Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two - COMPLETED - Page 21

**Tasselfoot** · 05-10-2008, 06:54 AM

i got about 4 1/2 hours of sleep... up, and then will go back to bed.

**devonin** · 05-10-2008, 06:59 AM

Round up, passing out. Goodnight.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-10-2008, 07:16 AM

finished round 9. confused by bonus.

edit: damn this. going back to bed.

Fractal_Monkey · 05-10-2008, 08:08 AM

2nd for Round 9, I guess.

3rd probably goes to whoever wakes up first.

jonathanasdf · 05-10-2008, 08:54 AM

third? hopefully?

The mental is hard... I don't know if it has to do with words or numbers lol

**devonin** · 05-10-2008, 04:00 PM

Nobody has solved the bonus yet. You bastards and your breaking of my puzzles by coming up with things I didn't think of. The answer to the bonus puzzle is, like the other three inner numbers, a whole number, not a fraction or decimal of any kind.

**devonin** · 05-10-2008, 08:17 PM

Okay, seems like people are still having some big problems with the bonus puzzle. To the point where I probably should have inverted which one was the round, and which was the bonus.

Anyway, I'm going to give you a more in depth explanation of what's going on.

Okay, the biggest misunderstanding that seems to exist here is that the interior square -only- demarcates which number in the outer square is the -ANSWER-

As in, if you call the outer numbers A, B and C, and the inner number D; then you generate an equality that goes

Some mathematical operations involving A, B and C = D

The interior number is not itself a function of any of the operations, solely the result, and is a whole number.

Also, the purpose of the "and why?" is that you need to establish a -SINGLE- set of operations that you can apply to all 4 sets of three exterior numbers to arrive at their corresponding interior number.

Something like (completely wrong): Multiply the three numbers together, divide the result by 100, and subtract 10. You need to be able to apply that single statement to all 4 sets of numbers and have a true statement. So the fact that three of them sum to various round numbers is coincidental because "summing to 30" =/= "summing to 40"

Edit *Sigh* My bad again, I went and gave you the wrong idea with my completely false example of what I was looking for. While that's the kind of "general solution applies to all 4 sets of numbers" that I'm looking for, at no point do you need to introduce numbers that aren't derived from the provided numbers. So if you throw in a "divided by 9" or something like that, you've added in a number that wasn't derived solely from manipulating the numbers provided.

MrRubix · 05-10-2008, 10:26 PM

Got it

jonathanasdf · 05-10-2008, 11:50 PM

... grr i still don't et it

ledwix · 05-10-2008, 11:50 PM

Just donated 240k to devonin, because his tourneys are cool.

Commandersa1 · 05-11-2008, 12:03 AM

I had a pattern that worked for three boxes, but it did not work for the top left one.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-11-2008, 12:13 AM

i think we've all found patterns that work for 3/4. damn devonin... damn.

**smartdude1212** · 05-12-2008, 01:22 AM

are we restricted to +, -, *, and /?

**devonin** · 05-12-2008, 01:31 AM

The correct answer doesn't contain anything other than those four operations, no.

**smartdude1212** · 05-12-2008, 01:46 AM

So I can't do absolute value or square roots or exponents... ****.

I'm having serious trouble making the bottom right square true.

Each number only used once... hmmm

MrRubix · 05-12-2008, 02:14 AM

Hehe smartdude's member length is only 2.66 inches

jonathanasdf · 05-12-2008, 08:59 AM

Omfgzors Devon You're Late By 2 Seconds Or Something

**devonin** · 05-12-2008, 09:00 AM

Round 10 is up, probably going to go to roughly midnight EST on say...thursday for people to submit other scores and things.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-12-2008, 09:24 AM

solved and PM submitted.

Fractal_Monkey · 05-12-2008, 09:25 AM

I think I've got it. The profile name I got exists according to the PM system, so I think that's a good sign.

EDIT: For the song component, do we have to pass the song?

05-10-2008, 06:54 AM	#401
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two i got about 4 1/2 hours of sleep... up, and then will go back to bed. __________________ RIP

05-10-2008, 06:59 AM	#402
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Round up, passing out. Goodnight.

