Question for those that use ddream

[choof]

Originally Posted by qqwref

Wow choof, I never knew a grown man could get so angry about what software someone uses to make stepfiles.

apparently you haven't seen lurker posts

[Silvuh]

As it's been said, ddream's UI is more intuitive, with the keyboard shortcuts and mouse functionality. I tidy up my BPMs before I send file, and I'd leave a note in the review asking the stepper to do so, too. It helps to keep a copy of the cleaned up BPMs open in another text file to paste back into the .sm after saving. The extra bytes don't matter when converted into an .ffr file, but for an SM pack submission, yeah, clean is nice.

For anyone who doesn't know, ddream stores beat locations on samples. So for the typical 44100 Hz .mp3, you'll get a nice constant BPM as long as it divides evenly into 2646000. For example, at 145 BPM, it has to choose between 18248 and 18249 samples per beat, thus alternating between 145.002192 and 144.994246 BPM (though ddream rounds to three decimal places).

2^4 * 3^3 * 5^3 * 7^2
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 12 14 15 16 18 20 21 24 25 27 28 30 35 36 40 42 45 48 49 50 54 56 60 63 70 72 75 80 84 90 98 100 105 108 112 120 125 126 135 140 144 147 150 168 175 180 189 196 200 210 216 225 240 245 250 252 270 280 294 300 315 336 350 360 375 378 392 400 420 432 441 450 490 500 504 525 540 560 588 600 630 675 700 720 735 750 756 784 840 875 882 900 945 980 1000

P.S. Middie, what problem are you having with copying and pasting in ddream? There's an option for switching between paste overwriting or merging. The keyboard shortcuts work like normal, except to copy from one file into another, you have to open the second file over the first: the clipboard data doesn't carry over between windows.

[hi19hi19]

Yo breaking news

DDReam has an option to save static BPM .sm files with one BPM
It's an option when you choose "Save As" and it looks like this:



wow

incredible

picture guide included so you can do it yourself

amazing


p.s. Silvuh's explanation of why you soemtimes get the weird fluctuating bpms and don't for other songs is really well explained, gj bro

[Wayward Vagabond]

Angri19

[Wafles]

There is literally no reason that the bpm flutter should be retained from ddream files. You can fix it in like 30s in notepad if you have bpm changes, or you can just save it as static bpm if it only has one bpm. DDream isnt the problem, lazy steppers are.

You know what else is annoying? SM Editor elitists.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by ilikexd

It just bugs me that people then complain about stepping too mush Sharpnel and Cornandbeans when they always have reliable BPM's (Cornandbeans usually goes with 180)

1. I fixed a typo for you. Cornandbeans is one word.

2. I'm also really bothered when I see someone call a chart "boring and generic." For starters, no file is unique anymore. There is no single thing that hasn't been done before on four key.

But if you're gonna hate on someone for stepping nothing but "generic" music options such as Sharpnel and Renard, you also need to be disgusted with simauthors whom use the same technique every single file or a large portion of every file.

Before I use this example I'm going to mention I use this only because it is the best available. Not because of a personal opinion. I may not like this person, ect but that's irrelevant to the point I am making.

Let us look at the best example (in my opinion) of "generic" simfile making. Icyworld. This one person is renowned as a jumpstream stepping master. (From what I gather.) He leads and organizes the "Nuclear Blast" packs which mostly consists of jumpstream files (assuming you knew this but on chance you're new and live under a rock, there you go.)

We're going to compare three (despite there being many more, but due to my lack of stepmania knowledge I don't know any other names off the top of my head) of his charts at specific times to denote how much he charts JS

We Luv Lama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdzt_cryf30&t=4m25s

Future Dominators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzUG4rAyG-U&t=0m13s

Ultra Beatdown Supreme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mmwmAt0mOQ

Like seriously if you're one of these "stop charting generic songs" people, and you play most of Icy's charts, you're a huge hypocrite.

Again I mean no ill-will toward you Icy, but you're just a great example. (And yes the fact I used what I think is Sharpnel songs and a Dragonforce is in fact intended irony because they're all generic hard song authors.)

