TWG XXIII: Assault on France! Victor E. to Humans! - Page 14

**Tasselfoot** · 11-10-2005, 07:33 PM

Also nforcer... there are 9 of us left, how about you not jump to quick votes on stupid evidence and wait for eb to comment.

nforcer06164 · 11-10-2005, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nforcer06164

Something tells me the kill was sent in early... For reasons I've previously stated all around the thread and this, I'll go with my next suspect right off the bat. Tass.

Way to read. I was good and ready to vote. eb will post. I don't need him to post so I can make my vote. I've played by my rules and it's worked pretty well so far.

What happened to you this game, Tass? You haven't been very helpful. You've gotten pretty pissed off at a little accusation. it's not like you. TPS helped when he said you "weren't a wolf," and then Talisman informed me that he was suspicious of you. Like he and I discussed... last minute separation? I think so. My vote was not made without thought, Tass, and I don't need anybody else how to tell me how to play, even if eb is the core of the human team.

**FishFishRevolution** · 11-10-2005, 08:06 PM

^.^ Rofl zombie-fish

All they found was an ascii shark

Code:


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     _.--'  b)                       ``--...____.'   .'
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Fish  `---......____...---`.___.'----... .'         `.;
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Hope that will help. Good luck.

mead1 · 11-10-2005, 08:29 PM

People still alive.

Tasselfoot
nickadeemus
nforcer06164
Afrobean
talisman
lightdarkness
GuidoHunter
HansSky
evilbutterfly

Edited due to Tass' name being incorrect. Thanks Qreepy.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-10-2005, 08:30 PM

How about this nforcer... I don't give a shit with TPS and if I were a wolf with him, don't you think I'd have specifically told him to SHUT HIS MOUTH after he got 4+ votes? Pretty sure I would have... because he ALWAYS runs his mouth and not only gets himself into trouble, but gets others (me in this instance) in trouble.

I'd have to be the dumbest fucking idiot in the world to let TPS run wild if we were working together. Which makes me believe that either 1. he did it on purpose to fuck me after what happened in twg20 (think that was the game I pulled fake seer that got him lynched the next day), 2. We're both human, and he was saying what he actually thought, which USUALLY gets him AND others in trouble.

Other than that, there is absolutely no way I can defend myself against TPS' claims. When I have access to my computer (tomorrow night, I hope) I will post every log I had with TPS since this game started. Perhaps that will help clear things up with y'all that he and I were NOT working together. I talked to him alot more than I talked to my own partner... although alot of it is about football.

Still waiting, not only for eb to post, but to speak to him privately. I'm sure he has questions for me, although he SHOULD have questions for everyone else too.

Afrobean · 11-10-2005, 08:31 PM

Honestly, after rethinking things, I think Tass's partner team should go first.

Tass is the guy who always is finding cheap ways of winning. Why would he be the one to tell mead to remove the thing which made a human victory unstoppable? That would be something eb would do as a human, but Tass would never do that.

Combine this with his "hans and afro might still be wolves" and his quick tacked on "defense" (I say this because it wasn't truly a defense, it was just a "i dunt think tps r wofl") of Tps(who I'm certain was a wolf) and you got some hot shit there.

Afrobean · 11-10-2005, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

How about this nforcer... I don't give a (#$% with TPS and if I were a wolf with him, don't you think I'd have specifically told him to SHUT HIS MOUTH after he got 4+ votes? Pretty sure I would have... because he ALWAYS runs his mouth and not only gets himself into trouble, but gets others (me in this instance) in trouble.

Dude, you weren't even online when he racked up all his votes. Even if you wanted to, you couldn't have done anything.

