TWG XI - BEMSTYL WOLF TRIBE VICTORY DAY 8 - Page 2

**lightdarkness** · 02-21-2005, 05:26 PM

I have no school XD

But, I have no problem making it 48 hours.

Afrobean · 02-21-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamepro

The two wolf teams are against each other, so that means they can kill wolves on the other team during the night. So there's a chance one of the wolves has already been killed.

This could easily explain why nforcer was taken out. Maybe he was on one wolf team and the other team found out somehow.

Also, I do have school. So I would like an extension of 48 hours.

**Cenright** · 02-21-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Afrobean

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Originally Posted by Gamepro

The two wolf teams are against each other, so that means they can kill wolves on the other team during the night. So there's a chance one of the wolves has already been killed.

This could easily explain why nforcer was taken out. Maybe he was on one wolf team and the other team found out somehow.

Also, I do have school. So I would like an extension of 48 hours.

I think that is stretching it. How could a wolf find out if all of us were in the chat too. Although I only know about his chat time, but I don't think it is that easy to just "figure out he is a wolf".

That just sounds like obfuscating to me.

**aperson** · 02-21-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Afrobean

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Originally Posted by Gamepro

The two wolf teams are against each other, so that means they can kill wolves on the other team during the night. So there's a chance one of the wolves has already been killed.

This could easily explain why nforcer was taken out. Maybe he was on one wolf team and the other team found out somehow.

Also, I do have school. So I would like an extension of 48 hours.

Dude, reductio ad absurdium.

What makes you believe that the wolf teams have discovered each other pre-game?

That would have to be a slip-up of epic proportions for the wolf teams to discover each other's identities before the night's over. I mean, how many times have humans figured out who the wolves were before the night was over? About zero.

Explain your reasoning, I'm very suspicious of what you just said.

Afrobean · 02-21-2005, 06:29 PM

There could have been private IMs that gave away his wolfishness. I believe it was jTWG2 when Freak had a friend pegged as a wolf before night 1 even, because his friend acted that wolfy on AIM.

**Rebirth0** · 02-21-2005, 06:32 PM

I have nothing to back up that theory, It was just a possibility.

**aperson** · 02-21-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Afrobean

There could have been private IMs that gave away his wolfishness. I believe it was jTWG2 when Freak had a friend pegged as a wolf before night 1 even, because his friend acted that wolfy on AIM.

This is blind speculation. Reasoning like this is only going to hurt us and send vague suspicions at best, the kind of stuff we don't need if we want any chance of pegging a wolf.

I think you're diverting from possible real reasons nforcer was killed: There was a conversation between him, TPS, and some other people that I unfortunately don't have logged (I'd like someone to come in and bring that log and explain the situation). He was also talking about who was and wasn't in chat today today to raise possible suspicions and then was magically wolfed....

I know you are aware of the latter actions and I think you are aware of the former, both of these create much sounder arguments (even though they're still shaky) than what you're saying now, so why did you create your first argument?

I can't see you, for any sake of logic, saying what you did from a human perspective.

Afrobean · 02-21-2005, 06:52 PM

I was just elaborating on Gamepro's idea. I think it's a good idea for all possibilities to be presented, even if they seem implausible at first.

As for the convo involving TPS and nforcer: I was unaware of this. I can look through what I have logged though. Maybe I can find it.

Afrobean · 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM

I just looked through what I have logged and I didn't see any conversing between TPS and nforcer. I do however have a nice conversation about KoL and a nice one about that stupid flash game saved. That chat would not stay on topic for anything before.

evilbutterfly · 02-21-2005, 07:19 PM

I brought this up in the chat, but I figured I'd post it, too.

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Originally Posted by nforcer06164

Crap. Well, good luck to everyone. Remember what we've talked about in the chats, and, um, don't screw up.

EDIT: That'll be the last time I act dumb in the chats. That obviously didn't work.

