Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/5/14] - Page 15

**Xiz** · 06-21-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Psittacosis

It's not visually lagging at all. It doesn't happen in 31 FPS. In editor mode, it only occasionally doesn't register that I'm hitting keys. It's, like, one out of 100 arrows or so. I'm using Flash 11.

I am having the same issue. Well, I am noticing in editor mode when I hit quads, they might turn into staircases... if ANYONE else is having the same issue let me know. I hope im not the only one.

**popsicle_3000** · 06-22-2013, 01:46 AM

rates work on mp fyi

**Doug31** · 06-22-2013, 04:53 PM

Ugh, the timing works differently if you increase the framerate and I find this very annoying to the point where I'm going to have to use a lower framerate if I play a very hard song in the tourney.

Here's how it works: In 30 fps, if you push a button where it could hit 2 arrows, it'll give you a perfect if one of them in in the perfect window, and if not, it'll seemingly still hit the closest one at least, with late winning the tiebreaker.

In 120 fps, it always hits the latest note that's within the window that can currently be hit, so by playing really hard songs way get far more goods and far fewer perfects. An advantage in trying to get combo but a disadvantage in terms of raw score.

The difference should be an option available in any fps or just returned back to making it all work how it did in 30 fps before.

**HalfStep** · 06-22-2013, 05:00 PM

Just tested this Doug, you're right. How did no one notice this until now..
(This shouldn't be a raw score advantage, since a 2 goods are better than a perfect and a miss, but still there shouldn't be any differences between 60fps and 30fps)

**Doug31** · 06-22-2013, 11:01 PM

But if you mash vrofl, you get just piles of goods instead of piles of perfects, and you only hit a few more notes. So if the song is too much too fast for you, it is a disadvantage.

**arcnmx** · 06-23-2013, 04:14 AM

Minor update just in time for the tourny, I wanted to get the mp mask option in. There are also a few minor changes that don't really merit any mention so yeah... Now sleep and hopefully I'll be up in time :/

06/23/13
• Multiplayer mask option to hide opponent's judge accuracy popups
• Fix a bug that punished mashing scores with high FPS

**Doug31** · 06-23-2013, 07:09 AM

Sweet thanks a lot, it does appear to be fixed now. The previous problem I mentioned is still there though. I know I didn't give a good description of it. Here's a better one. It seems that on certain songs, seemingly only on ones that start rather quickly, with increase fps, the notes don't move at the right rate near the beginning. And it's a bigger problem the higher the fps. Here's an example of it:

**~Zeta~** · 06-23-2013, 07:13 AM

He already knows about it. It's been happening for a while now and on more than one song.

**popsicle_3000** · 06-24-2013, 01:18 AM

So in this case, clicking where the arrow points does not select the mp window. it clicks on the 'main' button behind it. so in a sense i guess the mp windows are transparent...

**Xiz** · 06-24-2013, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by popsicle_3000

So in this case, clicking where the arrow points does not select the mp window. it clicks on the 'main' button behind it. so in a sense i guess the mp windows are transparent...

^ In relation to this, if you put the window completely on the buttons behind it, you become unable to move the window, forcing one to close the client and re-open it. It happened to me like 4 times today haha

**arcnmx** · 06-24-2013, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Xiz

^ In relation to this, if you put the window completely on the buttons behind it, you become unable to move the window, forcing one to close the client and re-open it. It happened to me like 4 times today haha

You can still drag it from the space in between the buttons though (as long as you look for the white lines of the buttons) :P

But yeah, this has been an issue for a while. MP interface problems like this are being ignored since the whole thing will be scrapped and replaced with something better soon.

**Xiz** · 06-24-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by arcnmx

You can still drag it from the space in between the buttons though (as long as you look for the white lines of the buttons) :P

But yeah, this has been an issue for a while. MP interface problems like this are being ignored since the whole thing will be scrapped and replaced with something better soon.

oooOOOooo Hype!

**popsicle_3000** · 06-24-2013, 11:46 PM

suggestion: you know how on the results window, you can click stepartist or song artist and it brings you to the page?
would it be possible when you click on song name to be brought to that song's lvl page? i find i often would like a quick link like that

**arcnmx** · 06-25-2013, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by popsicle_3000

suggestion: you know how on the results window, you can click stepartist or song artist and it brings you to the page?
would it be possible when you click on song name to be brought to that song's lvl page? i find i often would like a quick link like that

Hm not a bad idea, I can certainly do that. May I ask why exactly you would like to visit the page? Is there some info you feel is missing from the results screen? (well, besides highscore list since there's a button for that but it just doesn't do anything yet)

cedolad · 06-25-2013, 12:08 AM

I think he means if you can just link to that page you wouldn't need the other links in the results page.

Or maybe just the auto bot play-through. Don't have that in engine...yet.

**sticklydude** · 06-25-2013, 12:10 AM

I don't know if anyone pointed it out, but going into editor from results then closing takes you back to song select.

**Xiz** · 06-25-2013, 12:12 AM

In regards to the multiplayer being 'redone' and whatnot... make the size for each window resizable? >.> It would be nice to read everything at once without multiple clients / moving things around.