**talisman** · 11-10-2005, 08:43 PM

The two perspectives, at the end of the day:

Tps7910 (5:00:59 PM): I'm one from insta.
Tps7910 (5:01:10 PM):

stressreliefball (5:01:12 PM): that appears to be the case
Tps7910 (5:01:27 PM): What day is it?
stressreliefball (5:01:33 PM): thursday
Tps7910 (5:01:34 PM): 3. Ah, right on time.
stressreliefball (5:01:36 PM): day thee
Tps7910 (5:02:12 PM): I don't think a justifiable reason to kill me is acting like a jack ass in the chat.
stressreliefball (5:02:46 PM): well talk alternatives to me then
stressreliefball (5:02:53 PM): who do you think the three are?
Tps7910 (5:03:22 PM): Tass LD and Nick
stressreliefball (5:03:42 PM): possible
Tps7910 (5:03:54 PM): I don't like his defense of me.
Tps7910 (5:03:59 PM): It's very slight.
Tps7910 (5:04:07 PM): Not sure if Tass would try that as a wolf.
stressreliefball (5:04:22 PM): so among tass ld and nick
Tps7910 (5:04:23 PM): LD has disappeared since I posted about him.
stressreliefball (5:04:28 PM): who's the pair and who's the single
Tps7910 (5:04:34 PM): Tass/LD Nick
Tps7910 (5:04:41 PM): Though, I'm not sure on Nick.

WhorliChan (5:59:54 PM): what was the question again? i was too busy thinking about all this in my head and didn't pay attention to what you wrote.
stressreliefball (6:00:05 PM): the question was who the last three are
stressreliefball (6:00:12 PM): in terms of names, not roles
WhorliChan (6:00:21 PM): last 3 wolves?
stressreliefball (6:00:24 PM): right
WhorliChan (6:01:10 PM): *sigh*... from afro/hans, guido, talisman, fish, nick, tps, ld, nforcer
stressreliefball (6:01:26 PM): you seem to have ruled out afro/hans and tps already
stressreliefball (6:02:03 PM): just based on what you said in the thread, I don't want to put words in your mouth
WhorliChan (6:02:04 PM): ld/nforcer and guido. shaky at best.

Afrobean · 11-10-2005, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mead1

People still alive.

Tasselwolf
nickadeemus
nforcer06164
Afrobean
talisman
lightdarkness
GuidoHunter
HansSky
evilbutterfly

Haha! I can't believe I didn't see that earlier.

Taken from Qreepy's death post, right?

**talisman** · 11-10-2005, 10:19 PM

holy shit

edit: yeah mead had to have copied that from qreepy.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-10-2005, 10:36 PM

Afro: no, I was not around when he racked his votes... but you really believe I wouldn't have said something to him earlier? Seriously, I read that chat log, and he was down right retarded. I still don't think he was a wolf, just TPS being TPS getting caught up in a moment and losing himself, which turns into all of you jumping him and potentially costing the game as now you're going after me BECAUSE of what TPS said or didn't say.

Afro: You're right... I am always finding cheap ways to win. I explained my reasoning to Talisman. Re-read the log if you want to read it again. Your comments on it are therefore meaningless.

I'm STILL waiting on eb.

EDIT: Going to bed, accidentially posted it under Whorli's name. If another mod could delete her post, I'd appreciate it. Don't want to do it myself in case anyone thinks I edited something between the two posts or what not.

LD deleted post. Verified authenticity of two posts

mead1 · 11-11-2005, 04:55 AM

o shi guys, yeah, copied from Qreepy's post.

Afrobean · 11-11-2005, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

Afro: You're right... I am always finding cheap ways to win. I explained my reasoning to Talisman. Re-read the log if you want to read it again. Your comments on it are therefore meaningless.

I don't see how that conversation does anything. The fact remains that you're ALWAYS in favor of a game stacked in the humans favor so long as you're human. Getting something unfair like that removed is not something I could ever see you doing if you were human.

