TWG XXIV Postgame - Page 2

**talisman** · 12-8-2005, 10:37 PM

yeah, I actually didn't do too much this game either.... I mean I did for the first day. And then after the big breaks on day two it was kind of like "oh this is academic. I'll just tell the blues what to do and vote off and seer the people I don't know are human.

QreepyBORIS · 12-8-2005, 11:07 PM

I wolfed Nick because I forgot to wolf TPS, mostly. And I really wasn't feeling "up" to winning the game on my own, so I just sort of...you know. Did stuff.

Then I remembered the next day. Half the reason I offed him is because I remembered he was our guess at a blue. The other half is because he bragged that with his craziness, he would never get wolfed...fuck that, man.

Being a wolf, even when you aren't really playing the game, is much more fun than being green. Hot damn.

**talisman** · 12-8-2005, 11:11 PM

When you rebutted my attack on you day four I was kind of like "well, I could prove him wrong, or I could just get him lynched."

blahblah18 · 12-9-2005, 01:51 AM

man I knew everything.. you can ask for this for confrimation. When I was killed I knew that EB and TPS were the 2 blues, as I told them before killed. I knew in advance that i was going to be seered so when Talisman IMed me I purposely listed Qreepy as my #2 suspect since I figured he woudl go with the least notice there. I felt it good. That's aobut it.. sucked roaming failed and talisman was guarded, but the ngiht we roamed i had voted to lynch TPS because i felt there was high enough prob he was a blue, but oh well... c'est la vie

Afrobean · 12-9-2005, 06:28 AM

Dear Talisman,

Please listen to me next time. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Afrobean

PS I still have never been wolfed lolz my plan to look stupid worked perfectly, although I suppose it didn't matter much since I was basically ignored by Talisman.

nforcer06164 · 12-9-2005, 08:07 AM

Sorry for the confusion Day 1, guys. I'm seriously sick of being green. I escaped the "lesser roles" in mead's game as a mason, where working together was truly important. Tass can tell you: I was a special role in a regular game ONCE, as a guardian. Every other one, I was a static green (save mason in mead's). I've never been a wolf, and I'm sick of getting the regular roles. I think I'm going to take a break for a few games so I can work back into a potential green role with a fresh outlook... or maybe I'll host. I've got a new idea I'm developing right now, and while it is green-dominated, it involves a lot more participation and is a bit more hectic than a normal game.

Tps222 · 12-9-2005, 09:05 AM

Sorry for not seering Qreepy.

I saw no harm in coming out to Tass. Not only did I think he was 95% human, I dropped a note with Talisman that if I was wolfed, then Tass is most likely a wolf. Tass would forsee this, and I would obviously be left alive. Though, as I wanted it to work out, I was trusted by Tass, and the alliance trusted him for the most part.

Good call on the Blah thing Afro/Talisman.

Thank you intuition room wise etc

Talisman for MVP mainly because all his plans were teh win.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-9-2005, 09:44 AM

Its just funny that with all of my nonsense about "seer me".... I didn't get seered the whole game.

PS - I am unsure as to whether or not I will continue with the seer me comments... we'll have to wait until next game to see.

HansSky · 12-9-2005, 10:13 AM

Yeah wait to see if you're a wolf next game, right? Right.

Afrobean · 12-9-2005, 10:18 AM

eb said he seer'd me because he thought I was a wolf based on my behavior pregame. Haha.

No offense to Talisman, but he doesn't deserve MVP. He disagreed with my kill blah day 1 plan and he wasn't keen on lynching qreepy until like day 4. Sure, he did a good job as alliance leader, but MVP should go to me for calling the wolves and all that jazz or, more likely, to tps for basically winning the whole game for us by saving someone night 1.

**talisman** · 12-9-2005, 10:40 AM

what the fuck would I have lynched blah day one for? If he was human that would have been A) flat out retarded B) revealed at least two members of the alliance to the wolves and C) gotten rid of a valuable player. Seering him was clearly the correct choice.

Hell, I suspected qreepy before anyone, but my suspicion on him waxed and waned. If you recall, he was who I initially suggested we might seer night two, until the blah prospect came up.

Afrobean · 12-9-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by talisman

what the $*%# would I have lynched blah day one for?

Because I said so haha.

PS blah is not as valuable a player as people give him credit for.

PPS it would not give away anything at all. I had said NOTHING of wanting to lynch blah so I was clearly disconnected from it, and I do not believe tps or eb mentioned blah either. You're forgetting that you could IM any one in the game and say "ok we're vote switching to blah at the last second. If you don't help me with this, you'll be lynched tommorow."

