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Old 05-27-2012, 02:09 AM   #21
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I haven't watched the video yet (can't on my iPod) but I can kind of see what it consists of.

It reminds me of the good ol' days when a king would build his wife a castle, or pyramid, or Taj Mahal; even if the gesture was genuine, it might feel a bit more materialistic. The kind of love that is fuelled with materialism, being bought lots of things as a gesture, is nothing really new. To me it feels like the actions don't justify the emotions in a way they should. Like, if a pyramid appeared of my lawn, with a ring, I'd think "Damn. All you really needed to do was tell me how you feel LoL". Not that I would put them down, it just implies desperation when someone doesn't exactly have a way with words.

...why is everything a debate thread.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:11 AM   #22
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Would you rather have an actual discussion or see a thread with 20 pages of people posting practically the same thing with little to no verbal engagement?
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:20 AM   #23
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:48 AM   #24
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Don't get me wrong- I enjoy debating, sometimes it's just tiresome. And I would rather have an open topic with either choice :s

To be on topic again-- With stuff like this, I try not to become too engaged (I guess that's a pun) in people's actions like this. Whatever the case was, it made her happy, and married. We don't have to let it set the bar or anything. People need to have the mentality of suiting needs based on their own preferences, not by what they have been told they need (blindly, that is. Really depends on the situation; sometimes you don't know what you want until you are shown it. BUT I mean like, forcing standards)
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:51 AM   #25
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the way i see this is that you love someone so much that a simple proposal wouldnt suffice. so you go above and beyond for that person. frankly though i love a chick a lot but i wouldnt go that far because it would feel to gimmick-y and fake for me
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:04 AM   #26
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Even though I was bashing the proposal, I agree with Spenner that everyone has different needs. Not every relationship is destined to be something I'd read a book (or play a game) about. Some people are just not interesting, and that's fine.

But calling this a new standard isn't fine imo :P Nevar 4get: The guy who proposed by hacking Chrono Trigger.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:35 AM   #27
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:18 AM   #28
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I haven't watched the video yet because I'm on my phone and I don't want to wait 10 hours for a video to load; but I will say a creative, well-thought proposal represents the amount of care/love the proposer has for the proposee. Anyone can do the cliche "take your date to a fancy restraunt and propose there", but a creative and thought out proposal shows that the person loves the other person enough to think of and plan something special. This creative/thought-out proposal doesn't need to be extravagent though. Anyways, if the couple is happy with how the proposal turned out, let them be. Same for everyone, there is no need to set yourself up to some standard, if your potenial partner turns you down simply because of how the proposal was executed, then they are just too shallow anyway. Still though, I expect some degree of effort to be put into a proposal; proposing at a Burger King across the street from your house with a $10 ring you found at a pawn shop yesterday would be slightly frowned upon by me. Anyways, I'm going to stop ranting, because I don't even have the appropriate context to fully understand what is going on.
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But calling this a new standard isn't fine imo :P Nevar 4get: The guy who proposed by hacking Chrono Trigger.
That was a joke
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:13 AM   #30
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I don't see a problem with this. Let people do what they wanna do as long as it's innocent. I thought it was cute.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:56 AM   #31
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There's this little thing called romance. People wanting to court their partner, sway them off their feet. Some people really want to show their partner how much they love them, because sometimes words alone don't suffice. I thought it was a very sweet way of proposing. It's creative and full of emotion too.
To spenner's post, I don't really see how this is relatable to building a castle or pyramid or whatever, as that was mainly a performance of wealth and power rather than actual courtship. Those were also different times. Maybe building a castle was the genuine way of proposing to someone you truly love back in those days but I don´t see it that way in this day of time.
Now is now and there are no rules or boundaries to proposing someone you truly love. this, to me, was all done out of love and with the help of friends and family who supported the idea. No huge amount of wealth required, Just a genuine and creative way of proposing imo.

edit: I find this equally creative and endearing as Jae's proposal to Katie for example. Jae proposed in a creative way that was never done before, and included elements of emotional value in his proposal.
As long as the emotions are genuine, I don't see a problem with going the extra mile.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:03 AM   #32
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I don't buy the supported by friends and family thing. I've seen way too many real-life examples of friends and family either having horrible judgement about these things, or faking support to avoid confrontation.

Anyway, I don't consider this even close the same level as Jae's proposal. I'm getting way too many hipster showboating vibes from it. I don't disagree that more effort usually means more emotion, but this is nothing but spectacle. It's the kind of act that comes from people who value the appearance of being in love over real loyalty, and it baffles me that people are throwing around words like "special" and "genuine" and implying that turning it down would be shallow even though the whole performance is an orgy of triteness and vanity.

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Old 05-27-2012, 10:13 AM   #33
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For all of those against this way of proposing marriage:

Love is shown in various ways. Just because some couples show it in a different and more overt way than others doesn't mean it's not legit. Some of us are more like peacocks, while some of us are more simple and content with a simple down on one knee proposal in their own privacy.
What i'm trying to get at, is that it doesn't matter how it's done, it's the suggestion behind it. It all comes to the same question: Will you spend the rest of your life with me? I love you that much.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:15 AM   #34
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All the time in my head watching the vid was wondering what if at the end, in front of everyone she said "No."
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:53 AM   #36
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guys move on ,there is always people who hate on legit things. This marriage proposal is amazing and I know any girl would LOVE to have such thing done for them.
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:25 PM   #38
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guys move on ,there is always people who hate on legit things.
Because loaded statements piss me off, I'm gonna stop being tactful about this.

This proposal is a towering mountain of bullshit spewing shit-slides from every crack as a shit-blizzard rages at the peak. It has to be one of the most disingenuous attempts at pretending to share a bond I've ever seen. Even before it started, one glance at the guy made it clearer than an acid lake that I was about to see some hipster ****stick propose to an abysmally vapid doe over a backdrop of fake enthusiasm and the tears of people who aren't gigantic ****ing posers. What I didn't count on was the droning car ad music and poorly choreographed dancing that would've been damn near impossible for a person with twice my patience not to skip over. Gimmicky "look how ****ing adorable and in love we are" viral-by-design fakey feel good trash like this is why marriage these days is considered more of a running joke than a legitimate bond.

That is what I think of this thing.

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Old 05-27-2012, 01:06 PM   #39
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Let's hope the girl(or guy) you're thinking about marrying doesn't watch or read about this stuff!
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I thought this was going to be dumb but I was actually impressed.
My only question is how they kept the cars off that road
by telling people to "stay the **** off the road or I'll kill you, I'm proposing to my girlfriend in da coolest way I can think of"
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