[NEWS] Japan Earthquake/Tsunami/Nuclear Crisis 2011 - Page 14

**Nyokou** · 03-13-2011, 08:36 PM

Or people just really bad at their jobs.

Unless you're talking about the intensity of the earthquakes that led up to the big one.

I was talking about initial reports of the big one. One source was saying 9.0, then they changed it to 8.9, but it was really 9.0? :z

who_cares973 · 03-13-2011, 08:37 PM

i dont get what you're trying to say mans0n

**bmah** · 03-13-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mans0n

Which shows how much we really know about earthquakes and their strength and intensity.

No, rather seismic assessments isn't a matter of obtaining accurate values immediately. It takes at least three surrounding locations to estimate the magnitude of an earthquake. Seismicities can be determined fairly well. What seismologists cannot estimate with accuracy, however, is when an earthquake will occur. And of course, that's what everyone wants to know.

Makes you wonder why people would prefer to build their houses right under the San Andreas fault, all for a nice ocean view and climate.

**Mans0n** · 03-13-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bmah

No, rather seismic assessments isn't a matter of obtaining accurate values immediately. It takes at least three surrounding locations to estimate the magnitude of an earthquake. Seismicities can be determined fairly well. Makes you wonder why people would like prefer the nice ocean view in light of building their houses right under the San Andreas fault.

yeah i knew about that first part, and yeah I live in central california so I really hope not.

And wc What i was meant was, it seems like they can't accurately determine the intensity/strength very well when the go from 7.4 to 7.9 to 8.4 to 8.9 now to 9.0.

Izzy · 03-13-2011, 09:19 PM

I thought those scales were based on something stupid like the destruction caused afterward, which is rather arbitrary.

**Mans0n** · 03-13-2011, 09:20 PM

I thought the richter scale was the common method used.. lol. And there was another one but i can't remember the name. Mercalli scale maybe?

**bmah** · 03-13-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzy

I thought those scales were based on something stupid like the destruction caused afterward, which is rather arbitrary.

You're mixing up the Richter scale, which measures earthquake magnitude (wave seismicity), with the Mercalli scale, which measures the earthquake's intensity - the parameter being amount of destruction.

MrGiggles · 03-13-2011, 09:45 PM

The Richter scale isn't even used anymore, they use the moment magnitude scale, both of which measure earthquakes in terms of energy released.

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And wc What i was meant was, it seems like they can't accurately determine the intensity/strength very well when the go from 7.4 to 7.9 to 8.4 to 8.9 now to 9.0.

I imagine it wouldn't be uncommon to revise the magnitude of a major earthquake like this several times, especially with main shock redesignations like in this case.

DotKritic · 03-13-2011, 09:56 PM

Just call it a 8.95 earthquake.

edit: Another explosion. How funny when they compare the nuclear explosion to the bombing they received from the U.S. in WWII.

LJRoX · 03-13-2011, 10:10 PM

Well yeah, a nuclear explosion is equivalent to a nuclear bomb exploding... both are exploding and releasing two of what are really dangerous airborne: cesium and iodine (perhaps strontium, but not too sure)

I don't get how that's funny in anyway.

**DossarLX ODI** · 03-13-2011, 10:12 PM

A few pages ago it's said that a "nuclear explosion" is a physical impossibility from a nuclear power plant.

I'm confused

**ichliebekase** · 03-13-2011, 10:13 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/...earthquake_118

In the article: they're reporting the possibility of a second tsunami. How much more are they expected to handle? Not to sound like an ass, but seems like some greater force really wants to wipe Japan off the face of the earth

I may have missed it, but have there been any reports of evacuation yet? Already thousands of lives lost, if this continues, it could go to millions..

~kitty~ · 03-13-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

A few pages ago it's said that a "nuclear explosion" is a physical impossibility from a nuclear power plant.

I'm confused

I was thinking the exact same thing you were.

EDIT: A greater force? I doubt that, if there were greater forces that wanted to eliminate certain nations, our nation would have experienced more than it has for its international relations problems. Also, the reason you probably feel that way is because you want a rationalization for all that is going on, and all the misfortunes happening consecutively may appear like it's unexplainable? I don't know.

**ichliebekase** · 03-13-2011, 10:37 PM

Greater force meaning God or Mother Nature. Basically a figure of speech.

**dag12** · 03-13-2011, 10:40 PM

Volcano now, apparently.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl..._boulders.html
Volcanic activity, earthquakes - they all have related causes.

LJRoX · 03-13-2011, 11:03 PM

I'm watching the news and the guy said it was a hydrogen explosion that happened.. not sure whether it was the first or the third reactor.