(Pssst...) Also put in a feature where you can search by Simfile Author / Song Author. I'd love to one day search all Bmah or all Hi19 files or something and do a playlist of only their files or something. -shrug-

**popsicle_3000** · 06-25-2013, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcnmx

Hm not a bad idea, I can certainly do that. May I ask why exactly you would like to visit the page? Is there some info you feel is missing from the results screen? (well, besides highscore list since there's a button for that but it just doesn't do anything yet)

I like seeing the 200 high scores usually. Other times for NPS graph, or AAA/FC count

cedolad · 06-25-2013, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by popsicle_3000

I like seeing the 200 high scores usually. Other times for NPS graph, or AAA/FC count

This is really useful, the nps graph and the AAA/FC count. Would be interesting to see that in the results page... if you could fit it haha

But really, how easy or hard would it be to have the auto-bot feature in game? I can see this being a nice feature with rates and isolation.

Psittacosis · 06-25-2013, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz

(Pssst...) Also put in a feature where you can search by Simfile Author / Song Author. I'd love to one day search all Bmah or all Hi19 files or something and do a playlist of only their files or something. -shrug-

I fully support this.

06-22-2013, 04:53 PM	#283
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/18/13] Ugh, the timing works differently if you increase the framerate and I find this very annoying to the point where I'm going to have to use a lower framerate if I play a very hard song in the tourney. Here's how it works: In 30 fps, if you push a button where it could hit 2 arrows, it'll give you a perfect if one of them in in the perfect window, and if not, it'll seemingly still hit the closest one at least, with late winning the tiebreaker. In 120 fps, it always hits the latest note that's within the window that can currently be hit, so by playing really hard songs way get far more goods and far fewer perfects. An advantage in trying to get combo but a disadvantage in terms of raw score. The difference should be an option available in any fps or just returned back to making it all work how it did in 30 fps before. __________________

06-22-2013, 05:00 PM	#284
HalfStep Can't AAA anything Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,391	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/18/13] Just tested this Doug, you're right. How did no one notice this until now.. (This shouldn't be a raw score advantage, since a 2 goods are better than a perfect and a miss, but still there shouldn't be any differences between 60fps and 30fps) __________________ 4th Official Tournament - D1 34th Place 5th Official Tournament - D3 Last Place 8th Official Tournament - D3 3rd Place TSR's Summer Golf Tournament - D4 2nd Place FFR Multiplayer Tournament 2013 - D5 12th Place YoshL's Tournament of Mediocrity - 2nd Place TSR's Rates Tournament - Standard 2nd Place DRG's Team Tournament - Intermediate 1st Place 9th Official FFR Tournament - D5 35th Place Last edited by HalfStep; 06-22-2013 at 05:02 PM..

06-22-2013, 11:01 PM	#285
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/18/13] But if you mash vrofl, you get just piles of goods instead of piles of perfects, and you only hit a few more notes. So if the song is too much too fast for you, it is a disadvantage. __________________

06-23-2013, 04:14 AM	#286
arcnmx nanodesu~ Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 503	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/23/13] Minor update just in time for the tourny, I wanted to get the mp mask option in. There are also a few minor changes that don't really merit any mention so yeah... Now sleep and hopefully I'll be up in time :/ 06/23/13 • Multiplayer mask option to hide opponent's judge accuracy popups • Fix a bug that punished mashing scores with high FPS __________________ FMO AAAs (1): Within Life :: FGO AAAs (1): Einstein-Rosen Bridge

06-23-2013, 07:09 AM	#287
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/23/13] Sweet thanks a lot, it does appear to be fixed now. The previous problem I mentioned is still there though. I know I didn't give a good description of it. Here's a better one. It seems that on certain songs, seemingly only on ones that start rather quickly, with increase fps, the notes don't move at the right rate near the beginning. And it's a bigger problem the higher the fps. Here's an example of it: __________________

06-23-2013, 07:13 AM	#288
~Zeta~ Flag Master Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Pole Age: 31 Posts: 2,156	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/23/13] He already knows about it. It's been happening for a while now and on more than one song.

06-25-2013, 12:08 AM	#295
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/23/13] I think he means if you can just link to that page you wouldn't need the other links in the results page. Or maybe just the auto bot play-through. Don't have that in engine...yet. __________________

06-25-2013, 12:10 AM	#296
sticklydude r.i.p. tiny hippo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far away from you, FL Age: 30 Posts: 2,165	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/23/13] I don't know if anyone pointed it out, but going into editor from results then closing takes you back to song select.

06-25-2013, 12:12 AM	#297
Xiz TWG Chaos Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cali4nia Age: 32 Posts: 3,399	Re: Beta Engine: R^3 [Updated 6/23/13] In regards to the multiplayer being 'redone' and whatnot... make the size for each window resizable? >.> It would be nice to read everything at once without multiple clients / moving things around. (Pssst...) Also put in a feature where you can search by Simfile Author / Song Author. I'd love to one day search all Bmah or all Hi19 files or something and do a playlist of only their files or something. -shrug- __________________

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