Originally Posted by choof

I understand using ddream to step files with dynamic BPM, but I'm looking at a file right now that was very obviously stepped with ddream, is very obviously a generic newgrounds song, and very obviously is a static BPM.


STOP USING DDREAM TO STEP GENERIC TECHNO MUSIC.

Seriously, it legitimately angers me to play a cornandbeans file (yes, cnb is touring with excision and we're still stepping cnb like it's fucking 2009) where the BPM consistently drops down from 145 to 144.998 or some bull shit like that.



WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF USING A TOOL DESIGNED FOR DYNAMIC BPM TO STEP SHITTY MUSIC WITH CONSTANT BPM

You're bitching about something that's really just irrelevant. Just because one can drive a car that is a stick shift doesn't mean they may not choose to use an automatic and the same in reverse. It's called preference. You know, that thing you're trying to force that is yours onto others?

[kommisar]

how about stop using ddream all together for stepping

[GammaBlaster]

no

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by kommisar

how about stop using ddream all together for stepping

Get outta here old timer

[kommisar]

sm5 isn't old

[GammaBlaster]

I step to audio spikes

[hi19hi19]

There's a high point on the waveform, better put a 64th roll

[lurker]

attention you motherfucking idiots
when saving your fucking ddream stepfiles with no bpm changes, use save as type: stepmania/itg, single bpm
there is absolutely no problem with using ddream for generic techno files as long as you save them as single bpm or edit the .sm file manually
if you use a version of ddream that doesn't have this feature, what the fuck is wrong with you
holy fuck it's like everyone on both sides is retarded
in other words pat du supped me by like 30 posts

[lurker]

also prawnskunk has the best post in this thread

[lurker]

Originally Posted by kommisar

how about stop using ddream all together for stepping

Originally Posted by kommisar

sm5 isn't old

sm5's step editor does nothing new that is legitimately helpful to the average stepcharter and has broken ui in almost every version of sm5, unlike ddream

[lurker]

wrong board please move to critical thinking

[Izzy]

Or to the correct location. Stepmania.

I could of sworn that was choofs thing.

[Razor]

DDream vs. Stepmania editor thread #938238721298

[rCaliberGX]

in before the stepmania

[choof]

Originally Posted by XelNya

1. I fixed a typo for you. Cornandbeans is one word.

2. I'm also really bothered when I see someone call a chart "boring and generic." For starters, no file is unique anymore. There is no single thing that hasn't been done before on four key.

But if you're gonna hate on someone for stepping nothing but "generic" music options such as Sharpnel and Renard, you also need to be disgusted with simauthors whom use the same technique every single file or a large portion of every file.

Before I use this example I'm going to mention I use this only because it is the best available. Not because of a personal opinion. I may not like this person, ect but that's irrelevant to the point I am making.

Let us look at the best example (in my opinion) of "generic" simfile making. Icyworld. This one person is renowned as a jumpstream stepping master. (From what I gather.) He leads and organizes the "Nuclear Blast" packs which mostly consists of jumpstream files (assuming you knew this but on chance you're new and live under a rock, there you go.)

We're going to compare three (despite there being many more, but due to my lack of stepmania knowledge I don't know any other names off the top of my head) of his charts at specific times to denote how much he charts JS

We Luv Lama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdzt_cryf30&t=4m25s

Future Dominators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzUG4rAyG-U&t=0m13s

Ultra Beatdown Supreme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mmwmAt0mOQ

Like seriously if you're one of these "stop charting generic songs" people, and you play most of Icy's charts, you're a huge hypocrite.

Again I mean no ill-will toward you Icy, but you're just a great example. (And yes the fact I used what I think is Sharpnel songs and a Dragonforce is in fact intended irony because they're all generic hard song authors.)



You're bitching about something that's really just irrelevant. Just because one can drive a car that is a stick shift doesn't mean they may not choose to use an automatic and the same in reverse. It's called preference. You know, that thing you're trying to force that is yours onto others?

nice post dicklord