**talisman** · 11-11-2005, 09:25 AM

I disagree... I can see him correcting that I just don't see him trying to pretend like he was semi-upset that it (the day five autopsy) got removed. He says he was afraid of getting lynched, but that seems to me to be a very untass-like kind of fear. If he had just said "yeah I did it, I noticed it was a balance error" there's no way anyone could have realistically used that as the basis of their vote without getting shot down. Tass is already known for his ability to spot balance errors, it wouldn't have seemed out of the ordinary.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-11-2005, 09:48 AM

overcautious at the time... *shrugs* either way, what Talisman said is pretty much what happened. Noticed the error in something I created, pointed it out to mead... then thought that this exact situation COULD arise on day 1, so I made the distancing comment.

Simple as that.

Afrobean · 11-11-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talisman

Tass is already known for his ability to spot balance errors, it wouldn't have seemed out of the ordinary.

He's known moreover for his exploiting of balance errors than his fixing of balance errors. Sure, he's excellent at spotting balance errors, but he's also the type to make use of balance errors if they're in his favor.

I think I've put it off long enough. Tass.

EDIT: didn't copy the whole quote I meant to the first time.

nforcer06164 · 11-11-2005, 03:43 PM

Guys, if we're right, the mimes should be feeling just like this poor mime...

Sorry, I just got an e-mail with this political cartoon, and it fit perfectly somehow.

By the way, anybody know where eb is? I'd like to hear from him.

evilbutterfly · 11-11-2005, 09:01 PM

Last night was my sister's 21st birthday. These days, birthday parties in my family = gettin' crunk. I only just now got back to my dorm.

Anywhoooo, I haven't had time to discuss anything with anybody or to really think much about it, but I'm confused as to what we'll do right now. We'll see.....

**Tasselfoot** · 11-12-2005, 12:38 AM

For the record, I am now in LA and will be AFK for almost all of tomorrow. Aka... I won't be able to defend myself.

So, I'd greatly appreciate the ability to defend myself before getting lynched, if at all possible. I'm 100% sure that if I am around, I can make my case well enough to prove that I am not a wolf, and should not be lynched.

At worst, clearly eb is the lynchpin (pardon the pun), and as such, I MUST talk to him. For now, I go to bed. I will bug eb as much as possible to talk to him before I am away tomorrow. I should have my AIM up even when I'm away, and I'll have my away message adjusted accordingly.

**talisman** · 11-12-2005, 12:48 AM

why so defensively minded? what are your thoughts, accusations, suspicions, etc?

11-10-2005, 07:33 PM	#261
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Also nforcer... there are 9 of us left, how about you not jump to quick votes on stupid evidence and wait for eb to comment. __________________ RIP

11-10-2005, 08:06 PM	#263
FishFishRevolution GotR Creator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vi sitter här i venten Current Band: The National Age: 36 Posts: 7,251	^.^ Rofl zombie-fish All they found was an ascii shark Code: __ o /' ) /' ( , __/' ) .' `; o _.-~~~~' ``---..__ .' ; _.--' b) ``--...____.' .' ( _. )). `-._ < `\\|\\|\\|\\|)-.....___.- `-. __...--'-.'. Fish `---......____...---`.___.'----... .' `.; `-` ` Hope that will help. Good luck. __________________

11-10-2005, 08:30 PM	#265
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	How about this nforcer... I don't give a shit with TPS and if I were a wolf with him, don't you think I'd have specifically told him to SHUT HIS MOUTH after he got 4+ votes? Pretty sure I would have... because he ALWAYS runs his mouth and not only gets himself into trouble, but gets others (me in this instance) in trouble. I'd have to be the dumbest fucking idiot in the world to let TPS run wild if we were working together. Which makes me believe that either 1. he did it on purpose to fuck me after what happened in twg20 (think that was the game I pulled fake seer that got him lynched the next day), 2. We're both human, and he was saying what he actually thought, which USUALLY gets him AND others in trouble. Other than that, there is absolutely no way I can defend myself against TPS' claims. When I have access to my computer (tomorrow night, I hope) I will post every log I had with TPS since this game started. Perhaps that will help clear things up with y'all that he and I were NOT working together. I talked to him alot more than I talked to my own partner... although alot of it is about football. Still waiting, not only for eb to post, but to speak to him privately. I'm sure he has questions for me, although he SHOULD have questions for everyone else too. __________________ RIP

