TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

[ShadoWolfe]

ninja'd hardcore
great
oh well at least it's moving in the right direction

[the sun fan]

I kind of want to call Shado town because of Charu's entrance because like
I guess I'm going to start repeating myself and I want to be funfan this game and not solvefan

I doubt anyone else would kill Subaru last night and I highly, highly doubt it was a roleread and Charu the type of lamer to roleblock and put KP on the same player

[Charu]

If the hider is just what you described, then why would the wolves even have a roleblocker. It sounds like a free kill, lmao.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

The hider MUST hide each night, and will die if they hide behind either the person that the mafia is trying to kill, or either mafia member. The Hider is not informed if/when they are roleblocked.

Quoting this section because it does NOT state both the hider and the person in question dies.

Only that the HIDER will be killed.

[Charu]

So I ask this once more:

Originally Posted by Charu

So uh, I'm glancing at the rules here once again and um... is the role in question act like some sort of body guard where only the hider dies? Or does the hider just die alongside another player if they hid behind a player that was going to die?

Asking because... why on earth would there be a roleblocker in this setup if that otherwise wouldn't be the case?

I mean, it seems pretty clear underlined by host's own explanation in OP, but the term "hider" here is making me confused and I just want clarification.

[Charu]

Wait, you made this setup, thesunfan?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

THIS GAME WILL BE HOSTED BY FFA USING A SETUP THAT I THOUGHT OF. I AM JUST MAKING THE SIGNUPS THREAD.

So it is...

Okay, so you're stating, from your own post in the signup thread:

Originally Posted by the sun fan

The hider MUST hide each night, and will die if they hide behind either the person that the mafia is trying to kill, or either mafia member. The Hider is not informed if/when they are roleblocked.

It doesn't say it here either, only that the "hider" dies.

You're making me confused, so was your "intended" mechanic to be both of them die or what?

[Charu]

I'll take things to be asked during signup for 1000, Alex

[inDheart]

yes both are supposed to die if hider hides behind kill target
the target of a kill dies and there's no protection in the setup really
the hider dies bc their role

[inDheart]

had half a mind to look for potential target softs but ig thats weird
if wolves see that then they can drop 2 people in 1 night
so maybe they were confused or not confident

[Charu]

Alright, I'm thinking even more now what to do if I were a wolf.

Well... I suppose I'd probably kill towny players while not roleblocking at all. At least not until the hider comes out and goes "heheh, I'm the hider and i hid behind X, Y, and Z".

If I fail to get the hider in between Night 2 and 3, then I deserve to lose tbh.

...

Weird gimmick.

[Charu]

Anyways, whatever the case is, if the wolves really did just go straight to Poptart, then that leaves a big question.

"Why?"

thesunfan, you're claiming it's V I N T A G E for me to go for Poptart here. Can you underline why?

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Charu

Anyways, whatever the case is, if the wolves really did just go straight to Poptart, then that leaves a big question.

"Why?"

thesunfan, you're claiming it's V I N T A G E for me to go for Poptart here. Can you underline why?

you often kill people randomly when ur a wolf on n1
and every time I see it, I never get you lynched because everyone on this planet loves you more than they love me

I highly doubt there is anyone else in the game that would kill Subaru last night

[Charu]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

you often kill people randomly when ur a wolf on n1
and every time I see it, I never get you lynched because everyone on this planet loves you more than they love me

I highly doubt there is anyone else in the game that would kill Subaru last night

Hey hey hey

...

I love you 💖

But my ultimate love is somewhere else, sorry.

*cough*

Anyways, I believe I outlined perfectly what I would've done. I would've went for the towniest player, no question. Poptart was not my "towniest" player. It was actually star that was my towniest.

[Charu]

Funnygurl555

Slank cover, hasn't provided much, could be a wolf, but I really don't think she's a wolf based on first phase's emotion.

inDheart

Analytical, moving things around while asking questions for himself. I honestly see nothing wrong with inDheart at a glance so if there is to be a deep wolf, look at his posts hard and see if you can make a case I suppose. Otherwise, keep around and assume they're town because they've only done towny questions this game. None of his posts scream like he's setting up a lynch or anything, he's actively changing his reads.

ShadoWolfe

I really don't know. I'm having trouble parsing his posts and there's really no excuse for me other than I don't know how to read him. He seems to think I'm a town, so that has to mean something, right? The general consesus seems to be that I'm a shady bird, not him though. That's all I really got unfortunately.

XelNya

Hasn't done anything noteworthy this phase. I'm assuming his wolf read is on me or something due to a very recent post. I'd probably vote for them probably the next phase if they don't provide tasty thoughts. I still stand by their bravado first phase makes me think they're town, but that's once again an emotion read at best.

star-crossed

Pretty much the same thing as inDheart with the added flavor that they were the first to really throw a punch during the first phase. I don't think it's a wolf starting something unless she really wanted to spice her wolf game up or something. My towniest read by far.

thesunfan

There's a nagging feeling that maybe he's a wolf because of his... uh... dumb reasoning for me being a wolf? It actually, now that I think about it, reminds me of a game back at Mafia Universe during a hydra in which he attacked my meta or something. I can appreciate him not tryharding, but hey... just throwing that world out there I guess. No idea who'd he be paired with though.

[inDheart]

charu, you can rb+kill the person you think the hider will hide behind for free if you have a good read, with the side effect of keeping them killable if that person is actually the hider

i missed like 3 hours already is this supposed to be smokescreeny

[Charu]

Originally Posted by inDheart

charu, you can rb+kill the person you think the hider will hide behind for free if you have a good read, with the side effect of keeping them killable if that person is actually the hider

i missed like 3 hours already is this supposed to be smokescreeny

Okay, but all that does is make the meta game go back to square 1.

The hider sure as hell isn't going to announce they hid behind someone that died. Why would they?

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Charu

Okay, but all that does is make the meta game go back to square 1.

The hider sure as hell isn't going to announce they hid behind someone that died. Why would they?

well in that scenario the hider would be dead

but u can try to leave a name for people to look back on the following day w/ night results in hand. i tried to do that w sunfans name

[Charu]

I think I actually "get" the roleblocker role now, but like...............................................................................

9/10 times why would you even if the hider works exactly like what thesunfan is describing, lol

I'd eat the bullet if hider accumulates too many confirms.

[star-crossed]

If we assume that hiding behind the nightkill kills both the original target and the hider, the only possible scenarios are:
- Wolves tried to kill Subaru and he hid behind a wolf
- Wolves blocked and killed Subaru
- Wolves blocked their own kill and Subaru hid behind a wolf (meme option)

Correct me if I am wrong