That thing he said in his edit. I'm not sure if it's hinting at either being human or wolf, but it seems kinda shady.

**aperson** · 02-21-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

I brought this up in the chat, but I figured I'd post it, too.

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Originally Posted by nforcer06164

Crap. Well, good luck to everyone. Remember what we've talked about in the chats, and, um, don't screw up.

EDIT: That'll be the last time I act dumb in the chats. That obviously didn't work.

That thing he said in his edit. I'm not sure if it's hinting at either being human or wolf, but it seems kinda shady.

Well look at the linguistics of it. "That obviously didn't work" implies that acting stupid is a facade, and, characteristically wolves are the ones who need something to hide behind. I think you're justified in being suspicious, but it is in no way condemning evidence.

**Tasselfoot** · 02-21-2005, 07:26 PM

On the other hand aperson, it could just mean that he was attempting to act dumb to NOT get killed early, be him green, blue, or red.

With that said, what are Blah/Kilga's feelings about his death post? Too much info?

I can't stress enough how death posts may contain ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME. Failure to comply with this WILL get you a 1-game ban, and may result in the council deciding to ban death messages altogether.

**Kilgamayan** · 02-21-2005, 09:31 PM

I think he was saying he was acting dumb in the chat because he wanted to look like someone who wasn't particularly useful to the human cause, and thus was not a good choice for a wolfing.

I know that if I was presented with any possibility of doing something that could extend my life span, I would try it no matter what role I was playing.

But then, that's me and not nforcer - everyone knows that my typical goal is to make sure I stay alive above everyone else.

**Tasselfoot** · 02-22-2005, 10:15 AM

Hmm. No posts in 14 hours. Guess I have to spark some more talking.

Kenzya

Clearly this is obvious logical process, but nforcer, kenzya, and neon are all friends IRL. This vote could have gone to Neon for the exact same reasoning. It is likely that someone is framing those 2, but, I want people to start talking. Kenzya and Neon have both been very quiet. Perhaps this will get them talking. I'm sure it will get others to voice opinions as well.

eyespewgreekfire · 02-22-2005, 11:10 AM

Sorry I havent posted yet, well I guess Ill fix that now

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At this point, I sorta see aperson as a bit fishy by placing blame on enforcer so quickly.
I think afro is just being a nub with this whole wolfing of a wolf business also. As of now, Tass is the only person with real logic. Id like to see what kenzya says in response.

**lightdarkness** · 02-22-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by eyespewgreekfire

Sorry I havent posted yet, well I guess Ill fix that now

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At this point, I sorta see aperson as a bit fishy by placing blame on enforcer so quickly.
I think afro is just being a nub with this whole wolfing of a wolf business also. As of now, Tass is the only person with real logic. Id like to see what kenzya says in response.

Nforcer is dead....

**Tasselfoot** · 02-22-2005, 12:02 PM

And, afro could be dead on... wolves from 1 team can wolf the wolves from the other team. You're the one who seems a but off the nub eyespew... although i'm willing to attribute it to not paying attention or misunderstanding.

mead1 · 02-22-2005, 12:03 PM

I apologize for my lack of posting previously. In my opinion, afro's wolf getting wolf'D thing is entirely possible. However, assuming wolves found nforcer to be a wolf for the other team, I still think it would be far more worthwile to take out a human. I hope voting isn't ending tonight, because nothing much has risen to my attention thus far.

**Tasselfoot** · 02-22-2005, 12:05 PM

Voting won't end until tomorrow night.

Afrobean · 02-22-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

Voting won't end until tomorrow night.

Thank goodness. I really don't want to put out a vote yet.

Thanks to those of you who see that the wolf wolfing a wolf idea is possible. It's not likely, but it's the only connection I can truly see for why nforcer would be dead.

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Originally Posted by mead1

However, assuming wolves found nforcer to be a wolf for the other team, I still think it would be far more worthwile to take out a human.