PPPS I don't recall about Qreepy, but I wouldn't be surprised. I just remember going "Qreepy is the last wolf because blah named him as one of the three" I can't think of if you said anything before this or not.

PPPPS it really is because of Tps we won though. Talisman, your position was circumstantial. Anyone in that position would have been able to lead a win (some others would have been able to pull a more efficent win :wink: ), but Tps's saving was truly brilliant and it was that save that gave us this win.

evilbutterfly · 12-9-2005, 10:49 AM

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eb said he seer'd me because he thought I was a wolf based on my behavior pregame. Haha.

Who said that? I thought I seered you because well, I hoped you'd be on my side. Chris+Noah = teh win. :O. I can't remember, though. XD

dAnceguy117 · 12-9-2005, 10:53 AM

After thinking on it some, I've decided to sit out 1-2 more games. Right now, it's finally back to the point where I could be active and play decently again. However, I don't miss the game. I want to make sure I really want to play this game when I start playing again.

Tps222 · 12-9-2005, 10:54 AM

I was glad Afro was saved because I talk to him a lot.

I appreciate the props on the save, but it was fairly obvious.

Talisman came up with some good plans, especially the Jipkin account one. He lead well.

I enjoyed getting the power I wanted every night I needed it, especially the seer with Blah and Guard with Talisman.

**talisman** · 12-9-2005, 11:02 AM

Afro, I stand by seering. I don't play by my gut like that. And blah IS a good player, despite what you think. He's very perceptive and can lie on a dime.

you have to admit though, the jipkin account was brilliant... what's twc policy going to be on that one, btw?

QreepyBORIS · 12-9-2005, 11:07 AM

Having a spare account to do all your work on and having it guaranteed to be blue just makes it a damn lot harder for the wolves. It's not quite fair in my opinion. In TWG, there should be no guarantees (unless you count seering and the psychic; I do not).

Afrobean · 12-9-2005, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tps222

I was glad Afro was saved because I talk to him a lot.

I appreciate the props on the save, but it was fairly obvious.

Talisman came up with some good plans, especially the Jipkin account one. He lead well.

I enjoyed getting the power I wanted every night I needed it, especially the seer with Blah and Guard with Talisman.

I was never saved.

Also, I'll give Talis that the jipkin idea was clever (even if I think it should be outlawed). It's pretty much a moot point though since Talis lived til the end.

PS Blah is a valuable player but no where near valuable enough for you to say "no afro, I'm ignoring your awesome intuition and instead helping to lynch nforcer, even though nforcer is helpful when he tries too." It's silly to automatically make people immune to lynching day 1. This is why we don't lynch wolves on day 1 folks.

EDIT: if we were lynching people based on who was most helpful on day 1, we should have gone after nick, matt, etc. Also, did LD even post at all? I can't think of a single thing he'd said. He would have been a better lynch day 1 if he's not going to post at all.

mattc16 · 12-9-2005, 11:19 AM

Wow. GG humans. Sorry i couldn't be more active, my friend's death has really screwed with my mind over the last two weeks, and I wasn't really as helpful as I hope to be in the next TWG I play. Well played afro and talis especially.

**talisman** · 12-9-2005, 11:23 AM

uh posting alot isn't what makes a person valuable/helpful... blah is smart as fuck, and that's a fact. He can read people and figure shit about better than most. Like me though he tends not to act on it until too late (evidenced in this game by knowing who the blues were but not being able to do anything about it).

I only voted for nforcer because I thought jurs was more human than he was, and putting out a lame vote at that point would have been dumb... I didn't want to see a KiB (and I didn't know rai would switch!).

12-8-2005, 11:07 PM	#22
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	I wolfed Nick because I forgot to wolf TPS, mostly. And I really wasn't feeling "up" to winning the game on my own, so I just sort of...you know. Did stuff. Then I remembered the next day. Half the reason I offed him is because I remembered he was our guess at a blue. The other half is because he bragged that with his craziness, he would never get wolfed...fuck that, man. Being a wolf, even when you aren't really playing the game, is much more fun than being green. Hot damn. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

12-9-2005, 01:51 AM	#24
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	man I knew everything.. you can ask for this for confrimation. When I was killed I knew that EB and TPS were the 2 blues, as I told them before killed. I knew in advance that i was going to be seered so when Talisman IMed me I purposely listed Qreepy as my #2 suspect since I figured he woudl go with the least notice there. I felt it good. That's aobut it.. sucked roaming failed and talisman was guarded, but the ngiht we roamed i had voted to lynch TPS because i felt there was high enough prob he was a blue, but oh well... c'est la vie __________________ but for now... postCount++