**dag12** · 03-13-2011, 11:05 PM

It was the third, I think.
The first one is... relatively safe? Now

MrGiggles · 03-13-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LJRoX

Well yeah, a nuclear explosion is equivalent to a nuclear bomb exploding... both are exploding and releasing two of what are really dangerous airborne: cesium and iodine (perhaps strontium, but not too sure)

I don't get how that's funny in anyway.

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Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

A few pages ago it's said that a "nuclear explosion" is a physical impossibility from a nuclear power plant.

I'm confused

The explosions are likely being caused by venting hydrogen and oxygen mixing together and being ignited, or melting fuel coming into contact with water. There's nothing nuclear about them.

~kitty~ · 03-13-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGiggles

The explosions are likely being caused by venting hydrogen and oxygen mixing together and being ignited, or melting fuel coming into contact with water. There's nothing nuclear about them.

What about the post saying that any form of explosion wasn't really possible? Was that a not very well researched post?

MrGiggles · 03-13-2011, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ~kitty~

What about the post saying that any form of explosion wasn't really possible? Was that a not very well researched post?

These two?

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Originally Posted by darkshark

It's pretty much impossible for a nuclear plant to explode as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by Reach

You're right. It's actually a physical impossibility for the plant to explode (At least, a nuclear explosion. You could still blow the plant up or something like that, obviously lol). .

I think they were both referring to a nuclear explosion rather than a conventional explosion.

03-13-2011, 08:36 PM	#261
Nyokou （￣ー￣） Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: United States Age: 32 Posts: 4,246	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan Or people just really bad at their jobs. Unless you're talking about the intensity of the earthquakes that led up to the big one. I was talking about initial reports of the big one. One source was saying 9.0, then they changed it to 8.9, but it was really 9.0? :z __________________ Twitter \| Instagram \| Snapchat: Nyokou

03-13-2011, 08:37 PM	#262
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan i dont get what you're trying to say mans0n __________________

03-13-2011, 09:19 PM	#265
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 34 Posts: 9,192	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan I thought those scales were based on something stupid like the destruction caused afterward, which is rather arbitrary.

03-13-2011, 09:20 PM	#266
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan I thought the richter scale was the common method used.. lol. And there was another one but i can't remember the name. Mercalli scale maybe? __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

03-13-2011, 09:56 PM	#269
DotKritic Forum User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Age: 19 Posts: 2,964	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan Just call it a 8.95 earthquake. edit: Another explosion. How funny when they compare the nuclear explosion to the bombing they received from the U.S. in WWII. __________________ FFR Member Since December 17th, 2004 Last edited by DotKritic; 03-13-2011 at 10:01 PM..

03-13-2011, 10:10 PM	#270
LJRoX Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 31 Posts: 2,762	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan Well yeah, a nuclear explosion is equivalent to a nuclear bomb exploding... both are exploding and releasing two of what are really dangerous airborne: cesium and iodine (perhaps strontium, but not too sure) I don't get how that's funny in anyway.

03-13-2011, 10:13 PM	#272
ichliebekase FFR Simfile Author Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,213	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/...earthquake_118 In the article: they're reporting the possibility of a second tsunami. How much more are they expected to handle? Not to sound like an ass, but seems like some greater force really wants to wipe Japan off the face of the earth I may have missed it, but have there been any reports of evacuation yet? Already thousands of lives lost, if this continues, it could go to millions.. __________________ Glorious Morning - Misc, level 48 We Will Fly - Dance 2, level 53 =.The Ocean.= - Dance 2, level 56, collab with krunkykai22 Garden Party - Dance, level 38

03-13-2011, 10:37 PM	#274
ichliebekase FFR Simfile Author Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,213	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan Greater force meaning God or Mother Nature. Basically a figure of speech. __________________ Glorious Morning - Misc, level 48 We Will Fly - Dance 2, level 53 =.The Ocean.= - Dance 2, level 56, collab with krunkykai22 Garden Party - Dance, level 38

03-13-2011, 10:40 PM	#275
dag12 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 468	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan Volcano now, apparently. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl..._boulders.html Volcanic activity, earthquakes - they all have related causes. Last edited by dag12; 03-13-2011 at 10:44 PM..

03-13-2011, 11:03 PM	#276
LJRoX Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 31 Posts: 2,762	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan I'm watching the news and the guy said it was a hydrogen explosion that happened.. not sure whether it was the first or the third reactor.

03-13-2011, 11:05 PM	#277
dag12 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 468	Re: Massive 8.9-magnitude quake hits Japan It was the third, I think. The first one is... relatively safe? Now

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