That's true. I still believe that the humans' best chance is for the wolves to basically take each other out, so it would be stupid for the wolves to work on killing each other first.

Also, I don't see why you guys are accusing people just because they know each other in real life. If it were me, I wouldn't kill my friends day 1. I'd probably try to put off killing them unless I absolutely needed to. Day 1 is when you should be killing people that give no leads. Perhaps that is specifically why nforcer was killed: to give absolutely no lead. Or maybe the wolves knew we would be curious of it and we'd read way too far into things and waste all our time.

02-21-2005, 05:26 PM	#21
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	I have no school XD But, I have no problem making it 48 hours. __________________

02-21-2005, 06:29 PM	#25
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	There could have been private IMs that gave away his wolfishness. I believe it was jTWG2 when Freak had a friend pegged as a wolf before night 1 even, because his friend acted that wolfy on AIM. __________________

02-21-2005, 06:52 PM	#28
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	I was just elaborating on Gamepro's idea. I think it's a good idea for all possibilities to be presented, even if they seem implausible at first. As for the convo involving TPS and nforcer: I was unaware of this. I can look through what I have logged though. Maybe I can find it. __________________

02-21-2005, 07:00 PM	#29
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	I just looked through what I have logged and I didn't see any conversing between TPS and nforcer. I do however have a nice conversation about KoL and a nice one about that stupid flash game saved. That chat would not stay on topic for anything before. __________________

02-21-2005, 07:26 PM	#32
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	On the other hand aperson, it could just mean that he was attempting to act dumb to NOT get killed early, be him green, blue, or red. With that said, what are Blah/Kilga's feelings about his death post? Too much info? I can't stress enough how death posts may contain ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME. Failure to comply with this WILL get you a 1-game ban, and may result in the council deciding to ban death messages altogether. __________________ RIP

02-21-2005, 06:32 PM	#26
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 33 Posts: 8,750	I have nothing to back up that theory, It was just a possibility.

02-21-2005, 09:31 PM	#33
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	I think he was saying he was acting dumb in the chat because he wanted to look like someone who wasn't particularly useful to the human cause, and thus was not a good choice for a wolfing. I know that if I was presented with any possibility of doing something that could extend my life span, I would try it no matter what role I was playing. But then, that's me and not nforcer - everyone knows that my typical goal is to make sure I stay alive above everyone else. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

02-22-2005, 10:15 AM	#34
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Hmm. No posts in 14 hours. Guess I have to spark some more talking. Kenzya Clearly this is obvious logical process, but nforcer, kenzya, and neon are all friends IRL. This vote could have gone to Neon for the exact same reasoning. It is likely that someone is framing those 2, but, I want people to start talking. Kenzya and Neon have both been very quiet. Perhaps this will get them talking. I'm sure it will get others to voice opinions as well. __________________ RIP

02-22-2005, 11:10 AM	#35
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	Sorry I havent posted yet, well I guess Ill fix that now . At this point, I sorta see aperson as a bit fishy by placing blame on enforcer so quickly. I think afro is just being a nub with this whole wolfing of a wolf business also. As of now, Tass is the only person with real logic. Id like to see what kenzya says in response. __________________

02-22-2005, 12:02 PM	#37
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	And, afro could be dead on... wolves from 1 team can wolf the wolves from the other team. You're the one who seems a but off the nub eyespew... although i'm willing to attribute it to not paying attention or misunderstanding. __________________ RIP

02-22-2005, 12:03 PM	#38
mead1 Cerebellumberjack Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On a boat Age: 34 Posts: 3,960	I apologize for my lack of posting previously. In my opinion, afro's wolf getting wolf'D thing is entirely possible. However, assuming wolves found nforcer to be a wolf for the other team, I still think it would be far more worthwile to take out a human. I hope voting isn't ending tonight, because nothing much has risen to my attention thus far.

02-22-2005, 12:05 PM	#39
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Voting won't end until tomorrow night. __________________ RIP

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