05-10-2008, 07:16 AM	#403
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two finished round 9. confused by bonus. edit: damn this. going back to bed. __________________ RIP Last edited by Tasselfoot; 05-10-2008 at 07:24 AM..

05-10-2008, 08:08 AM	#404
Fractal_Monkey FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 464	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two 2nd for Round 9, I guess. 3rd probably goes to whoever wakes up first.

05-10-2008, 08:54 AM	#405
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two third? hopefully? The mental is hard... I don't know if it has to do with words or numbers lol __________________ This section intentionally blank.

05-10-2008, 04:00 PM	#406
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Nobody has solved the bonus yet. You bastards and your breaking of my puzzles by coming up with things I didn't think of. The answer to the bonus puzzle is, like the other three inner numbers, a whole number, not a fraction or decimal of any kind.

05-10-2008, 08:17 PM	#407
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Okay, seems like people are still having some big problems with the bonus puzzle. To the point where I probably should have inverted which one was the round, and which was the bonus. Anyway, I'm going to give you a more in depth explanation of what's going on. Okay, the biggest misunderstanding that seems to exist here is that the interior square -only- demarcates which number in the outer square is the -ANSWER- As in, if you call the outer numbers A, B and C, and the inner number D; then you generate an equality that goes Some mathematical operations involving A, B and C = D The interior number is not itself a function of any of the operations, solely the result, and is a whole number. Also, the purpose of the "and why?" is that you need to establish a -SINGLE- set of operations that you can apply to all 4 sets of three exterior numbers to arrive at their corresponding interior number. Something like (completely wrong): Multiply the three numbers together, divide the result by 100, and subtract 10. You need to be able to apply that single statement to all 4 sets of numbers and have a true statement. So the fact that three of them sum to various round numbers is coincidental because "summing to 30" =/= "summing to 40" Edit Sigh My bad again, I went and gave you the wrong idea with my completely false example of what I was looking for. While that's the kind of "general solution applies to all 4 sets of numbers" that I'm looking for, at no point do you need to introduce numbers that aren't derived from the provided numbers. So if you throw in a "divided by 9" or something like that, you've added in a number that wasn't derived solely from manipulating the numbers provided. Last edited by devonin; 05-11-2008 at 12:59 PM..

05-10-2008, 10:26 PM	#408
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Got it __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

05-10-2008, 11:50 PM	#409
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two ... grr i still don't et it __________________ This section intentionally blank.

05-10-2008, 11:50 PM	#410
ledwix Giant Pi Operator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Age: 33 Posts: 2,878	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Just donated 240k to devonin, because his tourneys are cool.

05-11-2008, 12:03 AM	#411
Commandersa1 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,344	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two I had a pattern that worked for three boxes, but it did not work for the top left one. __________________

05-11-2008, 12:13 AM	#412
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two i think we've all found patterns that work for 3/4. damn devonin... damn. __________________ RIP

05-12-2008, 01:22 AM	#413
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 6,687	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two are we restricted to +, -, *, and /?

05-12-2008, 01:31 AM	#414
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two The correct answer doesn't contain anything other than those four operations, no.

05-12-2008, 01:46 AM	#415
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 6,687	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two So I can't do absolute value or square roots or exponents... ****. I'm having serious trouble making the bottom right square true. Each number only used once... hmmm

05-12-2008, 02:14 AM	#416
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Hehe smartdude's member length is only 2.66 inches __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

05-12-2008, 08:59 AM	#417
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Omfgzors Devon You're Late By 2 Seconds Or Something __________________ This section intentionally blank.

05-12-2008, 09:00 AM	#418
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Round 10 is up, probably going to go to roughly midnight EST on say...thursday for people to submit other scores and things.

05-12-2008, 09:24 AM	#419
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two solved and PM submitted. __________________ RIP

05-12-2008, 09:25 AM	#420
Fractal_Monkey FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 464	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two I think I've got it. The profile name I got exists according to the PM system, so I think that's a good sign. EDIT: For the song component, do we have to pass the song? Last edited by Fractal_Monkey; 05-12-2008 at 09:30 AM..

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