 85-90 AAA's like it's nobodies business within 4-5 weeks, that is just completely unrealistic.

It's different for other divisions, because if someone who just recently started AAA'ing 65-67's gets put in D5, they stand a reasonable chance of being able to AAA 75's~ within a few weeks if they try hard enough.

It's like asking one person to go from climbing a really tall rock to climbing a small local mountain, and asking another guy to go from climbing a small local mountain to climbing Mt. Everest
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:03 AM   #507
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Default Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

I myself think that there should be another division (d7).. yet there is simply just a lack of d7 skill players. I mean, I agree that the skill gap in d6 is extremely variable. yet, at the same time if you were to divide it into another group, its going to be extremely small. It is honestly a tough call.
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fine i'm all for a d7, dont make me say wordy stuff

if i see any huge faults in this tourney i'm going to go picket every ffr meetup this year with "kayla is a buttlord"
Lol I'm just trying to get an idea of why the top tier wouldn't want a D7 is all. I've been told that they're against it and I am trying to be as fair as possible to all players. I'm hoping that the things I listed would make a D7 more fair and more enticing for the players. In this instance if we do it though they'd be playing the same files as D6 this time around since obviously we weren't going to do a D7 but at the same time that means D6 is still stuck with a really high file for the end as well haha.
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Maybe for the final 3 rounds you give D7 3 different higher level songs rather than have D6 stick with it??
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hey Plan, remember that time where I skillboosted in the 4th official?

No but seriously, I'm bringing it up to illustrate a point -- it's not hard to increase your skill when you possess that kind of potential. It all goes down to optimizing, and spending as much time as you can figuring out how to improve things. Honestly, I could probably nail nearly all of the remaining FGOs I have left if I sat down and isolated them all, haha.
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I was going to say, if you're just going to use the same files D6 would be receiving but segregating the upper tier players to their own division, I'm fine with that.

If it was all 86+ bullshit from like round 2/3 onwards, I'd be a bit pissed since I'm the type of player that tanks hard after a certain point. But there's really nothing I could say considering the overwhelming majority in favor of D7 at this point. Plus D7-exclusive prizes don't sound half bad.

Considering how few players there will be to begin with in D7, I'm hoping that maybe everyone will get something regardless of where they place.
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I honestly wouldn't mind a D7 (even though idk if I have a say in this or not seeing as I'm not participating), but as m0de said, there aren't enough D7 players.
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Maybe for the final 3 rounds you give D7 3 different higher level songs rather than have D6 stick with it??
Nope, if the division is added the songs aren't changing. These tournaments are already a lot of work and changing a lot of things now would be difficult being that it's to start in a few days. I had to scramble for charts as it was to get this going, I had originally planned this being in December. Look at it this way, if a D7 is added the chance increases for people in D6 regardless of the files used.

So if this is done it will be as what I've mentioned. Cumulative for D7, exclusive prizes for them, anyone that wins D6 will be D7 the following tournament and the songs for this one in both D6 and D7 will be the same since it wasn't originally planned. If this is agreeable then I say we should go for it. I do want as fair a shot for everyone, but that includes the top tiered players as well.

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I honestly wouldn't mind a D7 (even though idk if I have a say in this or not seeing as I'm not participating), but as m0de said, there aren't enough D7 players.
Being that there's the lack of players is exactly why I say cumulative scoring. That makes it a battle to the end between the top tier players which I think would be cool to watch.
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In any event, giving D7 all ridiculously hard files would be terrible for the game, haha. The game would get massacred with brutally hard files near the end of the tournament.
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Considering how few players there will be to begin with in D7, I'm hoping that maybe everyone will get something regardless of where they place.
I would definitely want to give something to everyone, I just need to figure out what exactly so you'd all have to bear with me on finding D7 exclusive prizes.
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In any event, giving D7 all ridiculously hard files would be terrible for the game, haha. The game would get massacred with brutally hard files near the end of the tournament.
You act as if it hasn't been already

or have you been absent all the other officials?

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