11-10-2005, 08:31 PM	#266
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Honestly, after rethinking things, I think Tass's partner team should go first. Tass is the guy who always is finding cheap ways of winning. Why would he be the one to tell mead to remove the thing which made a human victory unstoppable? That would be something eb would do as a human, but Tass would never do that. Combine this with his "hans and afro might still be wolves" and his quick tacked on "defense" (I say this because it wasn't truly a defense, it was just a "i dunt think tps r wofl") of Tps(who I'm certain was a wolf) and you got some hot shit there. __________________

11-10-2005, 10:36 PM	#271
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Afro: no, I was not around when he racked his votes... but you really believe I wouldn't have said something to him earlier? Seriously, I read that chat log, and he was down right retarded. I still don't think he was a wolf, just TPS being TPS getting caught up in a moment and losing himself, which turns into all of you jumping him and potentially costing the game as now you're going after me BECAUSE of what TPS said or didn't say. Afro: You're right... I am always finding cheap ways to win. I explained my reasoning to Talisman. Re-read the log if you want to read it again. Your comments on it are therefore meaningless. I'm STILL waiting on eb. EDIT: Going to bed, accidentially posted it under Whorli's name. If another mod could delete her post, I'd appreciate it. Don't want to do it myself in case anyone thinks I edited something between the two posts or what not. LD deleted post. Verified authenticity of two posts __________________ RIP

11-10-2005, 08:29 PM	#264
mead1 Cerebellumberjack Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On a boat Age: 33 Posts: 3,960	People still alive. Tasselfoot nickadeemus nforcer06164 Afrobean talisman lightdarkness GuidoHunter HansSky evilbutterfly Edited due to Tass' name being incorrect. Thanks Qreepy.

11-10-2005, 10:19 PM	#270
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	holy shit edit: yeah mead had to have copied that from qreepy.

11-11-2005, 04:55 AM	#272
mead1 Cerebellumberjack Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On a boat Age: 33 Posts: 3,960	o shi guys, yeah, copied from Qreepy's post.

11-11-2005, 09:25 AM	#274
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	I disagree... I can see him correcting that I just don't see him trying to pretend like he was semi-upset that it (the day five autopsy) got removed. He says he was afraid of getting lynched, but that seems to me to be a very untass-like kind of fear. If he had just said "yeah I did it, I noticed it was a balance error" there's no way anyone could have realistically used that as the basis of their vote without getting shot down. Tass is already known for his ability to spot balance errors, it wouldn't have seemed out of the ordinary.

11-11-2005, 09:48 AM	#275
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	overcautious at the time... shrugs either way, what Talisman said is pretty much what happened. Noticed the error in something I created, pointed it out to mead... then thought that this exact situation COULD arise on day 1, so I made the distancing comment. Simple as that. __________________ RIP

11-11-2005, 09:01 PM	#278
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 37 Posts: 5,784	Last night was my sister's 21st birthday. These days, birthday parties in my family = gettin' crunk. I only just now got back to my dorm. Anywhoooo, I haven't had time to discuss anything with anybody or to really think much about it, but I'm confused as to what we'll do right now. We'll see..... __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

11-12-2005, 12:38 AM	#279
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	For the record, I am now in LA and will be AFK for almost all of tomorrow. Aka... I won't be able to defend myself. So, I'd greatly appreciate the ability to defend myself before getting lynched, if at all possible. I'm 100% sure that if I am around, I can make my case well enough to prove that I am not a wolf, and should not be lynched. At worst, clearly eb is the lynchpin (pardon the pun), and as such, I MUST talk to him. For now, I go to bed. I will bug eb as much as possible to talk to him before I am away tomorrow. I should have my AIM up even when I'm away, and I'll have my away message adjusted accordingly. __________________ RIP

11-12-2005, 12:48 AM	#280
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	why so defensively minded? what are your thoughts, accusations, suspicions, etc?

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