12-9-2005, 06:28 AM	#25
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Dear Talisman, Please listen to me next time. Thank you. Sincerely, Afrobean PS I still have never been wolfed lolz my plan to look stupid worked perfectly, although I suppose it didn't matter much since I was basically ignored by Talisman. __________________

12-9-2005, 09:44 AM	#28
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Its just funny that with all of my nonsense about "seer me".... I didn't get seered the whole game. PS - I am unsure as to whether or not I will continue with the seer me comments... we'll have to wait until next game to see. __________________ RIP

12-9-2005, 10:13 AM	#29
HansSky FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ----> Age: 36 Posts: 1,925	Yeah wait to see if you're a wolf next game, right? Right. __________________ hi

12-8-2005, 10:37 PM	#21
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	yeah, I actually didn't do too much this game either.... I mean I did for the first day. And then after the big breaks on day two it was kind of like "oh this is academic. I'll just tell the blues what to do and vote off and seer the people I don't know are human.

12-8-2005, 11:11 PM	#23
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	When you rebutted my attack on you day four I was kind of like "well, I could prove him wrong, or I could just get him lynched."

12-9-2005, 09:05 AM	#27
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 6,167	Sorry for not seering Qreepy. I saw no harm in coming out to Tass. Not only did I think he was 95% human, I dropped a note with Talisman that if I was wolfed, then Tass is most likely a wolf. Tass would forsee this, and I would obviously be left alive. Though, as I wanted it to work out, I was trusted by Tass, and the alliance trusted him for the most part. Good call on the Blah thing Afro/Talisman. Thank you intuition room wise etc Talisman for MVP mainly because all his plans were teh win.

12-9-2005, 10:18 AM	#30
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	eb said he seer'd me because he thought I was a wolf based on my behavior pregame. Haha. No offense to Talisman, but he doesn't deserve MVP. He disagreed with my kill blah day 1 plan and he wasn't keen on lynching qreepy until like day 4. Sure, he did a good job as alliance leader, but MVP should go to me for calling the wolves and all that jazz or, more likely, to tps for basically winning the whole game for us by saving someone night 1. __________________

12-9-2005, 10:40 AM	#31
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	what the fuck would I have lynched blah day one for? If he was human that would have been A) flat out retarded B) revealed at least two members of the alliance to the wolves and C) gotten rid of a valuable player. Seering him was clearly the correct choice. Hell, I suspected qreepy before anyone, but my suspicion on him waxed and waned. If you recall, he was who I initially suggested we might seer night two, until the blah prospect came up.

12-9-2005, 10:53 AM	#34
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,094	After thinking on it some, I've decided to sit out 1-2 more games. Right now, it's finally back to the point where I could be active and play decently again. However, I don't miss the game. I want to make sure I really want to play this game when I start playing again.

12-9-2005, 10:54 AM	#35
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 6,167	I was glad Afro was saved because I talk to him a lot. I appreciate the props on the save, but it was fairly obvious. Talisman came up with some good plans, especially the Jipkin account one. He lead well. I enjoyed getting the power I wanted every night I needed it, especially the seer with Blah and Guard with Talisman.

12-9-2005, 11:02 AM	#36
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Afro, I stand by seering. I don't play by my gut like that. And blah IS a good player, despite what you think. He's very perceptive and can lie on a dime. you have to admit though, the jipkin account was brilliant... what's twc policy going to be on that one, btw?

12-9-2005, 11:07 AM	#37
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	Having a spare account to do all your work on and having it guaranteed to be blue just makes it a damn lot harder for the wolves. It's not quite fair in my opinion. In TWG, there should be no guarantees (unless you count seering and the psychic; I do not). __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

12-9-2005, 11:19 AM	#39
mattc16 FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suffolk, England Age: 34 Posts: 524	Wow. GG humans. Sorry i couldn't be more active, my friend's death has really screwed with my mind over the last two weeks, and I wasn't really as helpful as I hope to be in the next TWG I play. Well played afro and talis especially. __________________ Click for great online poker rakeback offers!

12-9-2005, 11:23 AM	#40
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	uh posting alot isn't what makes a person valuable/helpful... blah is smart as fuck, and that's a fact. He can read people and figure shit about better than most. Like me though he tends not to act on it until too late (evidenced in this game by knowing who the blues were but not being able to do anything about it). I only voted for nforcer because I thought jurs was more human than he was, and putting out a lame vote at that point would have been dumb... I didn't want to see a KiB (and I didn't know rai would switch!).

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